The best solution to trouble posts...
The best solution to trouble posts...
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LoneStar
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Joined: Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:00 am Posts: 1402 Location: Canada
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 Re: The best solution to trouble posts...
MicroBlaster wrote: Farley wrote: Maybe if your a MAC user, but us Microsoft users get diferent results all the time. Better be careful, according to the Poll results at this time, your dangerously close to Having your post Moved, and this Topic Locked.. lol
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| Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:39 am |
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Farley
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Joined: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:01 am Posts: 425
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 Re: The best solution to trouble posts...
Not sure that happened there, but I didnt post that.
Edit: Ok, went back and saw...laff, you goofed on the Quote commands...laff
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Comet
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Do to the graphic nature of this conversation and Big D has commented on this thread this will be locked or his comment will be removed. Here is your first and final warning. I say do it case by case or just make smack talk open again. Although you should charge members for smack talk. That might help with internetet fees... 
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| Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:45 am |
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Helix
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Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:57 am Posts: 3554 Location: Long Beach, CA
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bobad wrote: If you scrutinize every off-topic, inflammatory, just trolling or insulting post here then this board would lose most of it's members and surely become a ghost forum. It's already very slim on posting compared to most forums, why stick another knife into it. Really? They just keep coming back. But at least they learn to be more circumspect when they post. H
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| Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:58 am |
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Big D
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Helix wrote: bobad wrote: If you scrutinize every off-topic, inflammatory, just trolling or insulting post here then this board would lose most of it's members and surely become a ghost forum. It's already very slim on posting compared to most forums, why stick another knife into it. Really? They just keep coming back. But at least they learn to be more circumspect when they post. H The best part is the moderator of this forum has learned that he doesn't have the power to edit, lock, move, and delete posts on a whim without facing the consequences. So how do you like that for freedom of speech? Go ahead use your mod powers.
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Crosby
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Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:00 am Posts: 801 Location: Iowa
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Quote: Go ahead use your mod powers. Will they use their powers for good or eviL?? Much ado about a fairly simple job of keeping discourse civil. There should be a stigma attached to having a post acted-upon by a mod. It's a sign you should have hit preview and reread your post. This forum should be an easily searchable source of info for players and twgs operators. I think it was Lonestar who aptly described this forum as bloated. It is bloated with frivolous and sometimes petty posts that contain no game play value. Antagonistic posts should just be deleted before anyone adds valuable info to the thread... This whole thread isn't helping the game, just adding to bloat.
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Big D
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 Re: The best solution to trouble posts...
I'd like to point everyones attention to the title and description of this forum.
"Open Discusssions"
Open Discussions Talk about anything on your mind, TradeWars or not. But please, post game playing/hosting questions in the appropriate forum, and keep the discussion civil.
It's pretty obvious that the content does not have to be related to Tradewars, does not have to contain valuable information, and does not have to even be on topic. The only rule that was originally set forth in the "Open Discussion" forum is it shouldn't contain smack talk. When a moderator starts deleting posts because someone expresses personal opinion about a topic, then it's inevitable that members are going to complain and eventually leave.
This is JP's forum, and he can decide how he wants to run it, but just remember what a fellow tradewars player once said, "Time tells all tales !"
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Promethius
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Joined: Mon Feb 09, 2004 3:00 am Posts: 3141 Location: Kansas
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Big D wrote: I'd like to point everyones attention to the title and description of this forum.
"Open Discusssions"
Open Discussions Talk about anything on your mind, TradeWars or not. But please, post game playing/hosting questions in the appropriate forum, and keep the discussion civil.
It's pretty obvious that the content does not have to be related to Tradewars, does not have to contain valuable information, and does not have to even be on topic. The only rule that was originally set forth in the "Open Discussion" forum is it shouldn't contain smack talk. When a moderator starts deleting posts because someone expresses personal opinion about a topic, then it's inevitable that members are going to complain and eventually leave.
This is JP's forum, and he can decide how he wants to run it, but just remember what a fellow tradewars player once said, "Time tells all tales !" The key to me, and what I posted in the moderator's forum, is the word "anything". There really isn't a topic for "open" discussion, and even threads with a title have a tendency to move is different directions. The tendency isn't bad unless an individual is on a set agenda to disrupt every thread.
