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<<<Ove nope.... but i've learned the game red..... learned to play blue second...
<<<Ove that was back in 93 thou
que grimey didn't you go to the recruiter the other day
Centau You know...your gonna have to pay for those mines!
DRAGON thats fine we have the cash
Centau Why can't we just all be friends?
Atlas all we are doing is trying to come over for lunch, turn thoses cannon off please
DRAGON we are just not in this game:) FRIEND
Centau lol
casper Quit staling and just doeveryone a favor and CBY!*'Macro has been ran and I was left at this prompt
casper This Macro Is FuberEd**'Macro has been ran and I was left at this prompt
DRAGON blah
Centau exactly my opinion
casper geek*'Macro has been ran and I was left at this prompt
casper geek'Macro has been ran and I was left at this prompt
Centau has been RUN
DRAGON yes
DRAGON my name is bot hello!!
Centau Now I'm being attacked with bad grammer
DRAGON no wait bud
DRAGON wait until i try to spell
Centau what did yall think of the triangle
DRAGON what triangle?
Centau Scifi channel...the movie "The Triangle"...was concluded last night
DRAGON oh i do not live in the US so i do not know anything about it
Centau where are you living
DRAGON mars
Centau seriously
DRAGON England
Centau a long time ago, I played on a tw board there...trying to remember the name
Centau OH MY GOD! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!! PUKE PUKE PUKE
Centau does the name kumanji or something like that ring a bell
DRAGON man that was slow
Charli did you get my last message about that bbs
DRAGON no
Charli I think the bbs in england was called kumanji or something like that
Charli tw server
Charli is the game lagging
<<<Ove took you long enough to answer
DRAGON cannot remember what one to type on?
<<<Ove hrmmmmm
casper dupey dupey doo!
<<<Ove no
<<<Ove well maybe
<<<Ove but he's using a different proxy then the other if he is
<<<Ove Other Owen will block it
<<<Ove errr otherwise Owen will bann his ip or both of him
<<<Ove But we have a Log of it and he can or they or what ever can think up of an excuse
<<<Ove And it will be brought to the sysop's attention
Centau chuckle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



This is a series of messages You tell me what you think is going on....

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quote:Originally posted by Overkill
[brCentau where are you living
DRAGON mars
Centau seriously
DRAGON England
Centau a long time ago, I played on a tw board there...trying to remember the name
Centau OH MY GOD! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!! PUKE PUKE PUKE
Centau does the name kumanji or something like that ring a bell
DRAGON man that was slow
Charli did you get my last message about that bbs
DRAGON no
Charli I think the bbs in england was called kumanji or something like that
Charli tw server
Charli is the game lagging
<<<Ove took you long enough to answer
DRAGON cannot remember what one to type on?
<<<Ove hrmmmmm
casper dupey dupey doo!


Gets interesting right there.

And I know the server he is talking about it shut down around 3 years ago but it was based in Australia.

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Now Now Speed Demon i left the Boards Name Off the record... But you get a cookie also if you can guess that....ROFL...

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It seems there are a lot of spelling/grammar mistakes, but I like this one best:

"Now I'm being attacked with bad grammer"

I think it is grammar not grammer. Good thing TW does not have a spell checker or grammar checker or else these dupes won't be found out when they make almost the same type of spelling/grammar mistakes.

Notice also that some players type in almost all lowercase and do not properly capitalize the first letter of each sentence, also almost no punctuation. I guess that is common when one is in a hurry to type before getting attacked or something? Still you'd think a smart dupe was smart enough to figure out how to type one dupe with lowercase only, another with the first letter uppercased, and yet another with punctuation so they can fool people into thinking that they are all different. If this is a dupe, he/she is not a very smart dupe and made it easy enough to spot.

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LMAO!!!! Good post.


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quote:Originally posted by Overkill

Now Now Speed Demon i left the Boards Name Off the record... But you get a cookie also if you can guess that....ROFL...


Well the reference to Owen in the post can only mean one server.

I believe it to be the one server that I would probably refuse to ever play on because of all the drama that has occurred in the past in reference to that peculiar server (this server was well known for dupers).

