First of all, there are a couple of other long threads that detail the unfair management style exercised by the sysop at Imperial Outpost, MajorPayne, so it's not like I wasn't warned.

My first experience there was in a Star Wars game as member of another corp. Somehow the sysop overlooked the fact that the game had no death delay, which resulted in many people repeatedly CBY'ing for cash, since the re-entry ship came with 500k cash a decent number of ftrs. My real issue with this was that when the sysop finally got around to turning the death delay back on sometime early the following afternoon, he only informed 1 person, who naturally neglected to tell the rest of us. My corpies ended up #SD# as a result, because obviously the strategy changes as game settings change. The sysop should have entered the game and told EVERYONE, and if he told anybody via ICQ, he should have ICQ'd all of us that he had on his list.

Later in this same game, after the corp the sysop seems to coddle (and which some claim are the sysop himself playing as a dupe or 3) had been decimated by another team (not mine), they suddenly claimed that they weren't getting game notifications and requested a rebang because the database was supposedly corrupted. Nobody else in any other corp (that I know of) experienced this problem, only the corp that was about to lose.

When I asked MajorPayne to proclaim a winner, or in the alternative, simply post the number of fighters, colos and cash each corp had and let people draw their own conclusions, this idea was rejected also. So basically everyone that played in that game wasted their time for 5 days, and his pet corp avoided (another?) loss.

I unwisely decided to play the rebanged game, because overall I did enjoy myself: one thing the sysop has going for him is a fast, relatively stable connection to the net. There was supposed to be a truce in this game until extern the second day.

I detailed in another post (see my post in the Game Announcements section under the News/Announcements - Game Rebangs - Rebang Game C Starwars II thread for the particulars) of the NUMEROUS breaches of the truce that I suffered at the hands of the sysop's pet corp. They smacked down 100k door ftrs, made extra planets in my base, and left behind their own defensive ftrs, and when I complained to the sysop, he basically shrugged and said, essentially, "Hey, they didn't mean it, they replaced your fighters, their script went awry, so what's the big deal?"

Later on, another person on this protected team podded my newest recruit (hired after 2 other corpies quit in disgust after the first infraction went unpunished.) Again they cried, "My script went off by accident, I'll replace his ship and ftrs" and yet again, MajorPayne took the attitude of "hey, it was a mistake, he offered to replace your assets, what's the big deal."

Also apparently IG'ing people at the class 0's to prevent them from cashing is legal in MajorPayne's games, too, especially if the offending player cries "it was a mistake, my script messed up!" I was IG'd for SIX HOURS in the first game I played in!

As most of you know, I am a new player for all intents and purposes. I used to play several years ago, but so much has changed, it's almost like a new game. So if I sound naive, well, that's the reason why.

Anyway, the questions I put to the Tradewars community are this:

(1) Shouldn't PLAYERS be responsible for what their scripts do to others? Is it fair that a player can evade truces and tour their competitor's bases and then get away with it by claiming a script messed up? It seems that, even though we mostly play by script and macro now, shouldn't the person at the keys be the one primarily responsible for what the captain of his ship does?

(2) I know that MajorPayne can do whatever he freakin pleases on his own machine, but are there any community-wide standards for what behavior is acceptable during a truce? And what are the usual penalties? It seems that examining all my planets to see what types I developed, what level they are, what the settings are at, how many ftrs I had on them, etc. gave the other corp a big advantage over me. Shouldn't I have been allowed to tour their base in return? Plus I had to face either overloaded sectors or nav haz from the extra planets they made. MajorPayne inflicted no penalty at all on these guys, other than replacing my ftrs.

(3) What about Interdicting people? Is that legal during most truces, to prevent them from cashing? I know one guy was laying limpets trying to block my ship into a small area because he probably figured out my script avoided anomalous sectors, and this kind of tactic seems sort of fair, i guess, but interdicting? That's directly interfering with my movement on an intentional, calculated basis.

