Deleted by author, I regret posting at all in this forum. My apologies to Vader. I apparently have nothing of value to contribute to discussions here.

Well, I can't say for sure, as I haven't asked Vader. But I know that you can have various formats to the same idea. I would never play the SGO monopoly edits, too many aliens. I'd be fine just having the planets named that. So he may be building a game he thinks his players would like. That is not a nock SGO, just not my style of game.

Jhereg

Here's a novel idea SGO, why not get some facts before you make a dumbass of yourself in public. That particular tidbit has been on the website since December. Monopoly was a game idea that I had about a year and a half ago, but never developed. Back around Jan-Feb, I had a long conversation with Acid when he was developing his Monopoly game. I've by and large abandoned Monopoly in favor of other games. If you knew a few facts, you'd also know that I have about 26 or 27 games in various stages of development on my "work" TWGS. I have never nor will I ever rip off someone else's game idea. In fact, I've helped develop other people's game and then advertised and ran em on my TWGS for them. I do believe if you're going to attack someone else's character, perhaps have some clue before you begin.

Heh, the nerve of you vader, trying to rip off a trademark that SGO ripped off first fair and square

Hehe, I'm glad someone caught onto that. Nightstalker (Acid's husband) made that game 6 months ago.

You know why it wasn't mentioned? Most people don't get wound up about nothing, like this. Also, not everyone posts their game edits online. I have exactly 3 edits out of 20+ online anywhere. Its a freakin game edit, give over yourself.

You're a funny guy. And how exactly do you know how much time I put into my edits? The difference I see, I put my time into the EDITS and not in ANSI files. The people vote with their feet, by where the play.

i was talkin to bone one day and decided i would create poker edits, i sent them out. bone has a poker game (of his design i believe) on his site now. who made theirs first? no no no, correct question=who cares? its no big deal, its who's edits are better (bone, mine are better, hehe)
one night i was talkin to loki and we discussed the Blue Adept series, and i said i was gonna make some edits with them, he said bone was gonna make them long ago (dont think he did) but if i happen to get mine out first, i dont think he will say "hey slim, those are my edits, suck my nuts" heh. he will probably say "kick Butt, did you hear loki came out of the closet?" hehehe (you should hear those guys rip on each other, its hilarious)
anywho, its no biggie SGO, you definantly got vader beat on the ansi's, but as some people said, the edits maybe need fine touching, maybe try to incorporate your two idea's or maybe come out with two completely different sets of edits with the same theme. i made edits long ago, with the same theme, one for low turn games, and one for unlims. (as people have differant preferances). anywho, i think this is a pretty dam long post so ill apologize, heh.

Slim

SGO did you read vaders first post? I also have several edits in development but not bragging how good they are on the forums for 2 months and then get some one to bang it it fissles and get mad because i see some one else had the idea too. sheese you dont own monopoly ie harley's post???? and Vader said he wasn't even doing anything about it. If you would have icq'd vader ask what his game was like explain yours, he may have said something like hey with your good ansi skills and my edit skills maybe we could do a second monopoly game like call yours tw monopoly aliens, and the one you work together on monopoly 2 with no aliens. and just maybe being a gentleman instead of an Butt, he would bang both, give you kudo's and get much more traffic. The reason I say this could have happened is i have talked to vader. He is willing to work with newbie as well as experienced editors. WHY??? beause he wants tw to grow he wants his players happy there is enuff strife in this comunity with out the game editors at each others throat. Sorry for insulting you I am just pissed off. just my rant for the day <shrugs>
Lets play nice. ***10 min time out in the corner for tw55****

Okay, since it seems to have degenerated into an argument. I'll join in because I am in a pissy mood.

1.) Aliens don't "thwart gridding scripts" they make is difficult for those who don't know grid theory. I can play in a game with, or without aliens, and still grid. One big difference, I don't like logging into 5k messages about alien hits. Some people do, good for them.

2.) Vader is right, people vote with their feet. Please have all those who have LOVED the edits please post and tell us.

3.) In your own little world you may view edits the way you do, but since I don't know any other editors who feel that way, that makes you the only person. So don't come down on others for not having your views. Wasn't that the Nazis?

4.) I get so tired of hearing the scripters complaint. So SGO how big is your universe in that game? And nobody runs Swath or any type of helper or script? Yah right. I'll bet all the players are scripters. Heck how about this, lets play a game sometime that is 20k sectors, no helpers/no scripts. It would take forever!!!! And not many people like that either. Epicenter made a stupid comment in a game about how he couldn't grid because of photon scripts. Well jeez oh petes, any idiot who tries can get around a script. I don't know a single script out there that doesn't have a hole that can't be overcome. it is the nature of a script to be blind to certain tricks.

Jhereg

yea guess i was right in my take on you, dont play well with others because the whole world is against you. its my monopoly game and if i dont get the horse i am taking it home. there are several game editors that work together on games. hell some even take suggestions from lowly players for edit changes. but the bottom line is you don't comprehend. vader said he has been working on one but not for a long time. he did not get on his site and ***** and complain you took his idea. and he surely didnt on here. no doubt he figured if your edits were any good people would play them. he could care less he has his own stuff to take care of. Even if the throngs of people didnt come to your game you may have a niche of players that will want to play it. you complain about the players using scripts and advetise a game to stop them and wonder why they dont throng to the game. why i am going to bother to write any longer here i dont know.

I like to play red games so some one advertises he is banging 2 games one to favor reds and one to favor blues. guess what game I want to play????? comprehend yet? <shrugs>
TW55 (Banging head on keyboard) doh doh doh

SGO - you need to relax. It's not like anyone is taking your edits and saying they're their own. It's like all the different Star Wars edits out there. No one *****es because someone else make a Star Wars themed game. It's what you run into when you theme a game on something else. Quit whining about it. Sheesh.

Ok I am gonna throw my 2 cents in here whether anyone wants to read them or not oh well. I was under the assumption that you could have more than one set of edits for a specific "game" I.E. Monopoly or Star Wars. I know I have played Vaders unlim version of Star Wars but have also seen several different versions of the same named game and the edits were totally different. Have you thought to ask Vader to see his edits to see if they even resemble yours...other than the names of ships and such...I see no reason why the same game can't be played with seperate types of edits...Maybe I am just wrong.

This post was meant in no way to put anyone down ... I was just speaking my thoughts er typing my thoughts.

S.

LOL ok this is getting to be a waste of time with you SGO.
PEOPLE TELL YOU ALL THE TIME THERE SIDE OF THINGS AND U CONTINUE TO TWIST REALITY TO FIT YOUR OWN PARTICULAR HALLUCINATION.
so listen to this and i dont give a rats butt how u perceive it.
edits of games ARE USED by the sysop of the server there run on.
anyone can make a game to be named anything they want and to have what ever they want in it. if its like one you have tough ****.
this ability and right was given to every sysop who bought a copy of twgs from jp. but and untill you own the copyright to the software there is nothing you can do about it, and no way you can claim you own any part of the software called tradewars 2002 or its variants. And that is about as clear as it gets.

Ok, who wound up SGO again? Everybody just say "yes, you're right.." and the posts will stop