Prome... agreed. Terra milking, hehe. You know I invented that term? It used to be called sniping. Miss calls it humping, I kindof like that one better now. T-humpa.ts Hehehe. Currentansiline would work if done right, so would a getword. Only problem is that it moves fast enough that TWX sometimes fudges up regardless, I ended up changing some of the trigger behavior instead. The actual fix is not difficult, nor is the workaround.

Rexx: Sigh. This isn't the place to discuss the merits of scripting, the impact of scripts or the use of flaws in scripts. Those are completely different issues. You are entitled to your opinions, but hijacking a thread isn't the way to express them.

Can I get a moderator to lock this please? The message is out, that's all I care about. Now that it's public... if someone uses it and you don't patch or fix your stuff, it's your own dang fault.

I would've done it thru a private list... but alas, I no longer have one.

Edit: jester didn't have anything to do with this. He didn't even know it had happened until he heard about it on fedcom.

I thought Sing was a upright guy, but to banter, and say anything to justify spoofing other teams in a tourney game. all I said was I thought it was bad oversight on Sings part to play with BUG to FIX
a tourney game and not a test game. And I get this Diatribe how he had every right to do it, and he was traitorous to his team if he didnt? and im not so sure that when he was found out he did a per-emtive strike and post here to minimize backlash that he would have got if it was posted in smack talk by Sam or other. its all starting
to sound like back peddeling, subtrfudge to hide the truth!

Im sorry but today I lost a little of my respect I had for Sing.[V]

quote:Originally posted by RexxCrow

I was not attempting to smack talk in your thread, I was only just giving my observation of what I believe to have occurred based on what everybody had posted and I do not believe I am very far from the true of the matter either. Now if I were attempting to smack talk within your thread I would have also stated my additional opinions on this matter such as I think you are full of and you are not being very truthful in your statements. Though if would have noticed I did not do that… also if you will also notice I offered some positive suggestions that could potentially remedy the misuse or unwarranted distribution of your private scripts in the future, thus to prevent this type of abuse from even occurring in the first place. Finally, to close my posts were just as funny as Oso’s and you know it!



Uhm, first off I didn't know anything about what happened until after when I woke up and came into a fedcom conversation, And yes the game hasn't been a REAL active game so far but as to call it boring is alittle to much in my opinion, As a semi promoter of this game I wouldn't think it's a good thing to down the game. But that is just me...

Well, sure if you want to claim I am trying to highjack a thread discussion regarding scripting within a topic that has to do with scripting while I myself was posting a valid discussion about scripting, then laff, sure I am a just another lonely highjacker.

ROFL, I have been hoping Slim would start something up, he is suppose to be acting CEO, really though I have to admit that is a pretty good idea you have! [;)]

Well, while trying to be funny, I sort of succeeded.
In all seriousness- the script was Sing's. He spent the time to make it, he also spent the time to fix it.
If he wants to blow up the script for the other people using it, by all means, let 'er rip!
Some people do that on scripts they haven't written. I really look up to people like Prom, Sing, and Wildstar who can write scripts.
Most of us mooch off of them and the other generous people who release their scripts for public consumption (or have theirs ripped off).
We really don't have any right to complain when someone makes one of our scripts blow up. Unless we're the ones who wrote it.

quote:Originally posted by Singularity

Besides, a test game wouldn't have been nearly as fun. Laff. This game has turned into the most boring BYOC game I've ever been in. No challenges from either corp, everyone's playing turtle. Game will probably stalemate when everyone has a bajillion figs and everyone's afraid to move. sigh


Me personally im waiting to see your guarunteed one winner outcome...A Stalemate would be a typical outcome from previous posts "guarunting" a one winner outcome. Ofcourse we could just blame the moderator..o wait...never mind....WEll we could blame the sysop!! Wait..that wont work either.....hmmmm We could always blame it on ME!! Maybe you can get BadGirl to solve it .....She seeems experienced at Guarunteed last man standing type game turning into Tie's...O wait.You could just wait for ..Sigh...nevermind....

quote:Originally posted by RexxCrow

And the question to the answer for the code is…are… uhhhh, well actually I am torn between:

#1 What... is the Airspeed Velocity of an Unladen Swallow?

And

#2 What is Butchy’s favorite brand of fragrance aerosol to use for his foul odor covering needs and lack of proper hygiene?