Anyway, I strongly recommend that people avoid playing on MajorPayne's server, the Imperial Outpost, until this sysop learns how to treat all players fairly, and enforce his truces if he's going to declare them. He'd probably be better off not having truces at all if he's gonna be a wimp about enforcing them against his buddies.

Sorry this post was so long; thank you for reading and responding.

galaxi

[edit to clarify where my other post related to this was located]

Galaxi, you got your corps all wrong. My corp Rouge Horsemen are supposed to be the pet corp/DUPERS. Not those loosers of Overkills. We are the supposed dupes sysop. And We were not the ones having problems. I dont know why you are trying to give away the corp sysop love. LOL. I totally agree with you though, there needs to be some rule changes. Look at my smack post. Hey lets talk hit me up on ICQ. I am 275461017. The sysop did announce it in the game. I got it. And not only that it was listed in the forum here under the rebang. I can understand it was a mistake. I can even understand that he disabled it at end of truce. That would be a stupid game. 3 full corps fighting it out with no death delay. That would suck. Hit me up lets share notes.

I will start by saying, this is the only second time on Imperial Outpost, so I can only comment on what I know.

I know I played in the first game, and sent numerous caps to the sysop, AND to the player who asked me. I was not receiving messages, I was in a POD, with messages on, went from ship to pod, and the only way I knew it was by when I tried to holoscan, I was in a pod. Was it a bug on my TWX, or in the server, I don't know. I know that Soul Collector (sp) mentioned he was having messages problems over SS at one point. I know I could WINVNC into a corpies computer and type something on mine, and NOT see it on their subcom.

Regardless, I personally probably agree with you Galaxi, another corp should have been declared the winner, it is a game, no big deal if someone loses because of messages. Someone probably should have won.

As to lawnmowering figs. That seems a double standard, when opening day someone lawnmowered into our base and blew away our figs, your personal response was "it was only a script." But the next day when I did it to you, it was "OMG truce breaking!" That seems a double standard. Personally, I have played in unlimited games before were if you accidenatly mower figs, that is life, you replace them, maybe that is a different server, different day. Regardless, I was powered up on by at least one of your corpies when they were running WSSM, I had come into sector, and pickedup a fig, as they came in and their script hit me. I didn't complain, it wasn't a big deal. It is an unlimited game. Am I claiming what is right or not, no.

Personally, different boards have different standards for truces. I would not mine seeing a very DEFINED list of what is a truce. To be honest, did it affect anything when figs were killed? No, because they were replaced. The only reason there was a planet in base was to replace your figs lost in space. I could have invaded a planet to leave you figs, but that doesn't seem the smartest answer. Personally, when I lawmowered your figs, there were ":)" in your messages. If you had a serious problem you could have hailed me, tried to contact me, etc. Nothing was raised at the time, so I thought nothing of it, after replacing your figs.

As to someone getting podded, I am told it was a mistake, considering that the corpies was going to CBY, a mistake happened, and the offer was made from renumeration, I don't see it as a huge issue, but that is how I learned to play Unlimited, you replace if you screw up in a truce. If there is a different method that is expected that it should be posted. I didn't get ticked when someone accidentaly powered up on me, or when someone actually fired on me to get alignment. It was part of a game. Did it in ANY way alter the outcome? I can't image how, since figs/cash, etc was all replaced, with no game time lost for the victim. But once again, that is how I was taught to play.

My suggestion in any game is that any and all rules be clearly defined before the game rebangs. Heck, I prefer to see the twa file or at least full game settings defined ahead of time. I apologize if in any way you felt my actions were offensive, or breaking a truce. I offer this as the best thing I can. If you feel your corp was slighted, interested in a corp vs corp game, something like revladder, or something similar on a neutral server, as a chance to rematch, without any questions of server quality, arguments, etc.

I do not disagree with some of your stuff in the post, the sysop may have made some mistakes, sure, I'll agree with that. But than, I am human and I know I make mistakes.

For the record, I disagree with the IG also. But would prefer to see a clearly defined list of rules and what is acceptable.

Hope this clears the water some, I tried to ICQ you early, but didn't get any response.