I’ll refrain from also posting the server name but I believe you owe me a cookie. :P

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uhm...boo haha

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quote:Originally posted by Speed Demon

quote:Originally posted by Overkill
[brCentau where are you living
DRAGON mars
Centau seriously
DRAGON England
Centau a long time ago, I played on a tw board there...trying to remember the name
Centau OH MY GOD! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!! PUKE PUKE PUKE
Centau does the name kumanji or something like that ring a bell
DRAGON man that was slow
Charli did you get my last message about that bbs
DRAGON no
Charli I think the bbs in england was called kumanji or something like that
Charli tw server
Charli is the game lagging
<<<Ove took you long enough to answer
DRAGON cannot remember what one to type on?
<<<Ove hrmmmmm
casper dupey dupey doo!


Gets interesting right there.

And I know the server he is talking about it shut down around 3 years ago but it was based in Australia.


Actually this area really interests me:
quote:Centau does the name kumanji or something like that ring a bell
DRAGON man that was slow
Charli did you get my last message about that bbs
DRAGON no
Charli I think the bbs in england was called kumanji or something like that


Centau started the thing about the kumanji server and
Charli finished the whole thing as if he were Centau,

to me it sounds like a dupe who forgot which screen he was on when asking the question and reiterating it. But that's just me,[:D]

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Twins


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No, not twins, but rather twits.

If twins, then it must be Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber.

