I want to personally apologize to Harley and everyone else who was subjected to Jesters comments last night. He was totally in the wrong yet wanted to put everything on my shoulders. The Game Rebang forum was NOT the proper place for what he was saying.

Again, my apologies to everyone who was subjected to it.

I would like to clear this up exactly as it happened. ( Day one.) Jester joined in Ahabs game and was being aggresive in the start and was repremanded. I then came into the game and joined jesters corp and jester told me not to attack or invade any of the other players sectors because there was some sort of truce. We built our home sector only to be able to grab around 400k colonist, no problem thats how it goes in dayone. (Day 2) Our third corp member happend to be ill and didnt go to work. He came on to find Ahab who was on Corp 1 and all his ohter corp mates draining terra because ahab had reloaded terra while he and his corp members were on and happend to be in the game at the same time. My corp member grabbed what he could for colonist. My other corp member had words with ahab during the time because he felt that this was unusual for a sysop to be loading terra while he(the sysop Ahab of corp1) and all of his mates where on draining terra. I posted a note on the daily log and asked if that could be considerd fowl play or cheating if you will. That evening i and Jester ran a script offered by WILDSTAR, his explore script. Jester ran into a newbies mines and planets and sector figs that were located in a 6 way warp in open space not a dead end. Jester posted a note on the daily log appologizin for running into it for fear of Ahabs unclear rules. I was running WILDSTARS explore script when I also ran into corp 3 sector figs and planets and was podded. I did not return to the sector but did start WILDSTARS EXPLORE script in a new ship. I then ran into another sector that corp 3 was building but survived, I did not return to the sector.
(day 3) I happened to get home early in the afternoon from work because it was slow only to go into Ahabs game only to find Ahab and his corp grabbing all the colonist while we were away again. I then questioned him why this was happening and he got angry saying I was calling him a cheater. He was also saying we invaded the other corps sectors but i told him what happened and he was very angry and was threatening to band me. I had left WILDSTARS EXPLORE script running through the morning befor and didnt realize my time was expiring while talking to him. He made me think he was banning me and I believed he had. I then came on as another character, which i know is duping but i didnt do it to cheat but only to dispute him he then banned me. My other corp member came on later that evening to find out only that our home sector had been invaded and taken and all of our corp members where killed i violation of AHABS rules according to AHAB. He did not ban his freinds for doing what we had been accused of doing but did not do.
I have been having words with AHAB about his actions because i think it is unfair of his loading colonist while all of his corp is on as wel as he to take advantage of the game. I find it unfair that he would accuse us of foul play without investigating. I find it unfair of him to set rules that are unclear and made up daily and let his buddies break the rules to their advantage. This is an accurate explanation of what happened the daily logs can be read to confirm this deceat that Ahab is spewing. P.S. WILDSTARS EXPLORE SCRIPT rocks

Thanks for the plug elcapitain.
1 thing to remember about the Unexplored Scout Script is once you have scanned a sector,It won't go there again unless it is on the way to another sector.But if a populated sector is in a deep bubble or dead end,should be cool.
<Cheap Plug>
Download scripts at Grimys

Sigh, the problem that simply won't die. Ok, I will TRY to explain this in terms even the village idiot could understand.

Yes, Day 1 went off pretty much as elcaptain stated except for I have no idea who got how many colonists nor did I care. Terra was drained of 10 mil critters in the first day. Now before I explain that part, let me preface it by saying I live in South Florida. I get up out of bed 7 am and usually am back in bed between 11 and midnight. When I left the game there were plenty of critters on Terra but at some point Terra was drained. So, I get a couple of messages when I got up the next morning saying Terra was empty and, as is my custom in the easier games, I refilled Terra. At that point my Corp (Corp 1) did not have even the first planet, which left Corps 2 (Jabezz), 3 (Kaboom) and 4 (Jester). Yes, I refilled Terra but we (Corp 1) STILL had not the first planets so I found a little tunnel and made 10 and yes, started grabbing some for ourselves. All the while, Corps 2, 3 and 4 were also getting their share.

Afternoon of Day 2 I made a comment that 20 mil critters in 2 days gone on my server had to be a record. After I said this, Jester said that his corp had 20% of the available colonists so I asked him how HE knew how many the other people had and he said he was just going by what they had and then I made the statement that heck, I was the sysop and even I didn't know who had what. Nor did I care. I simply refilled Terra again.

Now comes the fun part. I had to leave for awhile then when I came back I read the log to find that player Leroy (hag) had posted an announcement that I was cheating. I did NOT take kindly to that nor did I take kindly to the next 3 announcemnts by Tyrone (Jester) reaffirming that I was cheating. So, I talked until I was blue in the face and was called a liar and a cheat. So I banned Tyrone and Leroy. I refuse to stand for the abuse and since they wouldn't stop, they went bye bye. Let me say this then I will move on to the next point raised. After I banned these 2 I have gotten very rude and very crude e-mails calling me everything but white and a man. Now this is NOT the way to make friends nor influence people.

Before all this came up, I tried getting this Corp to move out of the novice game as they were much too good for those kids and go off to the B, D, F, G or H games which are put there for the more advanced players, something they flat refused to do. I guess taking out noobs is their favorite sport and they didn't want to stop. Now, that being said, I don't ask who is using what kind of script so what Wildstar's script does I haven't a clue.

