Kill the port? Bad form or good strategy
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Big D
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Joined: Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:04 pm Posts: 5025
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Father Cajone wrote: hmmm...where to start?
SG mentioned a case of info sharing in a USO tournie and I was a member of the Good Guys corp who recieved the 'heads up' about being invaded and didn't affect me at all as I was colo sniping at the time and napping. Woke up #SD# as had lost base fig...gotten photoned and snuffed! hehehe...considered it unfair that the corp who got us was deleted from game as there was nothing any of us could have done with the warning anyway.
Just a couple thoughts about ethics of warfare (and IMHO blowing ports is a legitimate tactic...with one MAJOR exception where Xide blew Stardock about 2 1/2 hours into the last USO he played thus effectively destroying the chances for newbs and rusties to learn from a major game!)....
There is no better remedy against an enemy than another enemy. Fredrich Nietzche (1875)
My enemy's enemy is my friend. Arab proverb (?)
An intelligent enemy is better than a stupid friend. African proverb (author and date unknown)
Accurate information cuts deeper than the finest blade. The Final Battle (SciFi novel by William C. Dietz)
Pre Blow the stardock twice and that couldn't have happened. I wish JP would add a port strength editor option and it wouldn't be near as much trouble.
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| Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:42 am |
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Singularity
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Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:00 am Posts: 5558 Location: USA
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Yea, current class 0/9 port level (since they all seem to share the same level) would be a very nice addition in tedit. You can also set the rad clear to 1 day... making it a waste of figs.
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| Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:16 am |
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Alias
Gunnery Sergeant
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:49 pm Posts: 21 Location: Russian Federation
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Cix pages of whether of not to blow something: that's Darn impressive. My ex gf'... she plays with me, and I usally go bad. be'cuz im a good casher'... So I asked her... and she agress with FOLK' Im mean Fork'... So she has moore experience in the matter of blowin' thigs up so.. I say destroy the port so all the lame mega corps... ??? Kan be made extremmly obvioulsy in the Daily newspaper...
Just my opiion...
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| Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:08 pm |
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Slim Shady
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and we truely value your opinion alias
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| Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:02 pm |
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Parrothead
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Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 2:00 am Posts: 1722 Location: USA
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as I value yours Slim....back to Sing's Skirts now like a good boy.
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| Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:27 pm |
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Runaway Proton
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Joined: Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:00 am Posts: 1737 Location: USA
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Space Ghost wrote: Big D wrote: MisBehavin wrote: If I were you I would not even touch that rule. "Megacorping" you will just be causing yourself grief in the end. It's much too hard to monitor all the * that goes on as it is. IMO. Wow, another year of filter changes and our posts will look like this: I'm a *** player to the Trade **** community. Some may call me a **** because I'm so ***. I'd lke to say I really **** the game and would like to ***** more. Could anyone ***** me by take me under their ****? My email is ***player@***mail.com so **** free to email me about this. **** Regards ***player <This avatar was banned for content> * wasnt filtered she did that on her own.
Interesting I was filtered out all together!
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| Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:40 am |
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GodZilla
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You Know how it is RP, we just got rid of the OLD moderators and their circle of friends, just to be replaced by Another. Maybe one day You will be invited to Join
the Inner Circle.
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| Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:52 pm |
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Admin 1
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Joined: Sun Dec 24, 2000 3:00 am Posts: 1432 Location: USA
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GodZilla wrote: You Know how it is RP, we just got rid of the OLD moderators and their circle of friends, just to be replaced by Another. Maybe one day You will be invited to Join the Inner Circle.
Um...hmmmm nevermind,,
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| Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:12 pm |
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Runaway Proton
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Joined: Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:00 am Posts: 1737 Location: USA
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Heh, I didnt have enough friends to become a moderator when they were asking, so I guess I couldn't have brought my ring of friends in with me. No mind though. I've got my hands full now anyway. I really don't give a flip if I am or am not, was just trying to help out.
It is interesting how long a simple question can get drawn out. LOL, did we ever reach a decision? Or the standard agree (or not) to disagree.
