You have your thread requesting someone to do some work
under the hood of...well, all scripts. This thread was started
to specifically debate the merits of gridding or not gridding.

No need to do any flaming, we're all adults, discussing a fairly
adult game. I have a hard time imagining a player younger than
21 or so really enjoying a text/strategy game.

Nobody has given a decent strategical reason to not grid. If
you've spent the energy traveling through a sector, drop a
fighter, even an *ick* toll fighter. Not doing so is a waste of
energy.

PS some games with an established grid can be fun to rewin.
Not playing a game because it's difficult seems like bad
advice to me, how do you learn?

I would be interested in hearing just one reason for not gridding that might help someone win a game (especially a turn based game).

So far as I can tell there is no reason NOT to grid. Turn management, tactical control of space/sectors, increasing access to resources while denying access of those same resources to the enemy, increasing strategic control of a game, these are all reasons to grid.

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Strikes me that it would be kind of foolish to even indicate the reason, lest a tactic flies out the window. I can think of many reasons to not grid indiscriminately.

If you are playing highly competitive scripted games, then yes, gridding is essential to winning.

If I as a sysop want to host more returning player friendly games AND have the critters loose (ferrengi), those ferrengi will turn grid figs into ferrengi and may leave more than is welcome in a friendly game.

Returning players time and time again complain about the gridding of games today, and I agree. Unless and until the Fed Wilson is sweeping open space, I'm asking that if you don't want to grid, but do want to try some of the newer trading scripts, then you should have the ability to NOT deploy grid figs.

Or - guess what, you don't have enough figs or assets but still want to use one of these trading scripts. I've seen these scripts stop dead if you're out of figs.

NOT every game need be played like a tournament. You guys know that, that's why you want builders games, or truce games, or bots that clear sectors.

Oh yeah, here's one... CIM hunting... If I know you are CIM hunting me, I set-up a trap to catch you trying to get to me.

Ba-zinga! LOL

CIM hunting died with increased playing speed and over 5k sector games. However leaving pockets open can have other advantages.

Please share one.


I'm not sure how you cim hunt. For me, my deployed fighters don't
affect the speed and/or accuracy of a cim, so not really sure what
you're Bazinga-ing on about.


Back to your topic again? You still don't understand why deploying
a fighter in a sector with a port you traded at is important. There is
a reason Xide hardwired the deployment of fighters in his includes (hint.)


I'll topspin that one back at you: Not every game needs to be
dumbed down to the level of the weakest player. That's why
there ARE builders games and truce games available.

I believe my post also mentioned that it would be foolish to share tactical information with opponents, or words to that effect?

If its tactical info, you hold on to that, its not like it would win you a game, though it might win you a battle. I can think of a bunch of tactical reasons not to drop a fig (for instance if I am hiding on a port), no strategic reasons though. Besides Kav you dont want to give those pesky n00bs/retreads any info that might help them.

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Here's another example of cryptic script toggles. In your example where [b] = block port report. Public script toggles and help files need to be written in non-programming language. Otherwise this game will always have a very small "cliché'" of geeks and programmers who play.





From my point of view, builders and truce games are "dumbed-down", mutated games that are really a joke of what this game was ment to be.

What needs to be addressed is how aggressive the play has become. One of the major complaints of new and returning players is the heavy grid play. They will learn soon enough why grids are necessary when and if they decide to play the highly scripted games. But, unless and until they do, we need scripts designed for all types of play.

Sigh, you have seen through my façade of innocence. At least, you have given Crosby a single example, as he requested. He might now consider that there might be more. Kaus seems to share my opinion (drat, I hate that, grin) that there are.

When is the last time you corped with Kav? He teaches noobs and retreads whether or not they are corped with him.

Trolling again?

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Giving players what they want is your idea that it is a joke. Interesting so your way of playing is the only validated way of playing TW's?

Sorry but there are many ways of playing and each and everyone has it's place. People like building games cuz it is stress free 90% of the time, you login build some planets move some colies and do upgrade, then sell a little product and chat with others. Plus it gives people a better idea how to familiarize themselves with the game. I know people that have played building games for 5 ~ 10 years with never venturing further cause the enjoy a specific game.

Sorry I know this venting is a little off, but I find your statements like this insulting to all players. There are many edits that I don't like, you know what I do about it .... I keep my mouth shut and just don't play them.... you could learn allot by reading the scripture in my signature.

I vote Grid.... this is a voting question right!!

Hiding on a port? That's your reason to not grid? I can
see it as a reason not to grid one sector, perhaps. You
can hide on a port with a fighter down just as easily.

Yeah, Kaus had a decent point earlier, about leaving some
areas ungridded on purpose. I'm sure it would be helpful
to know when those get filled in by the enemy.

Still and all, a grid helps cloud the universe preventing
wholesale probing. I think in an unlimited game a grid is
essential, and in a turn game it is an important part of
a winning strategy.