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Deaths Freedom and freedom loving people everywhere NEVER die! They just resist in another format.
<<<Ove que have icq???
Deaths War is Politics through other means! ..Suntzyu
Deaths And for the record we dont get weaker we have virtually unlimyed fuel ore
<<<Ove you couldn't tell from the hits we are taking...
Deaths Que is NOT authorized to speak while he is refuelling planets
<<<Ove Darn you have be authorized to speak..... and you call us tyrannats.......
Centau Tyrants who dont know how to spell
Deaths We are an autonomous collective each with a function and each capable of perfrorming each others function. For this period I am the Authorized Comm Officer
<<<Ove well Cen atleast we aren't having to dupe...
Deaths Yes as usual with Trade warriors either they win OR the other corp is duping
<<<Ove Death Cen was caught yesterday...
<<<Ove It's posted at Eisonline Forums
que Twins
<<<Ove Yea...
<<<Ove right
Deaths I don't play with Dupes and I happen to speak LIVE to Centauri very regularly so what do you THINk you caught other than an STD?
<<<Ove well you defending him proves nothing then you support it
<<<Ove now either he's using 2 handles... and duping... or he was using a bot..
Deaths Theme from Final Jeopardy .... still listening for "Proof" Other then a blind unsupported accusation
<<<Ove and a bot wasn't his excuse yesterday
<<<Ove read the eis forums..
Deaths Still looking for proof surely you have more then your word
<<<Ove you tell me charlie aka whoever wasn't finishing Cen's questions
<<<Ove no i screen capped it
<<<Ove i keep logs sometimes
<<<Ove other then having access from the sysop to monitor IP's...
<<<Ove i could not show proof.... on that note the sysop has not ever returned my message on the subject at hand...
Deaths im goiung to give away a little MORE of our strategic advantage we talk on the phoene LIVE alot so it is not unusual for ONE of us to type something and fi
<<<Ove wait hold on
Deaths ... finish the comment live in voice ... Im looking for proof NOT one of severla plausible possibilities
<<<Ove you better read the forums..
<<<Ove we use voice also...
<<<Ove Cen asked a question from Dragon.... And Charlie picked up as if he asked the same question
<<<Ove Dont' Defend something that is a blant Duping..
Deaths I happen to KNOW both of these guys and have spoken to them voice well over a dozen times in centauris case well over 100 times they have differnt area cod
<<<Ove There's a difference then finshing a sentence...
Deaths area codes voices and points of view ... I await proof
<<<Ove only thing you are saying to me you are a dupe also and just trying to defend yourself... or that you support it
<<<Ove The screen cap blanlty caught Cen Duping..
<<<Ove or charlie...
<<<Ove whoever it was...
Deaths If thats all you got your wasting my time show me proof or withdraw the accusation I watched YOU and one of your corpies misspell the exact same word does
<<<Ove it might be 2 people but itwasn't 2 people signed in at the same time..
Deaths ... mean YOU and him are dupes MAYBE but it sure isnt proof this convo is OVER till you show ME proof
<<<Ove LOL....
Deaths ....
<<<Ove get upset alittle...
<<<Ove they must be duping..
Deaths Darn right Im upset yopu accuse people I KNOW and respect of unethical activity it UPSETs me I BACK my dfriends when they are right or MIGHT be right I cor
Deaths ....
<<<Ove it's ok this conversation can go up on eis also...
Deaths I correct them when they RE WRONg not when someonb tells me they have PROF and give me su****ion only
Deaths Not bad for a guy (me) who has to type with his nose eh?
<<<Ove su****ions??? like i said you read the forum.... you tell me what you would think from seeing it...
<<<Ove i'm not the only person that thought it was a dupe....
<<<Ove i'm not the only person that thought it was a dupe....
casper huh?
<<<Ove oh death is defending Cen and Charlie...saying there's no why they we duping yesterday
Deaths without even seeing the forums and going by what you have shown here I can "think" i can even "belive" but till I have PROOF i will support my friend (S) t
Deaths till the end
Deaths It is NOT what i said let me repeatr for the intellectually challenged I said "Untill you show me PROOF I will support my friends. " Clear enough
DRAGON i liked the part when they both got dumped at the same time yesterday when knowbody else did and came back on within 3 mins of eachother
casper Ahh you mean how they both dropped and signed back on at the same time? Or how they both talked about the same thing as one person?
DRAGON ya that one casper
casper Ahh ok
casper Sorry I came in the middle just wanted to make sure I knew what was being debated
Deaths You mena lo=ike when Overkill and eminem BOTH mispelled the sqme word the same way in successive sentences?
DRAGON also funny how the sysop does not do anything or have been here...but if it was your corp saying the same thing about us i bet he would be here
casper No more like the third letter in every other name is the same as the previous version of the same sentence.=)
Deaths caper we are debating the difference between PROOF and reasonable well founded su****ion.., One will egt yo watched the other will get you executed
DRAGON sorry he is a dupe for sure
DRAGON not going to change my mind
casper I can not say wether he is or isn't. I will say I beleive he is but that is as far as I can go
Deaths Not asking you too dont care if you do just dont make FALE claims that YOUR su****ion are irrefutable proof
casper If he is a dupe I would hope you would handle it death. I mean it is just a game no need to cheat on either side you know?
Deaths Oh and by the way Casper I AM AFMC , Ba (hons) Hist JD
DRAGON i agree casper
DRAGON your point?
casper Ok you lost me with AFMC.
Deaths we discussed that just before you cam on Overkill said he had PROOF I asked for it and have yet to see it
Deaths AFMC are MY initials
DRAGON http://www.tw-attac.com/TWForum/topic.a ... C_ID=19486
DRAGON go there
casper Ahh ok.
casper I understand why they would say it I saw the convo live. It was very su****ous.
casper I will say again that I hope your corp would handle this if it is something that happened
Deaths Im reading the alleged "Proof" as per Dragon's request ..
casper I think he is referring to how charlie asked if he got his message early except it was posted by the other not him
DRAGON i would not say alleged cause it is right there in black and white....the text of it
DRAGON also the same thing typed twice by the two different people "something like that"
DRAGON well same guy
Deaths thats what makes it an allegation .. . God I really hate dealing witht he intellectually challenged.. especially thiose who dont know
DRAGON hehe you make me LAFF!!
