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If you can't do it locally then you're probably fine there, lol. Sounds like either A: He made a mistake and over-reacted or B: he just doesn't like you. Why not ask him?

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quote:Originally posted by TheBountyHunter

So there I am on Ultimatetw.com server using Xides Turbo SST script when I get disconected. I try to re-connect and it says access denied. WTF. My team-mate asks Sage and was told that I was using 70% of the CPU by-myself on a server with 25 people loged in.
So I would like to ask this questions.
1) How can you verify CPU usage of a specific NODE in TWGS.
2) Would canceling out screens really use up tha much.


The only way possible you could use 70% of the CPU is if you had several nodes locked up. That would be a server problem not your script.

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Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:44 pm
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First off we LOVE BOUNTY Hunter second off the way to tell which node is using up ALL your resources, if it ever happens, is to disconnect the tw2002 node of the player (use task manager to tell) using up all the CPU usage and then at the same time watch which player simultaneously drops from the TWGS. It may take a few times if you have a lot of users.

If that user has an auto relog script say like TWXProxy and the SAME user keeps logging back in and your usage keeps spiking coupled with players complaining about the lag you KNOW who the culprit is even though it is unintentional you still have to deal with it.

In this case Bounty Hunter says his messages were off (and of course we beleive him) Sage tried to reach him or his corpies in the game and couldn't. Sage then double checked the Game Log to verify that indeed he was correct in which user was autologging back in at the exact same time as the CPU was spiking.

Sage needed to stop the auto relog and CPU maxxing. Sage isolated for sure who was the cause called me on the phone reattempted to reach Bounty Hunter (one of our regular and preferred players) couldn't again so he temporarily banned the IP to stop the CPU maxxing and game lag across all games. Once Bounty Hunter was made aware of the situation he corrected whatever he was running that caused the lag and was immediately (less than 1 hour) reinstated.

We have seen this problem one other time with a planet buy out switch ownership script. Whenever lag occurs that makes the board unusable for all other players in all other games we will be taking the appropriate and minimum steps to correct the problem if possible. In this case the ONLY way I knew of was to stop the auto relog of the inadvertent offender. Since Sage didn't know of another way either I went with his suggestion when he called me.

If anyone has any positive information as to this problem and a more expeditious methodology for elimination or correction let me know.

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Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:10 pm
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quote:Originally posted by U.N. Owen

First off we LOVE BOUNTY Hunter second off the way to tell which node is using up ALL your resources, if it ever happens, is to to disconnect the tw2002 node of the player using up all the CPU usage and then at the same time watch which player simultaneously drops from the TWGS. It may take a few times if you have a lot of users.

If that user has an auto relog script say like TWXProxy and the SAME user keeps logging back in and your usage keeps spiking coupled with players complaining about the lag you KNOW who the culprit is even though it is unintentional you still have to deal with it.

In this case Bounty Hunter says his messages were off (and of course we beleive him) Sage tried to reach him or his corpies in the game and couldn't. Sage then double checked the Game Log to verify that indeed he was correct in which user was autologging back in at the exact same time as the CPU was spiking.

Sage needed to stop the auto relog and CPU maxxing. Sage isolated for sure who was the cause called me on the phone reattempted to reach Bounty Hunter (one of our regular and preferred players) couldn't again so he temporarily banned the IP to stop the CPU maxxing and game lag across all games. Once Bounty Hunter was made aware of the situation he corrected whatever he was running that caused the lag and was immediately (less than 1 hour) reinstated.

We have seen this problem one other time with a planet buy out switch ownership script. Whenever lag occurs that makes the board unusable for all other players in all other games we will be taking the appropriate and minimum steps to correct the problem if possible. In this case the ONLY way I knew of was to stop the auto relog of the inadvertent offender. Since Sage didn't know of another way either I went with his suggestion when he called me.

If anyone has any positive information as to this problem and a more expeditious methodology for elimination or correction let me know.


A relog script would be one that could pose a problem with CPU usage. However, He would have to be relogging on another node as the past node was still active. Use a log on delay. This should help.

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Just to clarify one small point that might not be clear. Sage and I were SURE which node was using up the resources. Task manager will tell you. When you stop that process it will also drop a player the player it drops is the one using the resources. The Sysop has to watch this on the TWGS to see which player gets dropped. Once you have done this you are SURE who it is you cross check it in the game logs.

Therefore you KNOW who you aren't geussing. Sage also emailed the convo between himself and TBH's corpie where he confirms his attempt to reach them and she confirms that that was impossible.

Sage Yes, I'm here
MisBeh Hi there
MisBeh Hey my corpie is trying to relog back into game
Sage Hi...had a problem with bounty hunter
MisBeh and he cant get in.. its telling him "access deneid"
MisBeh what kind of problem???
Sage he was running a script that was shutting down the cpu
MisBeh oh wow
Sage 40% plus
MisBeh ok was he warned first before being kicked off?
MisBeh mabe he didnt know it was lagging the cpu
Sage I couldnt reach anyone on your corp....I have no problem unblocking him
Sage I just need that script to go away
MisBeh oh .. we are sorry
Sage for obvious reasons
MisBeh i will tell him not to run that particular script
Sage last night, the server was down for 8 hours
MisBeh No prob at all
MisBeh yeah I know. but he wasnt cashing then
Sage what script is it
MisBeh he was just building
MisBeh its a cashing script Xides
Sage please dont run it...I'll take down the server and unblock him
MisBeh I am talking to him on icq tellng himwhat u are saying
MisBeh I told him do not run it
MisBeh aklright
MisBeh ty verymuch
Sage it was nothing personal...I just couldnt reach anybody
MisBeh yeah I know sorry we cash with comms off
MisBeh lol all the fig hits suck


Hope this clears it up for everyone.

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Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:34 pm
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Each connection to the TWGS starts a new process called tw2002.exe. If someone is using a tremendous amount of CPU, you can lower the priority of that process. This lowers the user's CPU usage to a more fair level for the other players. Granted, if the user relogs in, it starts a new process but that is a partial solution.

It is also possible that the node was just screwed up and was hogging more memory that it should have.
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Thanks earth for that clarity, that is what I was trying to get to, you can't be sure it was the player him/her self, and if they log on again then the node moves. Then if it doesn't bug out then it was the node itself, and not the suspected player. But like I have also said,for the other sysops and players, if the server hosting the TWGS is used for other things as well, it may get bugouts in the TWGS on usage sometimes. But that depends on what is running on the server.

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And we all go back to ultimate for more fun.

You all must be masochist or something enjoy the abuse then come here to complain you would think by now everyone would have learned that unless you like having the sysop mess with your game to NOT PLAY THERE.

Jeez

If you play at ultimate and something goes wrong don’t come here anymore and cry you disserved it for placing yourself in the situation after you have been warned.

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quote:Originally posted by Speed Demon

And we all go back to ultimate for more fun.

You all must be masochist or something enjoy the abuse then come here to complain you would think by now everyone would have learned that unless you like having the sysop mess with your game to NOT PLAY THERE.

Jeez

If you play at ultimate and something goes wrong don’t come here anymore and cry you disserved it for placing yourself in the situation after you have been warned.


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