AeSoo maybe ye should have not posted it in Smack.

I have to agree with an earlier post, that the game is over is when you are tired of playing it and the competition is MIA. Locking the game down such as was suggested by doing a ship buyout and blowing SD is one way and probably the last challenge in the game at the end stage. I am currently in a game that has gotten to the point of only two corps left and my corp has 2/3 of the game's figs and around 7k sectors figged. A 20k sector game and only 5 players (yes 2 of us against 3 of them) pretty much makes it pointless - no head-to-head attacks or invasions when the other corp is online, just robbing and trading going on. The game is at the point of no longer being fun so I think it is over for me, and time to concentrate on an active game where I can #SD# someone or have a good chance of getting #SD# myself. Who wins? I really don't care - I am playing for the fun of it - and the adrenaline rush that goes with a clean pod ..... at the keys so I can receive the message of "wthu do that 4?".... (wth is the "clean" version).

So after all of this rambling, if you think you win, you won - if someone else comes in and blows everything up after you have left and they feel they won, fine. You had your challenge and maybe someone new to the game had a chance to learn something w/o getting blown up before they could even attack a planet, and then they can come talk trash to you here in the forums and a new rivalry <sp> will form.

               / Promethius / Enigma / Wolfen /

"A man who has no skills can be taught, a man who has no honor has nothing."

quote:Originally posted by LOWKEY

The sad part is my corp WHOOPED your Butt in lotto 2003. Don't member that?? I killed YOU. Now say what ya will YOU have NEVER podded me. You claim to be good yet there is no I in team and your TEAM is the only thing making YOU any good. As for unlims if ya so good and know how to handle yourself so well then why have I NEVER seen you WIN one. Hell I meant a deathmatch like the one bc puts on sunday. You dont even run wssm dumass. If you do your a moron. As far as gridding I have a VERY efficient gridder ask your corpie hoggy. Or the three corps that suffered a massive gridding assault by us in shootout. As for me stepping up I can show ya caps of your pod going poof. Do YOU have one of me???? STFU diddy and go map some ****. The point is this is the SMACK forum, not your professional TWARS discussion area. Any one with a smart remark, no point remark, silly childish remark may make them here. You putting people down is my point. You bash someone for posting irrelevant stuff yet this is the irrelevant stuff part of this forum. BTW no one called into your mapping/keeping track of data skills into question here. You ARE capable of that. As far as thinking is concerned I'm starting to believe your thought processes are a weird tangle of self obsessed narcisitic bow before me I wish I had a life besides thinking about putting people down web of intrigue that NO one wants to hear about. As far as OFFLINE invasion if ya like em so much YOU are in the minority there, sorry if that's a news flash. It's a sad way to lose a game. You should know I'm sure you were AFK when we wiped your Butt outta lotto. You haven't even played my corp but ONCE with your current team. You are just mad cuz you can't play uso 2004 cuz ya ended it so quick ;P, and now no one comes to games you guys play cuz they don't want a repeat. I have played almost every major since lotto 2003. I have done decent in each. How's that for a unlimer? I saw your CORP in all of them, but you weren't a factor since you weren't on THEIR team. As for game mechanics didy please. I been playing this game longer than you, and it isn't hard to read, ANYTHING you want to know is at your finger tips. Don't try to bash unlimers cuz they go in and WSSM and ore up planets. Isn't that game mechanics???? Wouldn't YOU do the same???? I'm sure your highly evolved brain has prolly come up with a new method to play unlims, but until you reveal it to us I'm sure the unlimers will continue to pound macros ha, and ssm. I'm sorry to say this but you have no argument here. My stupidity is beyond a doubt NONE of your concern nor can you correct it so why bother pointing it out in this area of the forum. My gameplay speaks for itself and my posts apply IMO EVERYTIME ;P. On a final note LEAVE people alone or you might find yourself ALONE ;P Wise words from some wise man I'm sure.



OMG - you are bragging about winning a LOTTO game? You have got to be kidding. That's as lame as traitor bragging that he gridded 200 sectors and found our planets after we had cby'd.

Either way, I'll not argue the point that your team is probably the best corp out there that plays both unlims and turns - Our corp doesn't play unlims for a variety of reasons, primarily because we just don't find them enjoyable. That being said, we have played Damage Unlimited many many times in a variety of low-turn settings, and have pounded you repeatedly. For supposedly being a great 'killing' team, you sure didn't impress us much when playing gangsters or killer instinct. I think we've beaten you guys at least 2-3 times each in those edits. Chess, we've dominated you every single time you've played with us, the lone exception when we both decided to stop playing. Shrug, finding wins against you guys doesn't take a lot of time.