casper Well death honestly read the post and tell me it does not look like the same person when he said MY post earlier
Deaths I am casper as we speak
casper Centau does the name kumanji or something like that ring a bell
casper DRAGON man that was slow
casper Charli did you get my last message about that bbs
casper DRAGON no
casper Charli I think the bbs in england was called kumanji or something like
casper that
Deaths I read that ...
casper Thats where I had my interest peaked.
<<<Ove well he jsut doesn't want to say it looks like a dupe
<<<Ove no no...not his so called friends...
Deaths Finally an application of common sense ...
casper But charlie is refering to a post made by chetaue as "My" post
<<<Ove whom he talks to all the time on the phone
Deaths Im on the phone with ONE of them now wanna be conferenced in ?
DRAGON hehe even i can find two people to do that
<<<Ove get both of them on the phone hell get them on yahoo and we all can talk about this
casper I will say I am confused. If it is common sence then please tell us where we are wrong with our thought process
Deaths dragon I want to illustrate a point for you and ONLY you ...
Deaths "even I can find two peopl to do that" are you confessing to duping ? ( I think NOT ) Buty then WHY would you need to egt two poeple to do anything for ...
Deaths ... you ? That is rhetorical
DRAGON tell you what you "prove" to us they are not dupes and we will shut up
casper Why would someone refer to another post as "my"?
DRAGON until then they are and every one in at eisonline will have there opinion
casper That is not an answer to my question
DRAGON fed off
Deaths Sorry dragon it is well settled that you cant prove the negative. secondly I think you overvalue the importance of YOUR opinion since I for one so far ...
<<<Ove It's not his opion he's trying to bring to you...
Deaths disagree ... I will look into this and I can assure yo my investigative skills far outwight your collective lack of understanding of allegation vs. proof
<<<Ove it's everyone that has veiwed that post thing the samething we are saying...
<<<Ove HELL A SYSOP said it looks like a dupe to him
casper Haha your saying proof on a internet site. Now that is funny. !st I can spoof an IP address so there is no proof you can gather.
casper 2nd We don't know these people or wether they are for real or not (see 1st point)
<<<Ove but when you catch a person refering to himself as someone else...there's the proof.....
Deaths And do you have the support of any left handed ausralian midgets that would cinch it for me.
<<<Ove yea it's called google
casper I am a left handed australian midget
DRAGON ahh maybe he is a sysop from oz as well thats y
DRAGON where this site was before
DRAGON like speed said
<<<Ove well this site went down cause of cheating several years. ago....
<<<Ove i remember when it did.... never came here cause of what i heard...
<<<Ove still heard bad thing when i was invite now..
Deaths Thanks Casper you NOW have won me over (Please note the sarcasm) I am truly sorrry you ar vertically and seasonally challeged.
casper Thats your come back? Kind of weak
<<<Ove lol
DRAGON rofl
casper I still have a question on the table which you are refusing to answer.
Deaths well Im not aleays on my A game
casper apparently not
Deaths sorry casper I missed the question you have that Im compelled top answer?
casper Try again. I know you have it in you
<<<Ove where are Cen and Charlie now to defend themselves?? death you their mommy or something??
<<<Ove or can't type in 3 screens at once???
casper The question was why would someone refer to a post as "my" if it is not their post
Charli Death asked us not to type
Deaths Accusing ME of something bnow overkill
<<<Ove riiiiight...
<<<Ove so you can hit that alt+tab to switch windows...
Deaths well since you have decided to stop to yet another accusation against me I no longer wish t waste my time by by
<<<Ove presonally some accused me of duping i would be defending myself not letting puss do it for me
casper Yet you ignored my question yet again
casper so much for reposting it huh?
<<<Ove ROFL.... he can't answer that question casper.... for there in lies your PROOF!
casper Anyone from corp 1 care to answer it?
Deaths Sorry to go back on my own word but I really dont know the answer Casper I have been given one that is plausible but as I said before this conversation for
Deaths is over I have my own belifs on the subject BUT I dont yet have proof like your Omniscient corpies
<<<Ove It's not just us.....
casper Well if given a plausible explanation then share it so I can also see if I would agree with it.
DRAGON flat out your a ****!!
<<<Ove But this Conversation will be posted along with the other....
casper Well I have said I have not taken a position other then beleif on it so far
<<<Ove no it's possible... it's not possible also.... but from the excuse given yesterday i would believe it's true
casper I have been on corps accused of duping before. We produced the facts and showed we were not. that is all I ask for.
<<<Ove Casper you can't get an answer.....
<<<Ove Atleast not a truthful one..... that will answer you...
casper Well was hoping for a straight forward answer to it. Since it was a straight forward question.
<<<Ove Well we have options guys....
<<<Ove we have 99% of the universe figed...
<<<Ove we have ports to make a 1bil from resources a day and SSM the rest of the day...
<<<Ove we can stay here and play???
<<<Ove or we can go to a board we no duping is allowed...
<<<Ove hell the sysop won't answer me on this topic.... he is now offline...
<<<Ove isn't allowed...
<<<Ove if duping and T-editing is all they have for defenses...
<<<Ove well then i say we need to find a new board...
<<<Ove vulcan said he's connect is fine now..
<<<Ove and he's banging a new game...
casper you know I follow wherever you go over
DRAGON i will go with ya overkill
<<<Ove well let's ask bud and atlas...
<<<Ove otherwise we can CBY and blow everything...
DRAGON ok sounds good
Charli Can I come with you too??
casper you can answer my question
casper and yet gets quite again
Charli I'd rather help you group of idiots CBY
DRAGON bite me
Grim R you'd rather suck my nice big **** also.
casper yea we can compet without duping and we are idiots.LMAO love your logic
Charli I'll leave that to Casper
casper wow look he has graduated to third grade combacks
casper I know you are but what am I
Grim R i agree
DRAGON sticks and stones
Grim R captain casper lets annihilate lower scum Charlie
Grim R oh wait t#he anal driller never leaves the bubble.
casper oh well I will drag this board through the mud on EIS and Vulcans and deepsouth boards.
Charli All of you are conclusive proof that a monkey can mate with a water buffalo
casper oops now he is back down to kindergarten level
Grim R lmfao



