The issue is not treating players with respect or treating them as a newbie or as a superior player then oneself. The issue is regarding accountability, knowing which real-persons are actually playing and which are not. Using fake names offers no accountability one could just as easily be playing on each of the corporations in the game or run the assigned corporation entirely by themselves.

Using real handles in some fashion of public display at the least will permit the true owner of that name to come forward and say hey that is not me, I don’t know who that is but it is not me! As another player in the game would be able to comment to the actual owner about them playing in the game, after-which that would be hocking news to the owner of that handle as they had never signed up to be in the game. Of course, you still have the issue of people using the names of established handles of which are really just dupes of the same player anyways, though that is a different issue in itself, it is relative thought; although it would be more difficult for a person to keep up several personas consistently it would still be a possibility. Besides, if player are using this tactic, there is a pretty good chance that other players are already suspikious of them doing this by their actions in the regular games, which they play throughout the year.

Knowing a players by the way the act/react, only if a text message from the script itself if broadcast over Comms, or actually tell you script they are using, and you are familiar with the timing and manner in which is performed all jives, then sure, although that would be the only way to know which script was being used, now does this tell you which player that is, not at the least, any person is free to use whichever script they wish and may be even using their own self-created script, or MOD an already existing script, or even MOD a script to send out a message that another script would normally send out over Comms, if so which you would have not idea how that operated as it would be entirely private.

About names leaking out, you would still not be sure if it were them or not, them surrendering their names at the end of the game, well the damage is already done by then, the game is finished, if there were players that were cheating it is to late to pull them out of the game by disqualification, to late to go back and repair the damage that was caused by that or those types of people.

At the very least this way you know that player-X, Y, and Z are on Corp. A and player-A, B, and C or on Corp. B, etc., or you would know that player-A is player-1 on Corp A, etc.; you still do not know which player is using which fake name but you do know that they are on that Corp. and have the capacity to confirm this by contacting the known owner of the handle.

Oh for pete's sake. It's a GAME. If you played more you would know who these players are. I already do. It took eh, 5 minutes of ICQing to find the names. Why did I care? Well I didn't really... I was just curious and bored.

Yes you will know who they are during the game. Yes you will, you will know with 100% certainty because of either their playing style or the sheer fact that the grapevine will tell you. The scripts don't tell you squat, people get other scripts or change their comms output all the time. What you get is their method, their aggression, their gridding style, their defense and building style, their schedule, all those things and more.

So what if, at the start, you don't know who they are. That's part of the game... mystery. Get over it. If someone wants to play with an alias there isn't jack squat you can do about it. Especially if you're not even playing in the game. If you are playing in the game then make up your mind not to let them win, raise your game and kick their butt. There's no place for psuedo-morality here, it's win or lose. Put up or shut up.

Cheating? You're kidding right. Mega corping is allowed in this game. Duping... nobody dupes in a tourny game. Duping is a losing strategy... only bad players dupe and that's because they die or burn their turns so quickly that they need another handle (which either dies or turn-burns as well). Duping is embarrassing for the duper, but not a serious threat to anyone else in a tourny game. And it's not like Vulcan is going to be handing over the keys to t-edit... don't even get close to there.

Seriously. Play a bunch of tourny games. Then tell me what you think about this stuff (not just aliases, the game in general). Until then, stfu. You need to play more. This is more than just an academic exercize, no matter how much you "think" about it you still won't understand it. You actually have to walk the path.

Rex do you have to really agrue about everything. This is still accountability. Vulcan is not going to allow duping on his server, and Sing said it best, a duper would really not have any affect in a turny stile game. as far as he said or who said what, who cares, its a game, have fun with it. And if your not even in it, your oppionon doesn't even count.

lol, not to mention that bad girl is handling the registrations

go lay down a little while, rexx

Hahaa, ROFLMAO “you actually have to walk the path”, it’s common sense plain and simple, no more and no less. Sing you’re a dip-wade for coming into my own thread and tell me to “stfu”, screw you… and BTW in the future it is “STFU”, alright? Remember you got’s to use the big boy voice when you are amongst the men, you got that you Butt? BTW, you seem like you know an awful lot about duping, to me it seems to the point of knowing from years of personal experience. Sing the Mega-Duper Dude, does sound very catchy though!

Mega-Corping is an issue for another target or I mean topic, Mega-Corping has no relevance to this topic. What is that you seem to enjoy saying so much Sing? Oh yea, please to try and stay on target! Ok, so if you are already 100% certain, then that means players on the corps are acting as moles to serve other corporations, that point would bother me as a player. If you are already 100% certain from 5-mintues of ICQ conversations alone, that more-so prove my point as another valid reason to just use actual names instead of fake ones. Dealing with IP’s if you are dedicated and computer savvy enough there are many of ways around the IP issue, I would of thought you were already familiar with all that though, oh well guess not.

