quote:Originally posted by Gualala

Casper, you wouldn't have wanted to play in the game anyway. Your corp was caught cheating. Bug use WAS listed in the rules.

Out of curiosity what bug was used. Please keep it to EIS recognized bug, and not something that you or another player doesn't like the way it worked.

Jhereg

quote:In addition to the others who have posted here, I also recommend to members here on this forum not come to ice9 to play.

I recommend you don't post anything about your board in these forums. Unless of course it's to let us know that you will be serving Tea and crumpets during intermissions.[:D]

Zoso

The Gold Alien Bug. We were letting the Aliens fill up our planets... I mean, come one, why waste the turns when you can hire out the work? That's what America is founded on, isn't it? Gualala, I only have one comment, you are the biggest baby of Trade Wars. You actually cried to the Sysop? You were free to do the same as us, so why didn't you? The game was done, over, the game was closed and the rules were null and void. You go and cry to the Sysop and end it for everyone. Nice. So if you're not happy, no one else can be happy either. It's all about Gualala. "Ahem, attention on deck, the new owner of ICE9, Gualala" Go get a kleenex Gualala, stop wiping it on you sleeve.

quote:We are happy to have provided you the environment to re-learn the game while not geting killed the first time you tried to buy a ship at star dock. However, we are estactic that you have now re-learned TradeWars and are ready to move on. Good Luck in your new ventures.

For not being the sysop I do sense you do run the board with all the WE's in there. Or at least dictate.



quote:In addition to the others who have posted here, I also recommend to members here on this forum not come to ice9 to play.

I do not think that is going to be a problem, well maybe to come and harrass you only.(innocent look).

Bethel

Shazam, I was all for using the same bug against you. However the rest of my corp threatened to quit if I did. Filling up a planet with 5 million (yes 5) units of ore in under 2 minutes by aliens who are not getting it from the ports they are trapped in I guess is not considered a non-bug by them. For the record, Jack the Ripper (Wiley)and Butch Roland, (who is too disgusted to even converse with you), are the ones you will want to complain to about the game ending. It is due to their unwillingness to cheat that the game has ended. As for whining? You have done more than your share. Have another drink. Let it go. You started your own board, Concentrate on making it work. I hear you have silly rules too.

To the players of ICE9 game B, for the record concerning the early closure of this game due to cheating by bug use by corp 1 and 12. There was some debate as to if this was or was not a bug. I searched long and hard on the topic and found no conclusive official post ether way. I contacted John Pritchett on this matter and here is the final result.

It is not intended behavior. In my design, I clearly intended for the
level of defense to correlate with the amount of product/credits on a
planet. There is obviously a bug here. I consider this important
enough that I will be releasing a new revision to fix it. As soon as I
can devote the time to it (hopefully very soon) I'll get this taken care
of. Until then, the best way to avoid this is to keep your alien
presence light.

--
John Pritchett
Epic Interactive Strategy
http://www.eisonline.com
http://www.tradewars.com

AnyJoe2000,

While I am not stating that the above is correct or not. JP has never posted this information, despite it coming up often in the forums. In addition, we have heard nothing on any new releases short of V4.

Jhereg

I am not in the habit of posting fictitious information, for that matter I rarely post in here at all. My suggestion to you or anyone else who suspects the validity of the reply from him that I posted here is to write and ask him yourself. His email address is posted in every Trade Wars game running as you enter the game. Better yet here it is jpritch@eisonline.com. Your correct he never has posted this information, thats why I asked him. As far I'm concerned this matter is now closed and at least on ICE9 the gold alien bug is officially a bug.

KK

Jher,
Don't count on JP stating it's a bug or not in public. Historically, EIS doesn't make known bugs public until they are already fixxed.

FWIW, I think it's a bug, but then ANYTHING involving a gold alien is going to be buggy IMHO. It's been a while since I played around with gold aliens, but the last time I spend any real time messing with them, I got freaked out by their exploitable behavior, and now I won't play in any game with gold aliens. I will play with internal Ferrengi or alien traders, but gold? no no no no. The potential for abuse is too great. Wanna grid? Make the aliens do it for you. Wanna invade someone on-line? Have the aliens lead the charge. Wanna make money? Have the aliens do it for you. Want ore? Want figs? etc... Granted, it takes some help from the sysop to set them up incorrectly...

Before the bang of the next game, the members of the Ice9 board will be serving Tea and Crumpets. Nuff said

quote:Originally posted by anyjoe2000

To the players of ICE9 game B, for the record concerning the early closure of this game due to cheating by bug use by corp 1 and 12.


Anyjoe,
I won't debate you about this fact, considering there are many different opinions on the Gold Alien "Advantage", but while you are here and posting would you mind explaining to us (Corp 1&12) what role Gualala plays on your board and how you allow someone to pose as a REGULAR player and Mismanage game B by acting RUDE and threatening other playeres with being T-edited or having their passwords reset? Not to mention him "Clairifying" your rules and yelling at people for invading others who have had over 120 days to build up? In my opinion your rules are very Generic and having a PLAYER enforce your rules while PLAYING with everyone else is completely Asinine.

Nobody likes having rules dictated to them from a player that they are competing against.

quote:Originally posted by Traitor

Jher,
Don't count on JP stating it's a bug or not in public. Historically, EIS doesn't make known bugs public until they are already fixxed.

FWIW, I think it's a bug, but then ANYTHING involving a gold alien is going to be buggy IMHO. It's been a while since I played around with gold aliens, but the last time I spend any real time messing with them, I got freaked out by their exploitable behavior, and now I won't play in any game with gold aliens. I will play with internal Ferrengi or alien traders, but gold? no no no no. The potential for abuse is too great. Wanna grid? Make the aliens do it for you. Wanna invade someone on-line? Have the aliens lead the charge. Wanna make money? Have the aliens do it for you. Want ore? Want figs? etc... Granted, it takes some help from the sysop to set them up incorrectly...


Lol, in my opinion, when you write code that doesn't work to begin with, you can't say one small part of it is a bug. In general as you said above, Alien Gold is broken. Always has been. That is why i question "the planet filling" as a bug, but not the rest. People have complained about it for a long time, now suddenly, when one person complains, JP has a fix coming right away.

The best fix to aliens has always been, don't use them.

Jhereg

Jhereg, While I didn't see the e-mail anyjoe wrote, judging by the wording in the response, it appears he didn't "complain" but rather "asked" an opinion. Maybe no one tried that. I don't know, Just guessing. I can assure you, had anyjoe "known" about the bug with the aliens they wouldn't have been used in the game. I would encourage you to ask JP these questions yourself so you won't have to rely on opinions. Your advice to not use the aliens as long as this "problem" exists is the most reasonable and sound advise to be found on this subject.

quote:ANYTHING involving a gold alien is going to be buggy
Alien farming has been a known bug for some time know. I personally am not sure how to accomplish it, but i have been in contact with other players that speak of having used it.
quote:Before the bang of the next game, the members of the Ice9 board will be serving Tea and Crumpets. Nuff said
LOL, nice [:P]

Zoso

I know the ins and outs of planet farming, but it is a bug IMO
I dont do bugs in games, or cheat.
and im not going to explane how the bug works, so those who want
to exploite this bug, ask your buddy with no scrouples.