Jhereg

Demon,

I'll get ya on ICQ. But I do want to clarify that my problem with the Death Delay was that it was NOT turned off at midnight! In fact, at 12:08 am we #SD#'d Overkill and he was right back in!

The sysop didn't get around to turning off death delay until the FOLLOWING AFTERNOON, and when he finally did do it, Overkill is the only person he (apparently) told. My complaint about it is that he should have come in-game and told EVERYONE, -and- posted it in the log or at Terra.

Telling only one corp gave them a HUGE advantage.

Also, I know that RES claimed your corp was MajorPayne's dupes, but it has always been my understanding that Overkill & co. enjoyed an exalted status there also. In the two games I played in, they were basically invincible from penalty for breaking the Truces.

galaxi

Wssming doesn't even scan when it goes out from the class 0 ports from refurbing.If you have a problem With people hanging up your scripts you should be at keys to check your scripts...I dont' depend on my scripts to run without hangups...Galaxi you want to complain left and right about the game I offered to replace what your corpie lost in fact i said i would double it. Demon is right.., just CBying like you both did is a Chicken Sh*t way out of it... Then to go complain about it...And as far as the Ig thing pay attention to yourself and quit complain About little bullsh*t...If you Have a Problem about people entering your sector during a truce lay figs in your home sector with mines and cannons on...500k offensive figs in the sector will make a person think twice about using blind gridders...And if you remember first your corpie entered and killed our figs first...Jhereg was the first person attacked by spyhunter so you can thank him for me running offensive scripts...
We didnt' go complain to the sysop about it...His accuse was he wasn't sure if the truce was still on...You corp quit not cause of all the little ****...But because you guys were being out classed and out cashed!
The game is still having problems with messages and Majorpayne is checking into it with JP...And no Demon we weren't the only ones with the problem Blade was the first one to start screaming about it before the rebang.

Galaxi you are Very wrong as to when I turned death delay back on Very wrong. I turned it on Just after midingiht. Yes I did notice that You guys had podded Overkill Twice and thus I warned Overkil that he would be SD'd if caught in again. That the system stil counted them as 2 podds for the day.
It was minutes after mifnioght that I turn in on.. Not the next afternoon. Get your fax staight. As of for the complaint that you made in the second game.. I will post the Full ICQ history here in just a moment.. But you were tunneled visioned and would not let me get into the game and find out what was going on. Thanks for the appology that you sent this morning.. But this is kinda two faced


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ICQ History Log For:
119460975 galaxi
Started on Wed Oct 15 15:47:18 2003
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galaxi 10/14/20 7:50 PM Jhereg CLAIMS this intrusion was a mistake
made by his script. I find it INCREDIBLE that
anybody could use a script that would enter
sectors with densities in the tens of
thousands, or if holo-scanning, would enter a
sector with planets in it. I do not believe
his assertion that it was a mistake, but even
if it was, are we going to "excuse" truce
violations because of what people's scripts
do? There HAS to be accountability!

galaxi 10/14/20 7:51 PM I'm going to be away for a couple of hours: I
hope to hear a resolution to this by the time
I return. Another note, Jhereg did replace
the fighters he plowed through, but heh, if
all I have to do is replace the fighters,
that's a small price to pay to see what my
opponents are up to.

Respectuflly submitted for corp 1 by Galaxi

MajorPayne 10/14/20 8:17 PM Understand that scripts are written in
different ways for different reasons. without
trying to quess at what kind of script that he
was running, there are several, depending on
the mode that it is run in that most
deffenatlly doesn't care about density at all.



MajorPayne 10/14/20 8:17 PM In a game with truce: it isn't a violation for
them to enter yoursector.. It is a violation
if they do something once they are there.
Don't take that statement to litereal.


MajorPayne 10/14/20 8:19 PM again in a game with truce: if there is a
sector that you want to protect then protect
it. Make there scripts hang. The best way to
make there scripts hang is to put 200k to 400k
figs in the sector. A good gridding script is
going to try to go to each sector that it can.
but it is made to attack one time (as if there
was one fig in the sector) some attack with
999 figs as the attack comes into play.