Sing I personally am to the point of believing you are so full of crap, I have to ask you to just please stop following me around replying to posts I make, I am near the point of just ignoring you all together, except I seem to keep falling back on my allegiance just to make fun of you because it affords me a slight amount of entertainment throughout my day, just sometimes though. See, you never have anything positive to say to me and you expend yourself so hard to make me look like of fool, so far as I have seen it always backfires on you, maybe you like that sort of attention I don’t know, I’ll have to admit to that. If you don’t really care then why oh why do you try so hard? I’ll just ask you to consider what I say thought, that is all.

Myself I would not want to waste a month or two of time playing in a game were I had to about other players cheating or serving as moles as I would never actually know how the were or not, (unless I myself went and make outside contact with them to confirm if it was truly them or not, and that might appear silly and suspikious to my assigned Corpies, unless they were not actually who they said they were.)

Do not even bother to try and pull that your opinion does not count or matter, or argue crap with me. That just tells me you know I do have a point of concern and lack an appropriate rebuttal. Besides do you actually think I am actually going to listen to you and your lame Butt statements? You should know better then that by now! LMAO

quote:Originally posted by Steel Magnolia

lol, not to mention that bad girl is handling the registrations

go lay down a little while, rexx


Yea, I bet you would like that you freaky girl! Sorry to tell you though, I do not yet know you well enough for that sort of thing! LMAO

BTW, don't forget the coconuts are for you, you should correct your signature to account for that, you need to look for both your salt and your coconuts. Whatever you need the salt for, I don't want to know! [:D]

Rexx, you really do need to re-read all the posts in response to your 1057 posts. You are missing a lot of what has been said.

How interesting that you have resorted to sexual implications. A high-brow such as you, should have had more valid things to say.

I am totally done with you now.

maggie, waiting for someone else to clue him in lol

Okay Rexx chill, that last reply is bordering on Smack Talk.

Now, for the megacorping issue Rexx, the Megacorping is for corps with two sets of players, and they have to be named as such, corp xxx a, and corp xxx b, the megacorps will be paired corps and have to reflect the same name set. This is if there are enough players to have dual corps for mega corps. If not, then it is every corp for itself. If you need more info on this go to Bad Girls site and get it.

As for Dupes, I investigate them and if they are indeed dupes, I kill off all the dupe accounts and give a warning the first offense, and a 1 to 7 day ban the second offense, the third offense is a month, the fourth, will be until I decide to let them back, and will definitely last no less than a month and a half.

Okay now all know my punishment for duping, this isn't really a private knowlege thing, most players that play my server know this.

But really Rexx just chill a while, you don't have to get angry and puff up at people when they rip into you. It doesn't personally botherr me, if they do it to me, it is when uncalled things happen to others that get me riled up. I think it is funny when someone rips into me and not knowing me, and I will not take it personal and personal attack unless provoked seriously. Ask others who know me, and see what they say about me, I am just using me as an example. I am not ripping you Rexx, just asking you to calm down and think some before letting a temper get you in deeper in things.

I do wish you well in your projects and hope they work out well tho. and other things about you aren't all that bad either. Just relax and let the steam blow off before answering things heated. Sometimes a cool off works wonders. I know, I used to act rash a lot on things, I had to learn it too. And sometimes I will lose it still,but not as often as before.

quote:Originally posted by Steel Magnolia

Rexx, you really do need to re-read all the posts in response to your 1057 posts. You are missing a lot of what has been said.

How interesting that you have resorted to sexual implications. A high-brow such as you, should have had more valid things to say.

I am totally done with you now.

maggie, waiting for someone else to clue him in lol


Awwww, so that is what you are actually upset about the size of my "post-count"! wink, wink ROFL!!!

More valid things to say to you? Well, I shall as well remain on standby for you to actually post something worthy of a valid response, so far you have only resorted to ridicule, which is fine by me, so long as you do not actually expect me to take you the least bit serious.

Man alive, yea now of course talking about band wagons and reflections in the mirror, WHATEVER with ya! BTW, this is my United of WHATEVER!!! [;)]

Rexx,

It's not "your own thread" k, it's a public forum. It's stfu, again if you played more you'd know that. Caps are irrelevant. You're the one that needs to yell and scream, I'm happy talking in a regular calm voice. If you have to yell to make your point then you're not making a point to anyone but yourself.

I don't need to dupe, I actually win games with just one handle. But again you wouldn't know because you don't play.

Mega corping is legal in USO and is relevant because you just brought it up by referring to various methods of cheating. Mega-corping is considered cheating in most situations, but again with the "if you played more you'd know that." You brought that up, not me. If anyone needs to "stay on target" it would be you. The "mole" thing... do you even understand what mega corping is? Because that has nothing to do with it.

