quote:Originally posted by TheButcher

Iam not backing up Rexxcrow but, I have played with Rexxcrow once ! It was the byoc aout a year ago at vaders server (blacksun) It was ME, zoso , N-ast, HHH, Gunslinger, and Rexxcrow If my mind servers me correctly we actually stuck it out the whole game and ended up being a stalemate


Oh brother, don't even remind me of that cluster of a game, who could blame me if I never wanted to player after that pitiful experience.

Dont lie tho you had fun Rexx!

yawnzors

Haha, ok maybe a lil', double yawnzors for me! [|)]

quote:Originally posted by RexxCrow
ROFL. I am so very sorry Traitor have we met? You know that’s surely is funny, but I didn’t actually think so, was just checking. Seriously, dude you sound like a broken record, man alive! If that is all you have to say to me, then please don’t even bother. As I have received your all-important message a long time ago. If you believe you are going to bone-up some type of warped brain washing tactic over me, it is never going to happen; however, if you must persist then have a away, I say.
OK, it's ON then.

You, too, sound like a broken record. The time spent trolling in the forums could be spent playing instead.
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I know you don't want anybody (even though you will deny it and resort to deluding my own works, wink, wink) least of all me messing with the steam of your beloved 'tw-cabal.com', but it is not going to happen, I am not going quit working on it because of your or anybody elses attempts at belittling me as I consider myself way beyond all that weak small-boy with a tiny-toy junk. Suffice to say you do not personally own any of the phraseologies, processes, strategies, tactics, terms, words, or what have you, or even the have you not's involved within or without the game of TradeWars. So, enough said on that respect.

HAHAHAHAHA You are so wrong now, it's not even funny. It has very little to do with ego, and a whole buttload to do with the quality of info. I don't want BAD info. Bad info and lack of good info is what drove off more TW players than even scripts. Your stuff was full of it. I will continue to tell you to go play more until such time as your stuff stops containing bad info. You can post whatever you like, and as long as it's factually accurate, and doesn't use my exact wording, I won't care. But if you get things wrong, I will point it out.
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Seriously though Traitor since my projects, questions, posts, etc., etc., etc. are truly stressing you out that much I would please ask you to simply pass the ol’ maestro-Rexx over from now on, as I do not wish to be responsible for any upcoming coronary events you may or may not have. I would like to thank for all your help though as I truly appreciate it! I refuse to get any more personal with you as have so done toward me, as I do have much respect for you, so I shalt leave my words to rest at that.

When you are wrong, I can't pass it up. Especially not on THE EIS FORUMS. That's part of why I wanted to be a mod. I was sick of all the bad info. I realize that there are a few very minor points where my site is wrong. I know exactly what is wrong and why. Why? So I know when people are swiping info from my site. [:D] It's crude, but efficient.
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Just for the record (officially) I have played on many different servers, I just have not played in the last year (or getting close to a year now), as I am very busy with many, many other projects, which are varied between personal, work, and game related. Dedicating time to playing games is something I am unable to currently do. Sadly, it seems though a few of the servers I really enjoy playing at do not seem to be up anymore or have no active players on them, as I was tooling around last week, while editing another reference to confirm link info, etc. I am sure there are others out there, I just do not know of them as of yet.

[Broken Record] While you are out there looking, why don't you try and play on them? [/Broken Record]
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I do test things out on my own server when appropriate to answer and confirm many of my own questions in regards to determining the correct or somewhat correct answer, although often there are certain things I need to know that testing own my own would require a gravely detailed and time consuming investigation along with an abundant amount of edit tweaking to come up with a conclusion that most likely will not yield an entirely correct or suitable answer, anyways. Thus, I ask for help from others that more then likely have the answer memorized, as I am not ashamed to ask for assistance in these respects as is it is good for the game as a whole.