This looks like hijacking to me I have nothing to do with this thread leave my name out of here fag!!!!!

It's never cheating if someone spoofs a script, nor is it ever wrong. It's Sing's private script, i'd say use it to his advantage. I'm by no means a fan of Sing, but he had the class to post it first how to fix it, even with it being a private script so I have to give him props for that. Sam, the whining about it is just lame. I'm sure you have other snipper scripts (or humping or whatever you want to call it).

Side note, it's reasons like this why most good scripters don't share there stuff now. No body knows what it means to keeping stuff private.

I think what every one here is missing is that BYOC is a Tournament GAME!
no testing, no spoofing, no bug fixing. its a tournament Game!
this isn't some Ice9 noob game, or a basic who cares unlim!
Its a Tourney, As far as I know in a tourney there is no cheating
no exploits, no bug usage, and no spoofing. and to add to all this
I believe on Vulcan Rules there is no spoofing of any Kind!

say all you want, make up excuses, back peddle, but this is a tourney
and that kind of conduct is wrong no matter what the reasons are! [:(!]

Heh, actually for reasons such as this is why I always cringe when using somebody else’s compiled script, who knows what kind of funky tricks they have hidden in there. Although, I wholeheartedly disagree, exploiting things such as this is completely wrong in any active game, without the other player’s prior consent, period. Sing, is certainly not stupid, he knew perfectly well what he was doing, even when he posted this thread here, just as Zilla had said on the first page. Sign decided it best to run and cover his inappropriate actions, because he knew what he had done was wrong, so now he is attempting to afford himself the right, by claiming an unjustified personal attack upon himself by a group of whiner’s that by all rights had it coming to them, because he was completely in the right to do so. Though, we seem to overlook that is and will always be the wrong answer!


Why, Butchy, yes you do, you are one of the questions that is needed to enter the correct code and stop the self-destruction sequence from occurring (as long as it is entered within the 30-second mark.) Hey, I was desperate I needed something that everybody actually knew the answer to and oddly enough your fancy freshener/deodorizer spray just happened to be perfect for the job. [;)]

Turny games are where testing happens the most. Vulcan's rules aren't important, the game's rules are pretty clear. No moderator. There was no mention of spoofing in the game rules. Hence it's allowed. Back peddling would be making excuses and taking back what was said, nobody here is doing that. If you have a problem with it, well... sorry for you. But it's your problem, not mine.

Again, somebody lock this thread. It's done.

I guess ive herd it all now!, if its not stated in game rules, the server rules dont matter? sorry sing I have to disagree.
SERVER RULES always overrule game rules. and I also dissagree with the testing script bugs in Tourney games! to test a plan of attack
fine, to test a new idea of gridding no prob. But to debug a script in a tourney game? ok I guess in a tourney game anything goes, no rules, cheating allowed, spoofing a must, underhanded playing
wins you plus points!

Im sorry no matter how you spin it, I cant see your reasoning
for spoofing in a tourney Game, and breaking Server Rules![V]

Slim, go bug someone in WoW you troll. You really going to tell me you've never used nor benefited from script bugs? Gimme a break.

Zilla, runaway train. Ever heard of dupe chess? It's an edit where the usual game rule against duping is legal... so yes, game rules can supercede server rules. It happens fairly often.

Here:
http://vulcansforge-online.net:99/forum ... .php?t=706

The rules are "No duping, no mega corping, no alien planet farming."

Actually mega corping is... somewhat, legal in the actual game. Information-sharing mega corps are legal. Resource-sharing is not. That's stated in the game rules.

Where's spoofing at in that list? It's not. I know you won't admit that you're wrong here, but you are. It's not cheating, it's not against game rules. It's not even against Vulcan's server rules (he doesn't have server rules, he has game-specific rules). Now seriously, you can whine about if you want... but that's all it is. Get over it and move on.

Again, to the rare moderator that may pass this way (things basically look unmoderated at the moment) please lock this. This forum is not smack, it's not debate, it's not arguement, it's for people that use scripts and have questions and issues regarding them. If you want to open your own "scripts are bad" or "breaking scripts is bad" thread then fine, feel free. But don't hijack mine. Can I get this thing locked now?

no, i have never benifited from script bugs.
if you read past posts, you'll see i've been the victim of someone doing the same thing you're doing.
it's lame and pathetic.
i guess you're one of those guys that says "if the ref isn't looking, foul 'em hard!"
gg