MajorPayne 10/14/20 8:19 PM I write my scripts to attack with whatever the
ship can attack with in one attack. if I don't
get to a command prompt then I am hung. These
scripts are not ment to be offensive.. I doubt
that Jhereg is trying to be offensive.
However I am not sure I will come into the
game and ask him.


MajorPayne 10/14/20 8:19 PM Also in a game were there isn't a truce the
best that you can do or anyone for that matter
is to have people make money. have others
build planets and also map in some way. Don't
expect to keep a base that you started with
after truce. ALWAYS MOVE. this way. you stand
a better change of remaining hidden. There is
no way for me to tell you how to select a
base. Everyone has there own oppinion.


galaxi 10/14/20 11:08 PM 52nd_HeatSink(21:07 PM) :
<<<Overkill>>> is powering up weapons systems!

Shipboard Computers <<<Overkill>>> destroyed
1802 fighters.
<<<Overkill>>> captured your Star Freighter in
combat!
For abandoning ship, you lost 1528 experience
points.
You fled in your Escape Pod to sector 2


I suupose you have justification for tHIS
action, too, which took place at around 11:00
pm?

MajorPayne 10/14/20 11:09 PM You really don't have to get smart.. This is
an offensive move.. Thanks for letting me
know I will Talk to him now..

galaxi 10/14/20 11:09 PM I'm done with your server, ><ide corp is
greatly offended, and i see now why ppl didn't
wanna play here after the mess you had with
res. you BETTER get your server and pet
players like overkill under control or NOBODY
will play here

galaxi 10/14/20 11:10 PM I'm cbying

MajorPayne 10/14/20 11:10 PM That is fine if you wnat to take off I do
understand.. talk to ya later


galaxi 10/14/20 11:12 PM oh you have nothing to say about your buddy
overkill attacking my corpie?

galaxi 10/14/20 11:12 PM i suupose there's a justification for THAT,
too right? like plowing through 100k ftrs?

galaxi 10/14/20 11:13 PM did you know that when i came back in the game
earlier, aftert they hung my script, i was met
with 250 mines, 150k or so off fyrs, and
almost lost my ship? laying off ftrs on
someone who dropped is a TRUCE?


galaxi 10/14/20 11:13 PM this is a JOKE

MajorPayne 10/14/20 11:13 PM First of all he isn't my buddy. I will get to
the problem.. You need to calm down. If you
want to threaten me again you can leave.. I
handle problems on a one on one bassis


galaxi 10/14/20 11:14 PM i am not threatening you major, i just think
this is a violation of good faith

galaxi 10/14/20 11:14 PM and yeah, that kind of thing INFURIATES me
because i am a person of high honor

MajorPayne 10/14/20 11:14 PM read what you have typed to me.. and then quit
sending me messages till I can get to it.


galaxi 10/15/20 10:48 AM (1) I would like to apologize if said
anything inappropriate to you last night when
I was angered by the THIRD serious breach of
"truce" in your game. I had just recruited
that guy they podded after 2 other teammates
had quit in disgust already. He came donw
kinda hard on me because he thought that I had
misled him about a truce. So I under a lot
pressure from both ends.

galaxi 10/15/20 10:51 AM (2) I would like to thank you for taking the
time you did to explain how many of these
scripts and auto-trader/ssm scripts work.
Back when I played last, this kind of stuff
was in it's infancy, and an auto port-pair
trader that haggled was still considered by
many to be cheating. So I'm getting used
to a whole parsdigm shift in ethics and
attitude in tw today. Like MANY others I
guess... but i am grateful to you for taking
the time to

galaxi 10/15/20 10:53 AM explain things like you did. That was really
nice, and GREATLY appreciated. =)

(3) I feel that I must make a public comment
about the games at Imperial Outpost. Every
major game you've hosted that drew upper
echelon players has ended badly. There are
many who doubt Overkill's assertion of message
corruption in that previous game, since it
wasn't happening to anybody but his corp.