Translation: I want to do this massive project, but I'm too lazy to work out the details, so I'll post inaccurate information and rely on my betters to sort it all out for me. And when they complain about it, I will use the "I'm trying to help the community" as a shield to hide behind whenever someone questions my methods or offers sincere advice. I know your type. You want it both ways. I was TRYING to support your work, but now I don't give a rats.
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Other things I recall from memory (i.e. confusing level-4 mobile with level-5 shielding) just to move on and keep my pace going while editing, with the full intention of going back later on and correcting my guesstimates. As for me personally it is more important to not get distracted when working with many pages of information such as 70-plus pages as of current as they are DRAFT versions anyway and still need to be edited and compiled to their final forum. The glossary portion is currently at 28-pages in length alone.

Translation: Details and accuracy are less important than quanity.
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Additionally, participating in active gaming for a month or two before continuing this project is not going to adequately teach me about all the aspects of internal game functions, such as: Extern, Midnight, the workings of StarPorts, Red tactics, and game related slang terminologies… until I… that’s right, you guessed it! Asked the other players to confirm this same information, i.e. if I do not know the methods involved in SDT, vs. SST, vs. MR, as far as I am concerned I just created my own process of earning credits while trading on my own; hence the importance of defining the workings and processes involved in the game to not only encourage new players to join up the TradeWars cause, but to also keep them instep with the game for many years to come.

Nor will reading how to play from a book teach you any better. Experience is everything in this game. If you want to encourage new players, start a server and advertize the heck out of it. Find out what your players want, and then provide it. I disagree with many of the things that UTW does, but their command of a loyal following is undeniable. In the cosmic scheme of things, they, and all the other sysops out there, are much more important to community building than any dusty tome of knowlege.
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Although, asking for help from other players in a gaming environment I believe to be very risky as I have to worry if the player giving me information is talking out of their Butt or not, they might give me wrong info to distract me and give them an advantage such as, “Rexx, sure I am glad to help ya’ bro, to answer your question just simply press CBY and that will take care if, no need to thank me! Have a great game buddy!“ or of course I might get a player like Sage or even bob that can’t even count giving me the answer and then I will be all screwed up for many years to come and will probably end up needing intensive psycho-therapy, shock-treatment, or will suddenly start suffering from autism. At least here it is in a public forum and if there are errors or something needs more clarification then was originally given those more knowledgeable on the subject can sink their input into it as well.

Well, la de da! Imagine what TW was like before I started compiling info and doing research? The thing that you forget is that the public forum is made up of volunteers. The only people here who are under any obligation to answer your questions are the moderators. I have been WAY more patient with your questions than ANY previous moderator would have been. Most of the previous ones would have answered your quesitons in one of the following ways:
1. use the search feature, that quesiton has been asked 50 times before.
2. tw-cabal.
3. google.
4. go play some more and figure it out.

You also fail to realize or appreciate the work it took myself and others to answer your questions. I'm not asking for you to bow and scrape at the altar of Traitor. I just want you to understand that the "blazing ahead regardless of the accuracy" is not making you any friends. OTHER PEOPLE READ THIS FORUM, and I don't want people to get misguided by your work-in-progress. Therefore, it's critical that your mistakes are cleared up immeadiately. However, that puts an enormous strain on the forum readers, particularly since you make unannounced corrections all the time, so we as a community have no way of knowing what you have fixed without reading all 28 freaking pages over again. THIS IS NOT MAKING YOU ANY FRIENDS, PAL. You are holding a gun to the community, and you don't seem to care.
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[}:)]
Other then that CHT-birds like the admin staff at UTW are totally wrong for taking credits on things that DO NOT BELONG TO THEM and I will continue to watch-dog their sorry actions until they become selective and get corrective! Darn that turned into a long posting, geez![/beige]

Nobody, nobody at all, gives a rats about the 2005 awards. Sage is a glory hound, and that's too bad. He must have small feet or something. <shrug>

You don't listen to good advice when it's given. I'll try a different approach this time. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Don't forget that the 1st amendment does NOT apply here.

