Games without time limits tend to degenerate into afk ScriptWars, which is not quite the same game as TradeWars.

Ad Hominem attacks against Killian (who is a fine player btw) do nothing to advance an argument that no time limit, or a high time limit, would make for a better game.

A newbie, primed with scripts by a CEO, would be quite useful to a corp in such a game. All that is needed is a warm body with a 24/7 connection.

Ok kav.. you go ahead and run an afk photon or pdrop script against me and see what happens..

I voted "any" not 8. My preference would be 4.

I dont run afk scripts. Ever.

not to pick on people, but the whole idea of this is to do different games and edits and bring the turn players closer together in a group so their is actually some compitition, do I want all the games with time limits no, just the first one, each game I think some of the things should be changed, and their for everyone will get somethen they like. The fact is you will never please everyone, so you take the majority for a game vote and then next game you change it up.

And for this being for the newbs, I laff, right now their is maby 1 or 2 active turn player that I think is better then me, and believe one of them is prolly right now the best turn player playing today. Besides him, I don't think many match my calibur. That is my oppinion, prolly not anyone elses but I stand by it. And no I am not going to say their names.

But regardless I think through the different games and setting we can make this work with out alot of fighting or bickering, just remeber next game won't be the same as this one, and why not try something different, or are you afraid that I will SD you?

I'm not stopping anyone from making suggestions. All I am doing is trying to get a game EVERYONE wants to play together. I have stated my own opinions and now we're waiting to hear from other people.

I see your suggestion of 12-15 hours for a time limit, and so has everyone else. If you want to add in a 12 to your vote, go ahead and fill out the WHOLE survey, and add 12 hours or 15 hours or whatever. Its not a webform, its just text. Heck, add whatever answers you want to whatever options, any suggestions will ALL be included in the final tally of votes. And since everyone can see how everyone is voting, you know the results will be accurate.

Why are you being so aggressive towards me about this anyway? I was only the first to mention a time limit, not the last or the only. I'm making an effort to take the lead here and actually get a game going instead of just talking about it and you're doing your best to try and drag me AND the game down by doing nothing but griping about how YOU want the game to be.

Well this game isn't going to be catered to just you, either, just like it isn't going to be catered to me. I'm not doing this for me, someone has to take the lead or the game will never come to fruition. THE primary goal is to get a freakin' TURN GAME going with more than freaking 3 PEOPLE IN IT so we can KICK SOME Butt instead of finding the usual turn based games that are empty, traderless, and devoid of ANY competition.

I could show you a game that fits your specifications fine, with no time limit, decent edit, 10k universe, 1k turns thats already banged: VidKids Game F. But all you'll pretty much be neighbors with ferrengi, newbs in mercs, and a character I haven't played since week 1 because no one showed up. This is the trend everyone in this thread wants to avoid.

My main point though? You saw what I voted for, but odds are the game isn't going to look exactly like my vote sheet. Guess what? I'll still be there and I won't be whining about it not being a certain way.

But you're indicating, as quoted at the top, that everything in this game could potentially be exactly to your liking in all other manners, but that if the time limit was too low, you wouldn't play? Your accusations of me only thinking of myself in regards to this game are entirely hypocritical.

If you have any further accusations, name calling, and bitter remarks directed towards me, start up an "I Hate Killian" Thread in the SMACK TALK FORUM. But this thread is for the game.

Its already been stated a few times, so I don't need to quote, but yeah: Don't forget that the next game we can change whatever we don't like about this first game.

But we can't choose new edits/turns/sectors until we get the first one going.

C'mon people! We have a few more votes to tally now, but I know there are more of you lurking or who just haven't been to the thread yet today.

Heh. You're going to have a difficult time piecing together much real competition using any kind of time limit. But uhm, have fun w/ that.

So far the only source of tension is the time limit, so that is the only place I listed who voted for what. Any other answers you want to look up are in the thread. The tally runs like this so far. I know there are still people who need to vote though:

10k sectors (solid votes)
1k turns (solid votes)
3/4 man corps (TIED SO FAR)
Time limit of 8 hours (MORE VOTING NEEDED TO DETERMINE)
Turn Bank 3 days (solid votes)
Photons Yes 2 Seconds (solid votes)
Aliens No (Unanimous)
Edits: River Rat has volunteered to Edit (Need more opinions on edits)

Sectors          ; 
5k(1)   7k 8k     10k(5)

Turns      
600   750 1000(5)      1200 No Preference (1)

Corp   Size
3(2)    4(2)    5 Any(1)

Time Limit      
Yes(4 RR, Myself, Kav, Mantis)     
No(2 MisB and Stockton Voted No)
      
Hours   4    6 8(3)     Any(1)

Turn Bank     Yes(5) No      
Days     1    2       3(3)   An y(2)

MBBS     MBBS(2)   N on-MBBS(1) Don’t Care(2)

Photons     Yes(5)    ; No      
Seconds   1   2(3)      3     No Pref(2)

Aliens Yes   NO(5)

Edits    A close-to-Stock Game, Dune, or River Rat has volunteered to do edits

Sing,

why post if you have nothing to say that has ANY barring on what is being discussed? please keep that in the smack talk and keep this thread for what it was made for.

Please keep this an open discussion (no smack talk) or i will lock the thread.
Thanks,
earth.

i vote 4 man corps, no time limit, MBBS - everything else looks good to me. i'd be interested in playing, but if you need a host i could do that instead. also, i've been wanting to play my own revstock edits - so if anyone is interested in that, i can provide them.

rev

The edits have some importance, insofar as not all players are familiar with all of the several current popular "themes", ie, CTB, Pirate, Tolkien.. what have you.

If anything other than stock is selected, suggest that planet and ship edits be posted before the bang.

revstock has full ship and planet descriptions in the game ansis.

ps. heh kav - its 10k - are you interested in playing?

Ok ok,, i will grow up.

4 man corps

no time limit <but if there is one make it 12 not 8>

mbbs

no aliens or truce

2 day turn bank

7-10k uni based on how many traders sign up

rev stock sounds good for first game