galaxi 10/15/20 10:55 AM He might have written a script that was
interfering with game out put or something,
there are MANY possible answers, but fact of
the matter is, the other big corp in that game
had them on the run after 3 or 4 days of
outstanding play. The reason I was pressing
you for a declaration of winner was that in my
previous experience hosting tw games and
bbs's, things like this can dog ya for a long
time if people don't get closure.


galaxi 10/15/20 10:57 AM People put a lot of hard work into these
games, and they don't like unresolved
outcomes. Let theplayers negotiate a winner,
or simply come forth and post the number of
colos, ftrs and cash each corp had and those
results speak for themselves (assuming they
all had the highest planet avail at the time,
etc.) Anyway, you run your board the way you
will, and I'll voice my opinions the way I
will, and we can agree to disagree, but I
wanted to

galaxi 10/15/20 10:58 AM give you the courtesy of advance notice that I
plan to make a post at EIS about my
experiences at your server.

Thanks for hosting the games, Major. It's a
tough, thankless job, and I'm glad there's
people like you still willing to do it. =)

galaxi

Jhereg/Draconis,

Thank you for your long, detailed response to my post. I appreciate the time you took to clarify things for me and present your side of the issue.

At the time you guys took a tour through my base, as you (correctly) intuited from my smiling responses, I wasn't really that upset. The planets pissed me off because I intentionally had only placed 4 per sector on the doors so I could bring in my two big-ore producers from the sector near Terra. The reason I sent the formal protest to the sysop, and subsquently derieded the action, was because the rest of my team didn't think it was an "excusable" offense during a truce. Contrary to what (i'm finding out is) "normal" strategy in a high-turn game, I believe it was Grazhoppa's intention to remain that base and defend it. So the extra planets hurt us.

Now, as far as someone in my corp powering up on you, I wish I'd known this sooner! I won't tolerate that kind of thing from my teammates. I suspect it might be Graz, who writes his own scripts: he doesn't play in Truce'd games, and didn't know this one had a truce either until our base got "lawn-mowed". There was some mis-communication between the corp member that got Graz to play with us and Graz: the member didn't tell him about the truce.

So I apologize for your being powered up on, I wish I'd known sooner. And if it WASN'T Graz, then please tell me who it was, ASAP, so I can look at the scripts they're running. Most of the guys I'm with are using freeware stuff or at best, TWX pack 2.

Jhereg, of all the players in that game that weren't on my team, I felt you were one of the most honorable. That's mainly why I didn't name your name as to who blew away my door ftrs. Maybe someday we can corp together. =) You seem to have a lot more honor than some of the people you team with.

galaxi

P.S. I accepted your ICQ list request, hope to chat with you soon. =)

In closing.. You can threaten me all you want. I just laugh in your face. I don't cater to Overkill and his cor any more than anyone else. I can assure you I know him no better than I know you. I have no idea were this Tedit Idea of yours comes from, But I do believe it is funny. as of for you and your crew not coming back, that is your loss. Go Go in peace. Next time you have a problem on a server though ask for proof.. I keep proof. I will be glad to share it with anyone when questioned.

I did come into the game after you several attempts To spam me with ICQ's from hell. eventually I turned you off if you remember. Once in the game you were just as reasonable. Then you guys did save yourselves as you put it the aggrivation by CBY'ing. This was real funny. I think the real problem is that Overkill and his crew was way to overpowering for your "ELITE" force. May they just have there **** together. I also remember in the first game that you aggreed with the rebang. Please rebut this. But I remember when I cam into the game to question the problem that you fell right into suite. As of for declaring a winner.. Well that is funny.. You asked me how had the most figs and colonist and money.. I didn't check so much for the money as I did Alien planets, Colonist and figs. I told you in the game that Corp two Demons crew had the most cols, because they took a bunch from OverKills Crew. They also took an alien planet from his crew. Now I asked if anyone wanted a declared winner and Overkil said no So I asked Demon if he wanted to be declared as the winner.. He said "Na! if they are not getting messages like us, lets just replay the game." Do a rebang is what he wanted.

