I really don't care about win8, mainly because I don't use it. I won't use it until I think it's not going to crash my system and burn up my hardware. I also don't care about version 2 of Tradewars. Advanced tactic? Bug? ROFL It's called Tradewars. You know the game we've been playing for 15 years without any help from the owner of this game? All you have done with v2 is make 1:1 combat impossible. You haven't made a revision, you've made a completely different game. Feel free to play it if you want to, but don't be trying to pawn it off on the players that actually want to play a real game of Tradewars. You call it intentional, and if so, JP lied to this entire forum. He clearly stated that there would be no changes that weren't "optional". This is a major change, and it ISN'T optional...
I feel you and JP have really messed up this time. Enjoy a game that no one will be playing.

What parallel universe are you posting from? Over here, I don't think I've ever heard of a beta tester being compensated, and certainly not for a game. Most beta testers are thrilled to have the privilege of using the software.

This isn't something that JP does differently. GMail was in beta for years after its public release. Cruncher is quite right about Microsoft and other commercial software developers foisting betas on their paying customers. And perhaps you've forgotten that the door version never made it out of beta. 2002v2b5 was the last. So if you're dissing JP, you're dissing GM. Why don't you go play Pong?

Feel free to beta test for EIS all you want to. I personally don't want to, and that's my privilage to NOT do so. I don't like the changes in v2, so the players that do want to play it can beta test it. Pretty simple don't you think? ROFL

OK, now that we've established that you are indeed a bug user, let's examine why.

Until T0yman and I demonstrated to JP on the beta server the spam event that happens when two players are engaged in 1-1 combat, JP did not know this behavior existed. It was not the intent of the programmer, in his tests 1-1 combat worked as it should, and now does in v2. The reason why JP didn't see this before was because he was battling against himself in his tests. Put two different players with different lag together and the first one to trigger the attack spams the other. So, someone in a much weaker ship can actually escape a stronger attacker... with the bug.

JP has let a lot of bugs become "features" at the requests of players, this one was his call, and he decided to fix the bug rather than put it on a toggle. I support his decision.

But, as for being "paid" for beta testing, I have been compensated. With software (TWGS), with discounted subscriptions (GoToAssist), and with access to pre-release beta lessons (CodeAcademy).

Yet this was a change that IS NOT optional. So JP just flat out lied to everyone in this forum. He actually made it impossible to kill anyone in 1:1 combat without using an ship or planet IG. So basically you made planets with IG's even MORE powerful. Don't be surprised when people find this out and the real Tradewars players go back to playing v1.03.
I'll also say it again. It's NOT my responsibility to debug, beta test, or even report bugs to EIS. If you feel you have been compensated for your efforts, then by all means feel free to do so. I on the other hand chose NOT to.
Good luck getting anyone interested in playing your Trade Hugs version.

Yep, pretty simple. And if you always framed it that way, we wouldn't be having this disagreement.

It's not a disagreement. It's just stating facts. One fact is v2 has serious game play timing issues and numerous major bugs. Another fact is, several players know about these major bugs and they aren't going to report them. If you consider this a disagreement, then that means you are expecting to sway our opinions and/or our actions. That's just not going to happen so deal with it.

If someone is fast enough to spam me in a 1-on-1 combat situation on V1, good on them, I'd rather that then a 1-on-1 combat on V2 where you just get booted back to the menu screen everytime, ROFL Not a hard decision for someone that has a brain!

This was a bug fix! Therefore, you are a bug user and only play the game where this bug exists.

Thousands more people ARE playing this version, and you are loosing quality players who refuse to play a buggy version.

Thanks for the bug report Butch!

If this was a bug fix then JP better go back to school. This isn't a bug fix, it's jacked up game timings that is causing in game issues. The data isn't being handled correctly which in turn cases node termination. If that's a bug fix there's no wonder v2 is all screwed up. Only you would think in those terms. It seems that YOU are the bug user.

"Serious" and "major" are matters of opinion, not facts.

ROFL, we have been telling you this for the last week (actually better part of a year) me ,toyman,kaus, bigd all have said it!!!! It is a function timing issue, that is just one of many, there are about 8-9 different situations, I can duplicate that cause the same problem with the same results!!! If we wanted to exploit bugs we would just play V2, trust me!! What small bugs that are in V1 are very avoidable and non game changing!!! Thats the difference and thats why we refuse to play a tournament on V2, it cant handle the stress!!!!

So being dropped back to the menu in the middle of doing something in a game, isnt a major issue? ROFL Where did this clown come from?