Now, the invasions that never happened. Using Wildstar's script 4 sectors of figs and mines were taken out. These 4 sectors were the lead sectors of a bubble Corp 2 was building in and the CEO of Corp 2 complained to me about it. Then Corp 3's area got hit. Now Kaboom, CEO of Corp 3 did NOT complain about it he just took things into his own hands. I didn't like it but he was attacked first so he retaliated. And Day 2 was when I banned Tyrone and Leroy. Yesterday, Day 3 DsWayne, another member of Corp 4 decided to go around planet dropping players and blowing the Class 0 port at Terra as well as Stardock and DaWayne I can only presume due to my actions with Tyrone and Leroy.

All that being said, and the same things being answered in the e-mails i've gotten from them all I am being called is a liar and cheat.

I would much rather lose those people who make life difficult for everyone else rather than lose players who simply want to play and learn what they're doing DEFORE going into games that have no restrictions on them. To date I have lost well over a dozen of said players.

So. Whether you believe me or elcapitain doesn't matter to me, It's been my experience that people will believe what they want to believe no matter what is put in front of them. If you don't like the way I do things on my server, stay away. There are plenty more out there.

This is the LAST I will say about this.

My only comment is thats its basically never a good idea for a sysop to play on his/her own server. It will ALWAYS cause problems and acusations of cheating, usually sooner rather than later.

My playing in my own games has never caused any problems to date. Just in this one game.

And look at the problems its caused. Now that its widely known that you do play in your own games, don't be surprised to see more of this. Regardless of whether or not you cheat, those you defeat will always suspect. Sometimes it breaks out into the sort of behavior we've seen here recently, sometimes it doesnt - but the doubt is always there. Its a claim that can't really be supported, but its also one you can't truly vindicate yourself of.

There are many great servers out there, you shouldn't have any problems finding places to play. If theres a particular custom set of edits you run, many sysops are willing to bang custom games, so you could stick with the edits you like.

Its your server, and of course you're free to run it the way you see fit, including playing your own games if you choose to. Ask around though, it often causes more trouble than its worth. Read through the archives, see how many complaints of cheating sysops there are.

3 things I have always known about Ahab's server.

1.) He plays in his own games under the name Ahab
2.) He likes to fill the critters on terra when there depleted.
3.) It's a server that caters to the newer player.

I agree that playing on your own server can cause problems but as I listed above it has always been this way on his server.

<laughing> Those I defeat? I don't defeat anyone, I'm usually on the losing end of things. Yeah, there's been a few draws but that's more by mutual consent rather than anything else. And thanks, Speed for speaking up. I know the hazards of playing on my own server which is why I go to great lengths to keep things on the up and up. ANY Sysop who plays in Tedit to slant things in his favor is cutting their own throats.

quote:Now, the invasions that never happened. Using Wildstar's script 4 sectors of figs and mines were taken out. These 4 sectors were the lead sectors of a bubble Corp 2 was building in and the CEO of Corp 2 complained to me about it.

If I understand this correctly. That corp has 4 sectors exposed to open space. This may indicate they are not really in a bubble or they expanded way to far out of their bubble. So the fact that all 4 got hit by the explore script is there own fault.
Even if this is a newb game, it's still their fault, not the fault of those running the explorer. Because I know Wildstar wouldn't build a script dumb enough to barrel through someones front door.

Ahab, bring your New players to game H, ill help them with what little i know, and let them build up and learn the game. in too
many games, setup for noobs, average players come in and trash it!
GOOD players ive seen dont go to noob games, or imedetly help.
and seldom play the BLAME GAME, and the players one notch above
noob always do! IMO in a noob game its ok to Fill TERRA, but in an
advanced game it not the norm. and as for players BAD behavier, if
a sysop askes a player to be cool, for any reason! the player should
do it or move on. Ahab is not the only TW server out there and i dont think hes twisting players arms to play!!! and for some reason
thay come to EIS to whine and Cry and think everyone is going to read their "I've Been Wronged Speach" and try to shut down that TW server. rarely have i see that happen![B)]

I think player lose sight that its the sysop's paying the
internet bill, and we as players are getting a free game!

Just some feedback.

Always refill terra at a predetermined time, with at least 12 hours of notice. Any time you just "do it" you will have problems.

Jhereg

Jhereg how you doing i heard you got t-boned? sorry to hear that!

as I'm I Jh, glad to hear all is well,
Sys op playing on his own server, well it's his money that paid for all, Personally don't care for it
" The Power of the Dark Side " ...lol But he can do as he wants.
but not sure if I've played on Ahabs server b4 or not, but if I did, I never seen a problem.
Terra 20 mil in 2 days, seen worse, planets must be ftr makers.
IF there is a truce Rules should be stated, on what is not allowed, found ways around em b4.
heh not sure how ur sector got overloaded with planets...lol
too many scripts blind gettin to where thier going, if not in a dead end should be fair game
and JH has a point if terra is being reloaded daily, set a time and do it then everyday that will stop that aguement

Well, as I've said. I load Terra when I wake up in the morning, usually 7-7:30 am, sometimes a tad later but it's the way it's always been. In the advanced games, I fill Terra at the beginning of the game and then the players are on their own. If that means players are invaded for their critters, then so be it. I figure by the time players move on to the higher levels of play they know what their doing and SHOULD be able to fend for themselves.

And yes, those particular planets ARE fig makers so that 20 mil in 2 days went really doesn't surprise me, nor does it matter. I'd just made the comment that it was a new record <laughing>