And Rexx, you have NO idea the hell that this community put me through while I was trying to get my site going. There are a few old dogs who remember that for the most part, I was a pirah. I was never in this for the ego trip. I have MORE than enough ego to go around without the need for my tiny little site. I do all of this because I love the game, and nothing more. It's NOT worth all the bull otherwise. If I wanted attention, I'd make a web-comic where the main characters had big b***s.

ROFL, listen to you, “OK it’s ON then.” Wow, I never realized just how full of yourself you actually were until I read through that desperately nit-picked post of yours. I am not really going to reply to any of it other then to state that you just proved my initial point, for whatever it is worth. Now, don’t misunderstand I don’t really care what is worth to you in actual literal terms one way or the other. So, again thank you. Darn my mouse will not stop shaking, stop it little mousy, hehe. [:)]

Although, there is one important thing to touch on however, so lets gets this straight: We are all to believe that you setup your very own site to give the most accurate and available information about the game, but then laced it with inaccuracies and misinformation to catch whenever other people steal information off your site to use for their own site, (like this happens frequently, other then what Sage did, I have never heard of such a thing) and then recently you became an EIS moderator to keep the forums accurate in their complete entirety, but have serious personal issues in doing so? That is one of the most mental things I have heard.

Especially after you consider of course that most of the information that makes up the majority of your site is composed works of other players that have contributed to not only your site, but others as well. The research you conducted on you own is hardly enough to compose the makings of a fully fledged web-site of helpful information. Yet, you wish to take sole credit for your sites popularity? Additionally, most of what is on your own site can be viewed on other less popular sites anyways, as most of these are charts, guides, references, and such which were not made by you, but by older players that have since retired from the game. So this crude but efficient method of yours seems to have been a dire failure after-all.

Finally for the goodness of being, please stop with this gun to head BS, we have to correct your errors for the sake of others, you don’t even care; that is just so totally weak! Seriously, where are you applying for the position of martyr? (Just asking as I did not except them to be hiring so soon.) This is all apart of the development process, if it is to difficult for you to type out a few sentences and/or paragraph, you sure do not seem to have a problem doing that right now and besides as you said moderators are volunteers, although they are not obligated to anything, hence the term “volunteer”. Believe me I have put a lot of my own research time into things, I have spend many, many, many countless hours typing, reading, editing, creating appealing layouts, etc. You don’t hear my crying about any of it do you? You don’t hear me asking for anything from anybody do you? (of course with exception to obtaining confirmation on finalizing definitions and such, sounds pretty Darn plain, simple, and straightforward to me.) That’s right no you do not, you just keep hearing about new insights, nothing more and nothing less. But, hey if your site was really all that I would not have to ask so many “gun to the head” questions now would I! Now don’t forget I had originally stated in my initial posts that these were “drafts”, just or that specific reason, now of course if you are a player of any caliber and you don’t understand that term, good luck to you, enough said.

For the record its not the awards that I am concerned with, it is the demeaning actions of Sage that I find disrespectful to other people in this community that I respect. Now yet again you presume to tell me what it is I do or do not do? You presume to tell me what it is I think or do not think? You presume to state what is it that I do or do not listen to? Unless I have previously stated otherwise, well surely that is might-fully presumptuous of you. You know nothing personal of me, we are not buddies, we do not know one another on any matter of a personal level and nor do I appreciate you publicly stating falsifications of me. I know you don’t care though, besides being completely wrong in your statements, which are fairly uncalled for, you are way to busy campaigning. Oh, that’s right I am the one that does not care, opps I had already forgotten, oh well. Friends, whoever said I was here to make friends, no, no, I am here to enjoy a hobby and somewhat socialize in the process. So you can just keep your friends cap back in your pocket.

Also to note, with exception to minor the cleaning up of text, spelling, and sentences all new serious modifications and terms had been first placed for preview in one of the main topics terms threads so that others could easily review them to include their own suggestions, so there was an opportunity to read them before being placed in the actual larger glossary threads. If you would have truly been paying attention you would have noticed that, but no you were to buy making whiny-baby posts.