Again I will suggest.. If you get your panties in a wod. Try to get the facts straight. Try find out what the sysop is going to try to do to remedee the problem.

MajorPayne,

Oh wow, if I knew I was dealing with the kind of scum that took PRIVATE messages and posted them in a public forum without the courtesy of asking the other party first, I never even would have bothered to try to communicate with you!

That action alone tells everyone what kind person you are!

What more can *I* say?!

galaxi

Sometimes it's hard to understand underaged engreesh. - hehe -

Majorpayne, It's best not to open a can of accusations before you sum up your opponants. I'll address you when I feel like it. For now, lets take a trip down memory lane...

First, you claim that galaxi threatened you on ICQ.. Can you READ? Your so full of yourself. Not only did she not threaten you, after she was done fuming, she apologized, then PRAISED you.

Second, (I love numbering ****) Not only are you a pompus *******, but it's quiet obvious that your a pompus ******* that doesn't know trade wars- When I decided to stop playing your ... retarded ... game, My alignment was twice as low as overkills (Next best casher) and over 5x lower than the rest of his teamates. Which means- "Grazhoppa's WSSM pwned JOO!"..

Third, (yay, more counting) As for being outclassed, I have no doubt in that, Overkill is very professional, although I cannot say the same for demon (due to lack of knowledge of the player/team) I can say my team had no previous experience working together.

Fourth, Outcashed?? I think not. Out Colonized? Perhaps, although our cash/fig count was far superior.

Fifth, (number of the day!! YAY!) Take your arrogance elsewhere. I haven't been around in forever, (****in arabs, no offense) I come back, write a few scripts, and decide to play.. Unfortunatly for me, I was invited to your server, which is a very nice server I might add. However it's in MAJOR PAYNE.. All your server needs is an admin, and it'd be hash.

Class, Colonists, and Cash aside- The only thing our team was lacking, was a fair admin.

No WSSM script, or WTrade script will attack or pod another player, unless the script was not well written, or it was a defensive action caused by the script, either way sysop interaction should have been involved.

It's my personal opinion that truces in unlimited turn games are for 2 types of people, #1 Ones that suck, #2 Ones that want to build up, then bash eachother.

Personally, I'd rather play a game of chess. It's less boring, quicker, and nobody whines when they lose (cept for res)

Onto Major Payne-

I don't give a rats Butt about your server, yeah it's nice, yeah it doesn't lag.. Who cares? You can't even enforce your own ****in rules.

Next time you decide to slam someone, make sure I'm not on their team. I don't give a **** who you are, or who you think you are, I'll take you down, publicly, or privatly, you slam my team, you slam me, I **** you up.

I've seen horrible players whine less than you have in 1 post. You wanna be a good sysop? Lose the gay rules, enforce the rules you choose to post, keep your mouth shut unless it's called for. When you answer an accusation, especially with punctuality as pitiful as yours, it's pathetic. When a sysop posts a private conversation with a client (player) onto a public forum, it makes that sysop look even more like ****. Not only did you slam a team, you didn't answer the accusations.

I'll probably play on your board again, once you mature quite a bit. Until then, take heed of advice you get from other sysops- You could also learn quite a bit from their example.. http://www.thestardock.com http://www.tavern.homeip.net

Here are examples of 2 FANTASTIC boards, with 2 FANTASTIC sysops, their honorability surpassed by none. I've seen eleq get bashed on everything from cheating to being a lousey player. I can attest that I've NEVER seen him pull **** outta his Butt like you just did.

Overview of a good sysop:
#1 TWGS has good, stable connection (Check)
#2 TWGS is run on good machine (Check)
#3 TWGS has good, or no edits (Check)
#4 Sysop is fair and unbias (?????)
#5 Sysop enforces posted rules (Rules?)
#6 Sysop replies to all questions in decent, and orderly fasion (???)
#7 Sysop is reliable and sticks to his word (?????)
#8 Sysop's only intention is to run a good game (Check)

I can go on and on- but the 3 that you are lacking are enough to make people not want to play there. Add that to the fact that you have no confidentiality quams, I feel you will lose alot of players, to good boards like alienbase, stardock, TLTT, And the many others that are outthere.