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Helix
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Promethius wrote: Big D wrote: I'd like to point everyones attention to the title and description of this forum.
"Open Discusssions"
Open Discussions Talk about anything on your mind, TradeWars or not. But please, post game playing/hosting questions in the appropriate forum, and keep the discussion civil.
It's pretty obvious that the content does not have to be related to Tradewars, does not have to contain valuable information, and does not have to even be on topic. The only rule that was originally set forth in the "Open Discussion" forum is it shouldn't contain smack talk. When a moderator starts deleting posts because someone expresses personal opinion about a topic, then it's inevitable that members are going to complain and eventually leave.
This is JP's forum, and he can decide how he wants to run it, but just remember what a fellow tradewars player once said, "Time tells all tales !" The key to me, and what I posted in the moderator's forum, is the word "anything". There really isn't a topic for "open" discussion, and even threads with a title have a tendency to move is different directions. The tendency isn't bad unless an individual is on a set agenda to disrupt every thread.Yep H
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| Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:27 pm |
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Big D
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Promethius wrote: [The key to me, and what I posted in the moderator's forum, is the word "anything". There really isn't a topic for "open" discussion, and even threads with a title have a tendency to move is different directions. The tendency isn't bad unless an individual is on a set agenda to disrupt every thread. Just like these posts that were moved and locked. viewtopic.php?f=14&t=31985viewtopic.php?f=14&t=32107viewtopic.php?f=14&t=32042Very few of these posts were off topic or contained smack talk. As you said there is no topic for open discussion, so how can anything be off topic? So unless there is smack talk, the correct thing to do would be of course "Do Nothing"
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Helix
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Big D wrote: Promethius wrote: [The key to me, and what I posted in the moderator's forum, is the word "anything". There really isn't a topic for "open" discussion, and even threads with a title have a tendency to move is different directions. The tendency isn't bad unless an individual is on a set agenda to disrupt every thread. Just like these posts that were moved and locked. viewtopic.php?f=14&t=31985viewtopic.php?f=14&t=32107viewtopic.php?f=14&t=32042Very few of these posts were off topic or contained smack talk. As you said there is no topic for open discussion, so how can anything be off topic? So unless there is smack talk, the correct thing to do would be of course "Do Nothing" Unless: An individual is on a set agenda to disrupt the thread. I understand that you feel like you don't get the respect you deserve and that bothers you. I feel like if a person is not going to be part of the solution, that person is part of the problem. Why not request to moderate an unmoderated forum? If I wanted to effect a change in the way the forums are moderated I would do it by example. H
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Big D
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Helix wrote: Why not request to moderate an unmoderated forum? If I wanted to effect a change in the way the forums are moderated I would do it by example.
H Nothing you said changes the description of this forum. If you are going to moderate every post that is "Off Topic" by your terms, then you should talk to JP about changing the description associated with this forum. If YOU aren't part of the the solution, YOU are part of the problem.
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Helix
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Big D wrote: Helix wrote: Why not request to moderate an unmoderated forum? If I wanted to effect a change in the way the forums are moderated I would do it by example.
H Nothing you said changes the description of this forum. If you are going to moderate every post that is "Off Topic" by your terms, then you should talk to JP about changing the description associated with this forum. If YOU aren't part of the the solution, YOU are part of the problem. You should go to the Admins with your unhappiness. I will continue to moderate Open Discussion the way I have been. I will lock, edit and move posts based on my judgements for as long as I am the moderator of this forum. H
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Big D
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Helix wrote: You should go to the Admins with your unhappiness. I will continue to moderate Open Discussion the way I have been. I will lock, edit and move posts based on my judgements for as long as I am the moderator of this forum.
H Why would anyone expect anything different from someone like you.
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Helix
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Big D wrote: Helix wrote: You should go to the Admins with your unhappiness. I will continue to moderate Open Discussion the way I have been. I will lock, edit and move posts based on my judgements for as long as I am the moderator of this forum.
H Why would anyone expect anything different from someone like you. You mean someone honest, dedicated and consistent in their application of the rules? H
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