I find that somewhat odd, you speaking about rats, especially when you take into account how much you “wine” about truly petty things… hey, hey, I got some nice goat cheese for ya! Tee-hee-hee. The rest of your prefab dribble deserves no response from me. As I have some yummy, yummy ice cream standing-by for consumption and me X-files be awaiting, arrrrrrrgghhh!! Well, enjoy your cheese. [;)]

Eh, pariah, martyr, Darn I was seriously close. LMAO!! Geez, I can't be to far off on my other observations, then. Oh boy I better start repenting now, lotta catching up to do! [:O]

quote:Originally posted by RexxCrow

Thank you for point that out Space Ghost I was totally unaware. If overzealous includes taking ownership of that which was not of their own creation, making false claims regarding events that have yet to have occurred, and starting an “overzealous” ruckus by spinning the facts to make themselves appear as victim to something they never had any entitlement rights to ever! Then yes, overzealous they would be. The only difference would be where I come from we more so simply refer to that as: blatantly lying, deceiving, and serving in a hypocritical fashion.

Yes speaking of our little ICQ chat, thank you so much for popping up to give me your little spill, which soon after that lovely chat with you some douche named bob starts in over here as well as at his own UTW forums with a barrel load of his BS crap to shovel straight onto the EIS forums seemingly straight from Sages mouth. Meanwhile, Sage is still posting his distorted BS and has yet to make any changes to his less then accurate statements. Your mad, all right, good for you, join the club! You want to be proud of fallacy; sorry I can’t help any of you there, although I can help to control the spin.

BTW I play TW like I play with myself, several times a week, (just in an information gathering capacity.) Play at UTW, like hell rapture all fury, I shalt not! [^]


First of all you have no idea what your talking about. So lets address the garbage that seems to flow from your pie hole with regularity.

Lets start with your first claim..about taking ownership of something that wasnt thiers..I assume your speaking about Sage posting info on HIS forum that was taken directly from TW-Cabal.
Any Problem that Traitor has with UTW im very sure he can handle it directly with them. I COULD be wrong but i dont think he needs your help.So maybe you should keep your nose out of something like that because in reality it doesnt concern you.
And since this has been addressed and corrected you should get over it.

Now the second item of garbage that spills from your keyboard is that
"making false claims regarding events that have yet to have occurred"

I assume that you mean the TW awrds for best tourney....

I never seen where Sage posted a claim about an event that hadnt happened.

I hate to burst your bubble their idiot boy but that wasn't thier fault...The Fault lies with the person responsible for reviewing the Nominations in each category..and you know what else?

Nobody cares!!!

you also state "Meanwhile, Sage is still posting his distorted BS and has yet to make any changes to his less then accurate statements."

Listen up here idiot boy cuz this is semi important....Sage has the right to post any and all opionons he has on his own webiste!!!
You dont like his less then accurate statements?? then dont go to his website!

And before i forget whatever Bob posts has NOTHING to do with me...

I've been here in TW Longer then you,Bob, or Sage and i dont plan to go anywhere any time soon.

Simple rule of thumb..IF you dont have anything nice to say then keep your fool mouth shut. We don't need your negativity towards an ACTIVE server.AND we don't need your BAD PRESS when it concerns our Game of Tradewars.

let me touch on that a little more so u really understand,,,,,

We need UTW and servers like them to stay open so we have places to play!!! We do not need people (like you seem to have become) who dont even play there complaining about a server that doesnt even effect them.
You state
"BTW I play TW like I play with myself, several times a week"

IF this is ture maybe you should consider keeping your negative thoughts to yourself as well.

Wooooooooooooooooooooooo! Those are fighting words!

Group Hug?

You know what. MizB is probably right.

Rexx, you got under my skin. That is entirely my fault. You do what you want. Nobody will stop you. You can take my advice or not. I've been here a long time, and played even longer, but my way is by no means the only way. I wish you luck in your future projects, and I hope that in time, they do benefit the community.

This thread is really getting long winded and really useless
so at this point it is now locked, begin a new thread if desired.