You claim it's common sense but obviously it isn't, since you didn't understand it.

And I am 100% certain from 5 minutes of ICQ work. It's not rocket science. You can think what you want, your opinion carries no weight with me. Play me sometime big boy... we'll see how long you last.

USO is not going to last 2 months, again with the whole "if only you played more" thing.

I'm not the one that said your opinion doesn't matter, but ya know... I'm starting to agree with it. Nobody acts as "mole" for another corp, because only 1 corp can win. They'd be cheating themselves of a win. Understand? Common sense, eh? The people ON the corp know who is who, and you don't corp with people you don't trust. Again, if you played more and played with real players you would know this. Common sense.

While vulcan does take duping seriously, very few players would actually dupe in a tourny game... and those that actively use dupes (not just a chat dupe) only do so because their chances are so poor they need them to stand a chance.

V, few people these days would rip into you. Rexx on the otherhand... Keeps going and going. It's so trivally easy to push the Rexxbutton that it's almost losing it's appeal. Almost.

Nobody is impressed by your post count. Some of us have bigger things to work with.

Rexx is relying on all those games he actually played in. When I was part of the winning corp for HHT, we all knew each other.
No moles or proles.
Ah, Rexx- the voice of Wisdom and Experience...
Er, nevermind.

I am not mad at the least, there are simply just a few people that I have come to find extremely amusing, it is they who want to ram rod me. Well alright I say have at it. Keeping in mind of course that I am also entitled to fire back at them, as this is only fair. I take those types of persons only as a joke, not taking them at all serious and their comments not at all personal; as you should be easily see in my responses to those types of persons. IF they themselves are unable to handle it, then they themselves need to leave me be and not post their sly comments about me. It seems like I post a lot because there it is what five vs. me (for example). So, I am having to reply to five others meanwhile those five others are replying back to me. Now that being said it is very hard to keep up with all them and thus, I am not able to explain myself completely in detail to each and every one of them, so I just respond until my response makes sense to me and leave it at that.

The only problem I have is the band wagon issue, see everybody once again is pointing their fingers at me as the cause of the problem, a problem that is really a non-issue anyways as this is a forum to openly discuss issues anyways. As to why the finger points comes my way, that is because I am the new guy and they do not like me, and for other various reasons I am sure. Now I don’t really care why and am not depressed by their attempts, I myself am a successful person in life, I have proven myself worthy in life, I have given 4-year of my life to defend and represent the USA, and I probably uphold a better career then most of them currently do.

My point, currently I am defending a point (in a UTW related thread), plain and simple, and I am getting pecked by several others, although mostly by SG, Oso, and Sing. So, why is it that everybody keeps tell only myself to STFU, go away, kill the horse, etc.? Why is it that I am the only person somehow in the wrong? Because nobody dare tell say something like that to a popular player, such as those mentioned above, but to do it me it is ok, as to why? Because I am just another nobody to them, that represents nothing to them.

Also, to note in proving this point, look how long it took for SG to involve himself in the original matter and as soon as SG did (after it had died down, with other popular users no longer actively posting on the issue), that is when he decided to join in on the matter. Presumably, SG himself would not even want to get on the offensive side of other popular users. Thereby, leaving me mostly on my own to represent the issue myself. Which to me is all fine as I absolutely loath bandwagons and will burn them to the ground at the earliest possible convenience… with or without coconuts being on them.

The real issue that is hidden within all this is person not involved with any of the discussions coming in to make argumentative and insulting posts to another person with no other purpose then to cause them public grieve, i.e. making a post to another that impart entails telling them to STFU, or to just go to sleep, or to give and go away, or you are of no importance to us so your “opinion” means nothing to us, or why are you still here, etc.; whatever the case may be. Why in the world would anybody in their right mind take those persons the least bit serious in any discussion? Those types of persons are an insult to themselves as they have no creative opinion of their own, other then to simply rely on baseless insults and find joy in increasing their personal value through more-so favored demeaning and belittlement tactics directed onto another that is disliked by a person or other persons whom that person is craving acceptance from.

All acronyms are properly represented by capitalized letters, not lowercase letters or did you do poorly in grade school?

Once again a thread is being taken over by pointless babble. Please look at the guy to the left, he is trying to tell you something.

Rexx, in order to be a popular player, you actually have to PLAY.
The reason you get "pecked" is because of your pig-headed unwillingness to answer points, and do anything other than beat the "UTW is EVIL" dead horse.

I went back and did a serch for any SGO posts- the only ones I found were by Dupe SGO accounts- and they all seemed eerily similar to your style.