you guys don't seem fun at all and it seem everyone is here to fight, not very interesting gaming project...
I've never seem that in any other mud, good luck with your game.

i read them for the drama.


so again can we have a perma corp game or not?

PR rule:)

laff US AND DF

IMO, by you posting that "RP did this or did that..." you are in fact steming or directing the debate. I can see it's a difficult line being both a moderator and a person that has been involved in this particular situation. We all have the right to our opinion. I'm looking at this from not just a moderator, but a SysOp that wants to draw more players in without all the drama. All I was *suggesting* is we mods have to be cautious of how we respond since we have a responsibility to represent both JP and TradeWars, do we not?

which is why i was careful to not say anything that he could deny...You don't see any denials because i can qoute where he said and admitted he did it. By that logic i should just move this to SMACK and your issue would be solved.



Debating an issue is fine. Posting a signature that bashes the particular individual is NOT professional in my books.
Can you Bash someone by Quoting them? i didnt say it,,, i was Quoting him and what he said word for word so i only posted what he said



Perhaps I should have been more clear in my comment on keeping it professional. If you have such a strong issue with this or with RP, then perhaps allowing someone else to take this up rather than you may have been an idea.

sure ill let someone else fight my battles and let them be called SG's puppet..

If I have an issue with someone, I'm certainly not going to post it in an Open Discussion forum for people to feed on and spin the issue into a full out bashing.
Oh i would.....I want hear everyone tell me im stupid or im right or im wrong...I want to hear from people i respect and others i hate...I mean it just wouldnt be the same if i couldnt get at least a Yawn from desert fox every once in a while. I enjoy a good Bashing when i can get one.


I'm certainly not going to get drawn into a debate with you or anyone over whether I think you were being mean, whether RP is right or wrong. I'm posting my opinion as a mod and a SysOp from the view that seeing this in an Open Forum from a new player perspective is not making this game or forum look very appealing or fun.

As I said before, "I'm not discrediting either you or RP". If you have an issue that I can see his side, that is your issue. If anyone has an issue that I can ALSO see your side, that's their issue. This is an open discussion, and I am fine with that, providing it can be discussed with some level of professionalism or tact.
please allow me go on the record in my trust that you would never delete a post only move it to Smack IF you felt it deemed nessecary And i completly trust you to decide what topics or threads are moved to Smack and why. It's your Call and one of the reasons i wanted you as a moderator

I do not agree with the constant bashing of an individual in an Open Discussion. If there is a need to bash, then the topic can be moved to the Smack Talk area.
I don't believe stating facts that neither party disagree with could be called discrediting that person......After all

President Clinton wrote:

I did not have sex with that woman!

is on the record and it is what he said" In open discussion i dont believe in a post that says Screw Space Ghost but i wont presume to move a post where or when u can.

If I am incorrect in this view, then perhaps the "powers to be" would either be willing to tell me what guidelines to follow to know what is open discussion and what is smack/garbage. Or perhaps I need to be replaced as a moderator. Either way, I stand by my comments. My interest is the game, to get new players in the game, to be a help to the community here.

SG, Your own Sig;





If you've no reason to continue to Haunte me, them please remove your sig. I'm done with trying to cater to, or fight with you. I made the decision to put this tournament to rest for the very reasons Thrawn has mentioned. It's not good for the game, nor it is good for me to put up with all the SH** I have reguarding this issue. I'm done with it, I'm moving on, please do the same as you promised you would.

[color=orange] Really? seems to me UTW hosted two tournys this year with ZERO complaints about a Cheating Sysop. not one tourny but 2 tournies..AND NO PROBLEMS.....Big Game 08 and Big Chess Both held on UTW with ZERO problems.....wonder why we ( me and parrothead) Had 0 fights anf 0 problems with a server Sysop thru 2 tournies.

My thought again is that tournaments are nothing above a normal game other than the advertising.

Tournament ARE nothing above a normal game other then the advertising and the amount of people who play them...Sure..ok so what???. As for a tournament defined by 5 Teams- 4-6 man teams Im not even sure BOTE had 5 teams last year...What about games with 2 teams and 7-12 people each team..Would you consider THAT a tournament???..As for the Drama chasing away players ...It attracts them to the forums as well.....Also Dont assume the Authenticity of the Account.

Tournament ARE nothing above a normal game other then the advertising and the amount of people who play them...Sure..ok so what???. As for a tournament defined by 5 Teams- 4-6 man teams Im not even sure BOTE had 5 teams last year...What about games with 2 teams and 7-12 people each team..Would you consider THAT a tournament???..As for the Drama chasing away players ...It attracts them to the forums as well.....Also Dont assume the Authenticity of the Account.

Should the thread just be moved to smack to end that argument?

regardless my "Drama" is over with this subject but i'll respond to anyone and still visit it from time to time Like i said before if it hadnt been for these discussions we wouldnt of even known about what happened.