As for me playing and winning unlims, I don't bother to play unlims unless someone asks me to come in and assist, and I usually decline. I won't brag about winning those, as my earlier post suggested, most of the time they are newbies. All you gotta do is probe deadends and you find 99% of them on the first pass. Whoopie. I've not to my knowledge, ever played in an unlim with Damage Unlimited having a corp in it.

As far as you playing the game longer than I - of what relevance is that? I know many people who have played the game longer than I who are still completely ignorant about many facets of the game; I am sure you do too. My conclusions with respect to your understanding of the game are strictly based on your actions. Predictable, easy to beat, and honestly, simple minded.

Now, I agree, my corpies are all top players. We make each other better, and continue, IMO, to get better and better as a corp. My corpies have without a doubt done much to elevate my game play over the past year (mebbe less). There are not many players who are fortunate enough to have mentors as skilled as I have had. I think TW would be much more competitive if some of the newer players were able to learn under my corp mates. I personally, do what I can to help other people get better, and am always looking for ways to improve myself as well.

Offline invasions are part of the game; Many corps fall victim to them as a result of the time of day or night that we happen to locate them. We're certainly not going to wait for them to come back to keys to invade them. We invade when we the enemy and are reasonably certain that one of two things will happen. 1) we have the resources to do some significant damage, or 2) we are certain the other team is not real smart and will gladly shoot corbomite or tholian ships. Most of the time when we play you guys, its both.

USO4 is done and over with. To your credit, your team was the only one who played with both the competance and urgency to survive the first 2 hours. The rest of the corps either had no chance to win, or were just flat out lazy. I would have enjoyed playing the edits out for a longer period of time, and I understand the frustration some people have about what happened. That being said, our corp plays to win games as quickly as the edits allow without cheating. That is how we play. Others play for a variety of reasons, and we're not saying those are bad reasons. It's just not our way.

I'd like to conclude this ****ting match by acknowledging that we do in fact, have different game settings preferences; As our corp doesn't play unlims, you may safely say your team is the best unlim corp out there. We play low turns, and I think it is safe to say that at the moment, we have by far the best turns based corp. I still think posting 'YAWN' everywhere is similar to just being a forum troll, and contributes nothing. You have the freedom to post it everywhere, and I certainly have the freedom to say it's stoopid. Why get so riled over that?

The SAD part diddy with your superior brain power etc...... you can't recall LokI didn't play in ANY of the above mentioned games. KI, gangsters, chess, or any others ya listed diddy. ONE game you have played I was with my corp. Don't OVER exagerate that OK? ONE game as I said have I been there. I didn't say your game play in uso was anything more then great if ya reread that post. You as well as everyone else was prolly VERY impressed with the ease of victory etc. You have done nothing but proven my points here. Bragging??? Where did I brag? I said we whooped your Butt, not OMG bow before me we won lotto. I stated the fact that you got your Butt handed to you in a game by me. See my point a lil clearer now? Braggin is sayin I am better than you because I beat you in lotto. Which I didn't say. I said you got your Butt handed to ya making a point as to the fact that I handed YOU your Butt. YOU have not as to date handed LokI his Butt. Corps aside you don't insult someone like me for making silly comments here period. It is useless. I mean you can, but it only makes me wanna do it more to piss ya off lol. As for me playing this game longer than you the relevance is VERY clear. Someone who has extended game play knowledge can do anything you can. I'm sorry I realize now you think you are far superior to anyone I know, but it just isn't that way diddy. Anyone can be as good at game mechanics as you. There is NOTHING you know that ANYONE else doesn't know. That is my point as far as how long our careers extend. You act like I'm a newb ha. Get it now? As for my game play AGAIN I state you have played me VERY lil diddy. So plz STFU. Your game play has shown me lil more than what mine has showed you to tell ya the truth. If you could site a single example that has relevance where you outshined/out game mechaniced on a solo type basis ANYONE, then I'll concede to your point that you are the Strategic GOD ya think you are. To conclude I don't think you have done ANYTHING here except continue to prove my points. You have very lil to say when it comes to my game play. You have no reason to put others down. You can't be ALL that you are without your team, neither can I. Your bragging is MUCH more obvious than my Supposed bragging and therefore it makes you look like exactly what I said about your thinking abilities. Im not riled btw, I just don't think anyone else can stand up to you. I will. You can't knock peeps that have no point here which you obviously didn't understand. Seems like ya get the point now.




