Right there is a 3 hour time limit and a time penalty... 3 hours time limit and a 5 minute penalty...if one team use all there 3 hours scanning data thats their choice... they get the penalty like everyone else... Its not against the rules... I know C5 is on line when they do there killing... Can't make anyone happy dont use afk so you kill when they are online... you're using unfair tactics... what is C5 suppose to do... Was this TOURNEY a building game... did I miss that ?

There is no game time usage penalty, or turn penalty, for menu squatters who monitor the statistics.

RP decided (correctly, IMO) not to change ANY settings after the Bang, including his general TWGS ones, when it was brought to his attention that some players were using tactics outside the game to influence the end result.

As long as RP didn't say it was against the rules, and the delay on the high score list wasn't active, then that tactic is fair game. All T0yman is saying is that he's not interested in a game where players are doing that. It's his choice. And if RP wasn't to disallow that in a future game, he knows how. And if that doesn't work, I'll work with everyone to find a way to make it work. It's all about giving players and ops the ability to run the kind of game they want to run.

I share T0yman's distaste, much as I dislike to agree with him : )

That said, I just heard that a menu squatting data mining script is not publicly available?

Its the same as a CIM hunter, been around 15 years or so?

They use a CIM hunter AFTER they detect you have logged into the game. The other script just sits at the T-Menu outside the game watching the High Scores for any changes. If a players exp or alignment changes, they enter the game and kill them. Took them all of two minutes to find my corpie yesterday and photon him, and then I quickly cloaked and logged out.

The game has a 3 hour time limit, but using this tactic they can effectivly monitor the game 24/7! All GameOps need to be aware, that there is no sense in setting a time limit if they are going to leave the high scores mode set to on demand.

It doesn't really matter is they are at the keys or not. The average player can not defend agains these tactics. I have some ideas, but I don't have the resources to carry them out.

No disagreement here, all I meant was that I had heard that a Corp which shall be nameless has the only comparator, and holds it as a secret. : )

Yes, as far as I know it is a private script they don't intend to share. It's a simple script though that Toyman could write in less than an hour. It would take me longer becuase I HATE TWX script. I have no interest in using this tactic though, and I'm pretty sure Toyman doesn't either.

It is true... but its more like grid wars than tradewars.... Who ever gets the biggest grid usually wins... Doesnt matter how many planets you build...grid is the key...

I do not agree with that as a strategy. It is an important tactic, no argument there.

I Darn near fell out of my chair.... lol

I have a couple I have modified and made over the years, but I never use or given them out. I play TL games for a reason. There are a lot of new settings in the current version that could be used to messed with or break such tactics. Or a simple rule, get caught squatting get 24 hours off, but that requires Sysop to babysit.

Yeah, I hate babysitting. There are a lot of new settings for even experienced sysops to become aquainted with.

Maybe in a couple of weeks I'll look at putting something up in the wiki about the new Tedit settings.

That would be extremely helpful.

It soured my mouth to write that line above. I can't even delete it since you replied, god curse it : )

Such a touching (bonding) moment