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Parrothead
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Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 2:00 am Posts: 1722 Location: USA
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Anyone heard from EP on this. No offence to anyone involved but the forced menu is crap #8 #8 #8 #8 opps sorry non functional. Seperate text file for variables is unnessary...lets get an intergrated TWX menu with CK variables for Worst and Best , Blue Price.
This is needed for Bot and Ptrade script use etc.
If you dont have the time I understand...I can fix it up to be useable in about 2 or 3 hours.
If someone runs into EP tell him im looking for him....Thanks.
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| Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:51 pm |
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Singularity
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Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:00 am Posts: 5558 Location: USA
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He's taking time off from TW, but I think he's planning to go a whole new route w/ the haggle. You can always save the best and worst w/ another script if you need, the MCICs are all available thru parms.
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| Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:06 pm |
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Parrothead
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Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 2:00 am Posts: 1722 Location: USA
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I believe it only checks the variables on reload which you cant do because of the supid menu
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| Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:33 pm |
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Singularity
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Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:00 am Posts: 5558 Location: USA
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Which variables, exactly, are you talking about? I think the menu's useful, altho I can see how having a bypass would be nice.
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| Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:04 pm |
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Parrothead
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Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 2:00 am Posts: 1722 Location: USA
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Ok this is the problem...as I see it.
It is not a proper menu. It is some kind of ansi menu.
1) A proper menu can be put directly into the TWX menu allowing manual changes at any time with distrubing what your doing in the game. This also allows turning on and off from another script.
2) There are well known variables stored in the config file used by ck scripts that many other Ptrade scripts use therefore it only makes sence to follow the same format allow rewite of ptrade scripts with minimum effort.
3)No need to manually input mbbs and ptrade numbers...there in the * screen.
So with a menu pooping up at the start and no way to reload the variables in the file without stopping and restarting the script then maybe someone can explain to me how to write a new buydown and nego to use EP haggle that would be Bot compatiable and Ptrade script compatable.
$_CK_PTRADESETTING
$_ck_buydown_mode
$PORT_MAX
$MBBS
these variables are already used by other scripts and stored in config file.
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| Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:31 pm |
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Singularity
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Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:00 am Posts: 5558 Location: USA
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Well EP's haggle won't work w/ CK's planet nego. You'd have to write your own, and in that case you can track the data yourself. Atleast that's what I've done. I think EP is using a different set of standards, not CK's 2.02 stuff... which is a bit obsolete and needs some serious revision.
So what you want is to have ck's stuff feed into EP's? Good luck... hehe. If that happens, please make it an option. I'd really rather not have my variables bleed all over.
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| Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:54 pm |
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Parrothead
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Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 2:00 am Posts: 1722 Location: USA
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harrasing him directly on ICQ now.
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ElderProphet
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Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2003 2:00 am Posts: 1134 Location: Augusta, GA
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Heh, harrassing always has its effect. I'll see what I can do about migrating the complicated haggle routines to an include, and allowing whomever to do whatever in terms of a wrapper to the haggle. It has existed in this format previously, but I found it much easier to code the wrapper with it all as a single file.
It will not be tomorrow, but I'll begin working on this.
+EP+
_________________ Claim to Fame: only guy to ever crack the TW haggle algorithm, and fig/shield/hold price formula, twice.
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| Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:30 pm |
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Parrothead
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Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 2:00 am Posts: 1722 Location: USA
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Singularity wrote: Well EP's haggle won't work w/ CK's planet nego. You'd have to write your own, and in that case you can track the data yourself. Atleast that's what I've done. I think EP is using a different set of standards, not CK's 2.02 stuff... which is a bit obsolete and needs some serious revision.
So what you want is to have ck's stuff feed into EP's? Good luck... hehe. If that happens, please make it an option. I'd really rather not have my variables bleed all over.
thats the point....with ep's haggle writeing a better planet nego is a hour long project at most. I dont want to feed ck scripts into haggle I want to replace ck scripts with something that will allow easy rewrites of already existing ptrade scripts etc.
renameing well know variable name in the config file just causes unnessary bloating. For example MOMbot is using the variable name
$ptradesetting for planetary trade percentage....
is there something wrong with $_ck_ptradesetting as a name?
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| Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:07 pm |
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