My players tell me of a problem on one of my games. I have two particular alien races running, both with pretty good ships. One alien race they can capture the ships, and the other one they can't. The one they can't doesn't even have figs on it, and when they send one fig, it destorys the ship. Now the only difference I noticed between the alien ships is that the ones they can capture, the defensive and offensive odds are the same, and the ones they can't capture are differnent. Is this a bug of some sort?? Here is a log he sent me...

[03:26] <NixMarl> Sector : 3611 in uncharted space.
[03:26] <NixMarl> Ports : Alexandria Minor, Class 5 (SBS)
[03:26] <NixMarl> Borg : 17 of 50, w/ 11,104 ftrs,
[03:26] <NixMarl> in Ship 17 of 25 (BORG SPHERE)
[03:26] <NixMarl> 28 of 44, w/ 33,867 ftrs,
[03:26] <NixMarl> in Ship 13 of 25 (BORG SPHERE)
[03:26] <NixMarl> Warps to Sector(s) : 2978 - 4243 - 11974 - 12454
[03:26] <NixMarl> Command [TL=00:00:00]:[3611] (?=Help)? :
[03:26] <NixMarl> a Borg ship is powering up weapons systems!
[03:26] <NixMarl> a Borg ship launches a wave of fighters at Nix Marl
[03:26] <NixMarl> Shipboard Computers Borg 28 of 44 destroyed 11031 shield points and 0 fighters.
[03:26] <NixMarl> Command [TL=00:00:00]:[3611] (?=Help)? :
[03:26] <NixMarl> a Borg ship is powering up weapons systems!
[03:26] <NixMarl> a Borg ship launches a wave of fighters at Nix Marl
[03:26] <NixMarl> Shipboard Computers Borg 17 of 50 destroyed 4969 shield points and 1689 fighters.
[03:26] <NixMarl> Command [TL=00:00:00]:[3611] (?=Help)? :
[03:26] <NixMarl> a Borg ship is powering up weapons systems!
[03:26] <NixMarl> a Borg ship launches a wave of fighters at Nix Marl
[03:26] <NixMarl> Shipboard Computers Borg 28 of 44 destroyed 1286 fighters.
[03:26] <NixMarl> Command [TL=00:00:00]:[3611] (?=Help)? :
[03:26] <NixMarl> a Borg ship is powering up weapons systems!
[03:26] <NixMarl> a Borg ship launches a wave of fighters at Nix Marl
[03:26] <NixMarl> Shipboard Computers Borg 17 of 50 destroyed 265 fighters.
[03:26] <NixMarl> Command [TL=00:00:00]:[3611] (?=Help)? : D
[03:26] <NixMarl> <Re-Display>
[03:26] <NixMarl> Sector : 3611 in uncharted space.
[03:26] <NixMarl> Ports : Alexandria Minor, Class 5 (SBS)
[03:26] <NixMarl> Borg : 17 of 50, w/ 0 ftrs,
[03:26] <NixMarl> in Ship 17 of 25 (BORG SPHERE)
[03:26] <NixMarl> 28 of 44, w/ 13,889 ftrs,
[03:26] <NixMarl> in Ship 13 of 25 (BORG SPHERE)
[03:26] <NixMarl> Warps to Sector(s) : 2978 - 4243 - 11974 - 12454
[03:27] <NixMarl> ------------------
[03:27] <NixMarl> Command [TL=00:00:00]:[3611] (?=Help)? : A
[03:27] <NixMarl> <Attack>
[03:27] <NixMarl> Attack 17 of 50's SPHERE (46,749-0) (Y/N) [N]? Yes
[03:27] <NixMarl> How many fighters do you wish to use (0 to 100) [0]? 1
[03:27] <NixMarl> For attacking this Borg your alignment went up by 95 point(s).
[03:27] <NixMarl> You lost 1 fighter(s), 46,748 remain.
[03:27] <NixMarl> For defeating this Borg you receive 6148 experience point(s).
[03:27] <NixMarl> You have been promoted to Pirate!
[03:27] <NixMarl> and your alignment went up by 477991 point(s).
[03:27] <NixMarl> You find 17 of 50's credits worth 0!
[03:27] <NixMarl> You destroyed the ship and salvaged these cargo holds:
[03:27] <NixMarl> 35 with fuel ore
[03:27] <NixMarl> "Nix Marl is in sector 145!", shouts 17 of 50.

does it have a pod? if the ship has no pod and is manned - i dont think you can cap it...

Uh, what are the odds of the Borg ship? I do not really know, but I wonder if the off odds of the player ship is really high and the def odds of the Borg ship are really low that maybe 1 fig is enough to destroy the Borg ship. Can someone verify that for me please, as I am guessing here.

bug120zhog is correct. You need to make sure the ships have a pod. if they have no pod, then they can't be capped from aliens is my understanding.

quote:Originally posted by outlaw78

My players tell me of a problem on one of my games. I have two particular alien races running, both with pretty good ships. One alien race they can capture the ships, and the other one they can't. The one they can't doesn't even have figs on it, and when they send one fig, it destorys the ship. Now the only difference I noticed between the alien ships is that the ones they can capture, the defensive and offensive odds are the same, and the ones they can't capture are differnent. Is this a bug of some sort?? Here is a log he sent me...
<NixMarl> "Nix Marl is in sector 145!", shouts 17 of 50.

This is new v57 ?
Check in Tedit Ships , see if it has pod.
If not , then it most likely will not be capturable.

Then if it has pod ,
I'de look at the attacking ships offencive odds against the def odds of ship target ship.


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The ship they were trying to capture it in was a Colonist Transport with like a 0.3 offensive odd and the borg ship has a 3.3 deffensive odds so I don't think it is that one.

Yeah, the ship they are trying to capture doesn't have a pod. That makes sense and only one ship doesn't have a pod. I will wait to see if the next level ship (which does have a pod) can be captured. Thanks for the prompt help! Really appriciate it.

quote:Originally posted by Orion_Blastar

Uh, what are the odds of the Borg ship? I do not really know, but I wonder if the off odds of the player ship is really high and the def odds of the Borg ship are really low that maybe 1 fig is enough to destroy the Borg ship. Can someone verify that for me please, as I am guessing here.


GameOdds change when you shoot 1 fig..

Thats funny...

quote:Originally posted by PHX

If you don't know enough about the game to have figured that one out on your own...what are you doing running a tw server???

LOL


Even GameOps have to start learning at a certain level. Which is why these forums are here for. Sometimes a newbie buys a TWGS registration and runs a server, anyone could do it. This forum is here to help and is not the Smack Talk forum. Obviously Outlaw78 needed some assistance to learn how to better manage the game edits for his players. Much better to ask a question than not ask. At least he can get an answer, even if you think it is something he should have figured out for himself.