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I was one also involved in this game (hence the casper lol) These guys were duped to no ends. I asked a straight forward question and got no answer to it. I have since CBYed in the game because I will not play with people like this. I also would suggest that others not play there either. They claim to have been winning the game (even with dupes) although we had more assets and controlled 99% of the universe. But, I think death is the sysop (just a thought of mine no proof) so I would suggest everyone stay clear of this board and these players in there. Many posters know me on here and have played against or with me before so you will all know I don't jump to conclusion very easily on cheating. I try and give the benifit of the doubt all the time.

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Well I still think there is a dupe in there, or sysop. Well anyway, how it all comes out who knows, hehe, and the way he was belittling others for spelling, and he was worse at it than who he was putting down. Jeez. someone get him a spell checker for Christmas.

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I usually never respond to forum posts about what I feel should be internal issues, however, at the suggestion of certain well known players and game ops, I will be responding in this instance and in the future, whenever my board is wrongfully mischaracterized.

First Off, we have posted rules and they are at http://www.ultimatetw.com under games. We also have a Forum where all player have access and are invited to contact us in the event of a problem.

Regarding this specific game, Game H, Both major corps BROKE several of the rules. One corp specifically asked that No action be taken against the other corp, who had used IG's during the truce period, as well as other violations such as denying players access to stardock, etc.

It came to my attention from players in Corp 1 that they felt ONE of their OWN members was duping.
I confirmed it and immediately upon confirmation, notified the offending team that the game would be rebanged and the NON-offending team would be awarded the game win, which has been posted in our forums. When I checked the game logs however, it did NOT reveal that either character was using the same IP. I checked with the individuals in question directly, and THEY admitted to the scheme to give them a competitive advantage. As a result, the offending character has been deleted.

I was able to ascertain the following:

1. That a regular player used the password and account of another regular player to make it appear that his corp had more players online then they actually did. while he was doing this he would talk in fedcom using both accounts at the same time to give the appearance of greater strength.

2. That the other player was not in fact playing in the game

I have read the post on EIS regarding this matter several times and take issue with one particular thing!
This was NEVER, I repeat NEVER, brought to my attention by any one OTHER THAN THE OFFENDING TEAM THEMSELVES!

The team that posted this complaint on EIS NEVER CONTACTED ME about this issue!

Now to the game F issues.
One player made representations that he had permission to use multiple accounts all at once.
I recieved 2 emails and 2 ICQ messages about this issue. I entered the game made contact with the offending player checked the game logs to confirm spoke to him and his son to confirm certain details after that conversation I deleted several characters from that game. I then notified those that had brought this to my attention.

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