LokI is powering up weapons systems!

"As for me playing this game longer than you the relevance is VERY clear. Someone who has extended game play knowledge can do anything you can. I'm sorry I realize now you think you are far superior to anyone I know, but it just isn't that way diddy. Anyone can be as good at game mechanics as you. There is NOTHING you know that ANYONE else doesn't know. That is my point as far as how long our careers extend. You act like I'm a newb ha. Get it now?"

you got my point!! good! you ARE a newbie loki - that was exactly the point. and ignorant statements like the above quoted display that fact quite handily.

quite frankly, the idea that podding someone somehow makes you better than them, ESPECIALLY in a pro-am style game, is at best ignorant. when i purposefully hit a fig so alexio warps in with his scount and macro kills my corbomite loaded merf, #SD#ing him, and just podding me, does that make him 'better' than I? you have very silly ideas about what makes a good player/corp. let me boil it down - good corps win against good competition. bad corps lose against good competition. your corp gets its Butt handed to it when it plays good competition.

i don't play solo games, because I dont really enjoy the game enough to do so. Most of the fun i have in the game is interacting and coordinating with my teammates. the only thing that has kept this game alive is the people who play it - its not really an outstanding game in and of itself. if you would like to play a turns-based one on one, just for the hell of it, i'd be interested. name the place and time.

I don't think i'm a TW GOD or some superior intellect. I just think you are stupid. I don't see what is so difficult to understand about that. If reminding you that your corp fails against good competition, like us, is bragging, then so be it. I still think you and your corp haven't proven anything besides your willingness to hit F1 as fast as you can. Remember that gangsters game when you guys shot 500k figs at our tholian, and I posted about it on shipdestroyed.com? lol. yes, that was you! yes, that was your corp that we stomped on. i remember even back then, the way you played the game made me laugh out loud.

Oh - and like it or not, when faced with competition that you can't eliminate in the first 24 hours, strategy and data DO become significantly more important. I can see why you are so poor at it. You have an unlimited amount of turns, why the hell would you need to worry about when you last saw a sector? Just go visit the Darn thing.

We weren't even a perma then ha. I played that game ALL of 5 hours diddy. I was outta town most of it if that game made ya think I am stupid then you have a low opinion of everyone you have EVER played I'm sure. Like I said you HAVE done NOTHING but proven my points keep up the good work plz make us ALL laff some more AT you. I have had MASS peeps icq me their props for making you look a fool. Like I said you haven't played ME enough to say squat. I got company or I'd elucidate a lil more on your previous post.



LokI is powering up weapons systems!

Ok elucidation follows. You don't suck. Your corp don't suck. You are not a newb. You are a good tw player. You are rude. You have a opinion as we all do. I respect ya. I don't give a crap about your opinion you don't give a crap about mine. My corp doesn't suck. We do play hard. We will continue to play hard. We will continue to be your competition. Plz don't make yourself look silly anymore. I'm done here.



LokI is powering up weapons systems!

Ae Soo, I saw your point immediately. I'm just going to throw in a few 2 cents as a former game op.

1. It should be noted that the hypothetical team in question dominates the game in the first day or so, locks everyone out, then gets bored because as you put it "there's no one to play the game with or against." Does anyone else see the strangeness of this?

2. As a Sysop, I don't want to have to keep rebanging a game every 3 days, just because a group of people have gotten in there, locked down fed space so no new players can get in, and ran macros and scripts to that very same end. I really don't think that was EVER the object of the game, yet, clearly that is what a "win" has come to. I personally find this to be quite sad. (No offense to you if this is the way you play, not saying it is, Ae Soo, but if so, you're just playing the game the way it's currently being played and I respect that).

3. The game aint over until the SYSOP says it is. Bottom line. As for blowing Stardock to end the game, are we forgetting that Stardock regenerates?

4. Finally I reiterate, why did the hypothetical corp get bored? Because there was no one playing? Of course no one was playing, your hypothetical corp made that impossible! They accomplished what they set out to do, then they complain because they are bored and move on to another game, leaving the CEO to fend for himself if 5 seasoned players happen bust their way in and start taking over.

In my humble opinion, the corp that locks down a game, says "it's over" then moves on, never to brave the game again wins IF the game remains locked until SYSOP calls the game, which is clearly not what happened in this hypotheticalscenario.

I'd say in such a case the win declaration would be a bit premature, but that's my opinion.