I personally would not feel safe confiding anything to you. Wether it be about a player who might be exploiting a bug, or down to the fact that I wear breifs instead of boxers.

Learn when to open your mouth before your lips start moving.


I'm done until you **** up again.

-Grazhoppa

Oh wait Galaxi you want to Bash him as a sysop but you don't want the rest of the world to see how you treated him????Hrmmm Is this one sided???I think so..."Oh feel sorry for me i was wronged by the sysop..He favors everyone but me...I'll bash the sysop and noone will know the difference"....Private Conversation??? If It was so private why come out here to bash him....Looks like you did enough of that privately...It's a two way street sister...Don't start sh*t and, There won't be none...You get up in someones faces...Better believe they will get right back in your's...Being a 44 year old woman or not.... Need to show respect around her to get it...

Overkill,

I honestly believed that MajorPayne was fully capable of defending himself adequately without resorting to the use of sleazy tactics like posting private conversations on a public board without the courtesy of asking the other participant first.

Had he asked, I most likely would have said, "go ahead" since there's nothing substantially different in that log than what I was already saying publicly anyway. It's just the PRINCIPLE of the thing.

But of course, as we're finding out, MajorPayne has no principles and can't be trusted with the types confidences a Sysop will by neccessity be entrusted with.

I agree with Grazhoppa that he needs to grow up.

galaxi

P.S. I'm still lost as to what this alleged "threat" was. Perhaps Payne can clarify it a little bit for us.

I admit i didnt play this game but here is my opinion of a truce.No more than 1 fighter in a sector besides home.No armed mines in space but home,Limps are ok.NO ig's.No entering a sector with other peoples planets.Do not land on a planet your corp didnt make besides at sd to pbust.No creating a nav haz to make someone screw up.
Basically do not touch anothers secter,do nothing to make them stop and do nothing to make then get podded pr crash.
This is my opinion and everyone is entitled to theirs.

Sorry Galaxi i have to disagree...If you did not want people to know what you said or how you acted towards him... You should have thought about your actions before you Jump onto him...You Could have atleast listened to me in the game Before pulling a RES jr. And cbying cause you were upset...The thing is you went from bashing him on icq... to praising him... But then you come in here and bash him some more... You have to understand Majorpayne is a sysop yes, but he also plays the game...So you think he going to sit around and let you not only bash his name but his board???Darn Grazhopa only jumped back cause he's defending his corp...And the fact he thinks Majorpayne is including him on the retaleation...And major is attacking you back...Grim reaper was a good player when i played with him back in the day...So there's no bashing there...You on the other hand come out here...As a newbie! And start bashing things you have no comperhension of what is going on...Think before you open your mouth Galaxi...I praise Grazhoppa for coming out here defending his corp...although he gave up on it before the "truce" every ended... Probably sick of seeing how badly his corpies were playing the game....
I've said it before truces have no part in TW...****..have no SD blockades if you want to passify the NOOBS(Galaxi)... and I say this to all sysops.. Which most do this... But don't come out here and pass Judgment on a man when you first bash him then praise him....Think where he is coming from before you pass sentence... He's here trying to run a server please everyone in the process and be dogged to death when one person is unhappy...You might have ran a server back in the day Galaxi.. But things have changed and so has the way of playing... Get in the grove before you disrespect something you know nothing about...

I did want to add something-


I hate bashing sysops-

There are few good TWGS systems out there. Although I stated that Imperial Outpost wouldn't be on my "to play" list. I might retract that statment- For any of those that would like to contact me my ICQ is 45338941.

For amusment only, can someone start a new thread and bash Someone else? (That isn't a sysop) I know most the old school players are sysops (Hopefully I'll be getting my TWGS code back soon)

Notorious TWGS going up December 03! (Or november)