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| Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:30 pm |
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Runaway Proton
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Space Ghost wrote: Runaway Proton wrote: OK, I'll bite here. IF there were to be a megacorping rule added to any TWGS, then how do you define the "Line" to be crossed? I agree with D that there's not much point in placing rules on your site, if you can't enforce them. I'm just now kinda unclear as to what MegaCorping is definded as. A lot of this sounds like information sharing between corps. Do we define that as not allowed? If so, how can you prove the offence, and enforce the rule?
The common rule of no mega corping is No sharing of HARD resources(tangible). Of course there are a million ways to do it. But that is the common standard. Hard resources, like I can't give them 5k figs, but what about using those figs to defend another corp? Space Ghost wrote: Allow me to point to one of the most mis managed tournaments in the history of TW. The U.S. Open ...... One year the winning team was deleted due to an ICQ message that was deemed information sharing...(i still have all egroup History on this if needed) since that date no one has had an Information Sharing rule in any Tourny that *I* know of. BTW The message stated " hey wake up Your being invaded" Ofcourse i keep signing up for the dang game...silly me!
Yes, I'd say this is simple information sharing, and what's the harm in it? I have a choice if I see an attack, 1. If I want to see the corp being attacked continue in the game twords my benifit, I'll alert them. 2. Sit back and let a corp attack them in hopes it will take out one, weaken another and I benifit from that as well. Like before, what's the harm done here. I dont see an issue? Big D wrote: My definition for megacorping is as follows: If two corporations work together, with the agreement that one will intentionally lose in order for the other corporation to win. That, in my book, is magacorping and also cheating. Now to prove it? Well about the only way they will get caught is if assets change hands and the sysop can prove the transfer.
This I also I also have to agree with. But as pointed out, how do you enforce, and therefore what's the need of the rule?
I'm begining to see the benifit of leaving this rule out from my board.
Brings to mind a lot of "unenforcable rules" I'll maybe have to review.
Sofar the only rule I tend to agree with, is alien farming, only cause it's really a known glitch, and not intended to be in the game, so for the most part I like the "if the game allowes it, it's fair" rule, with that one exception. (and having to think about that more also)
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| Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:32 pm |
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Slim Shady
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Joined: Thu Jun 06, 2002 2:00 am Posts: 2371 Location: USA
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Parrothead wrote: as I value yours Slim....back to Sing's Skirts now like a good boy.
yawn
when you learn to play maybe i'll take notice, but until then, you have nothing
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| Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:01 pm |
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Parrothead
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Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 2:00 am Posts: 1722 Location: USA
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Slim Stupid wrote: yawn when you learn to play maybe i'll take notice, but until then, you have nothing
You make me laff...keep up the comedy...good work!
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| Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:25 pm |
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Stockton
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Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 3:00 am Posts: 589 Location: USA
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Slim Shady wrote: Parrothead wrote: as I value yours Slim....back to Sing's Skirts now like a good boy. yawn when you learn to play maybe i'll take notice, but until then, you have nothing
What are you talking about slim? Parrot is leet!
Parrothead created a Trading Corp under the name of Kraaken.
Caretaker joined up with Kraaken.
silence captured Parrothead's Merchant Freighter!
Parrothead self-destructed!
Caretaker self-destructed!
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| Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:45 pm |
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Cerne
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Runaway Proton wrote: I'm begining to see the benifit of leaving this rule out from my board. Brings to mind a lot of "unenforcable rules" I'll maybe have to review. Sofar the only rule I tend to agree with, is alien farming, only cause it's really a known glitch, and not intended to be in the game, so for the most part I like the "if the game allowes it, it's fair" rule, with that one exception. (and having to think about that more also) Actually Sing pointed out a very simple solution to Alien Planet Farming, blow all of the ports in Alien Space. If you search for the Mega-corping thread I started a while ago, Sing posted some very good information about how to deal with the issues brought up in that thread. Cerne
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| Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:16 pm |
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Parrothead
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Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 2:00 am Posts: 1722 Location: USA
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Chicken George wrote: What are you talking about slim? Parrot is elite!
Well thanks George..now back to your hole!
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| Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:24 pm |
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