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Singularity
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 Re: The lowly Sentinel
Big D wrote: That's the reason that I suggested that theolian odds only apply to planets with a level 1 cit or higher. However now that I think of it, why can't theolian odds only apply to planets with X amount of colonists on it? That way it would still protect 0 level planets but not allow the better odds over crap planets. Because it would prevent people from being able to pop planets and use them for gbonus. That's why. See my earlier posts on the topic.
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Big D
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 Re: The lowly Sentinel
That's the reason that I suggested that theolian odds only apply to planets with a level 1 cit or higher. However now that I think of it, why can't theolian odds only apply to planets with X amount of colonists on it? That way it would still protect 0 level planets but not allow the better odds over crap planets.
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Singularity
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 Re: The lowly Sentinel
Big D wrote: That's the reason that I suggested that theolian odds only apply to planets with a level 1 cit or higher. However now that I think of it, why can't theolian odds only apply to planets with X amount of colonists on it? That way it would still protect 0 level planets but not allow the better odds over crap planets. You keep asking "Why can't?" and I've given the reason 4 times. I'm sure JP will read it, and now he'll understand why it's not a good idea. Repeating it over and over isn't going to make it any better of an idea.
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| Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:48 pm |
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Big D
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 Re: The lowly Sentinel
That's the reason that I suggested that theolian odds only apply to planets with a level 1 cit or higher. However now that I think of it, It would be best if theolian odds only apply to planets with X amount of colonists on it? That way it would still protect 0 level planets but not allow the better odds over crap planets.
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Singularity
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 Re: The lowly Sentinel
Big D wrote: That's the reason that I suggested that theolian odds only apply to planets with a level 1 cit or higher. However now that I think of it, It would be best if theolian odds only apply to planets with X amount of colonists on it? That way it would still protect 0 level planets but not allow the better odds over crap planets. What is this, a last word contest? LOL... I've already answered your question. It would not be best if tholians only applied to planets with colos. Crap planets need love too.
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| Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:51 pm |
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Thrawn
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Joined: Fri Aug 20, 2004 2:00 am Posts: 1801 Location: Outer Rims
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 Re: The lowly Sentinel
Quote: That's the reason that I suggested that theolian odds only apply to planets with a level 1 cit or higher. However now that I think of it, It would be best if theolian odds only apply to planets with X amount of colonists on it? That way it would still protect 0 level planets but not allow the better odds over crap planets. Please stop posting the "same" post over and over. I got the message the first time I read it. Otherwise, another thread will be locked.
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| Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:52 pm |
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Big D
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 Re: The lowly Sentinel
The Tholian was designed to protect bases and planets, not to protect a crap planet somewhere out in space or allow that player to gain a defensive advantage over other players other than inside thier base. Using this in fed space, alien space, or elsewhere other than protecting your developing planets isn't in the description of this ship.
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booger
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Joined: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:59 pm Posts: 782
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 Re: The lowly Sentinel
cmon dude, quit spamming the topic. copypasta is lamesauce. and its not theolian.
i think we need to have options as to how the tholian operates. making what the ship does scenario specific makes sense to me.
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| Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:54 pm |
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Big D
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 Re: The lowly Sentinel
My last post is the reason that I suggest that the theolian odds only apply when protecting planets with X amount of colonists on them. If the planet has no colonists, there isn't any reason at all for the theolian to be used to protect it.
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| Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:56 pm |
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Singularity
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 Re: The lowly Sentinel
Big D wrote: The Tholian was designed to protect bases and planets, not to protect a crap planet somewhere out in space or allow that player to gain a defensive advantage over other players other than inside thier base. Using this in fed space, alien space, or elsewhere other than protecting your developing planets isn't in the description of this ship. So what? It's now being used to protect crap planets. And it's a perfectly fine and valid tactic. It doesn't hurt anyone, but it does make some edits more fun. Subzero is one of the most popular edits ever conceived. If people didn't like it so much, it wouldn't be the most requested edit I've ever had. The reason for allowing it is to allow cheap alien cashing. Descriptions change. Purposes change. If we don't change with them, then we become obsolete. Sysops have a lot of options on how the tholian behaves. We don't really need to make it any more complex. Why work with something that already works?
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| Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:56 pm |
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Big D
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 Re: The lowly Sentinel
As I said I suggest that the tholian should only be used to protect building planets. Any other use than this I consider a bug.
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| Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:57 pm |
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Singularity
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 Re: The lowly Sentinel
Big D wrote: As I said I suggest that the tholian should only be used to protect building planets. Any other use than this I consider a bug. Then you are free to change the behavior ON YOUR SERVER. Don't suggest global changes that affect the way everyone plays.
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| Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:58 pm |
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Big D
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 Re: The lowly Sentinel
I am free to make suggestions in this forum also, and I suggest that the theolian odds only apply over planets that are building.
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Singularity
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 Re: The lowly Sentinel
Big D wrote: I am free to make suggestions in this forum also, and I suggest that the theolian odds only apply over planets that are building. Yea, but suggesting that everyone fits your limited view of the world just demonstrates why it's a flawed idea. Fascism is lame. You can make suggestions, but don't expect everyone else to just sit by and say nothing when you suggest things that negatively affect the way we play.
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| Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:02 pm |
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Thrawn
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Joined: Fri Aug 20, 2004 2:00 am Posts: 1801 Location: Outer Rims
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 Re: The lowly Sentinel
I just wanted to know if the Tholian was suppose to be setup so if you wanted to land on a planet, it had to be destroyed first. I also wanted to know if it was valid that is was manned vs unmanned. That's how my wife first read the ship description and thought that was what it was suppose to be.
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