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hi there guys and gals, got a question... playing on the dark side research server and yesterday, 12/08/05, in the game there was about 860k figs in the game, and the colonists on terra regenerated at a very slow pace... very slow... colo_regen=2500 a day... its a colonist game.. has one of those special planets that is 1 to 1 for figs.. and our corp had at least 720k of those figs... today we log on to play our turns and there are 900k colonists on terra and over 10 million figs in the game... and we capped one guy this morning with over a billion credits on him... this game has unlimited turns and no time limit to how long you can play the sysop just asked that we cannot grid... so all you experts out there in twar land tell me if its possible to make 1 billion credits and have enough left over to get over 10 million figs in one day when your corp has 3 blue players in it and they are not playing 24/7 ... its kind of a bummer too because it was a reliable server...hardly any down time.. and when someone gets blown up they cry and whine over fed space like babies who have to leave the park... its unlimited turns right so i sat at fed space and shot off a bunch of eprobes to find peoples spots.. you know normal twar playing.. and one guy got mad because i was running a script.. well it was the eprobe script at the top of the zoc window... is that wrong? or is this dark side research server just a bunch of bullxxxx?


Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:32 pm
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the money part is possible, but the colonist deal is fishy, perhaps the other corp wanted the sysop to reload terra, and being a noobie sysop didnt figure to ask the other team if they objected. are the people that made all that money evil?

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Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:48 pm
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no they are all blue


Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:58 pm
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Need more edit information.

Do the planets start with products on it?

What are the production rates for products on the planets?

What is the regen rate for colos on terra? (hit * at the screen you normally press T to enter the game at)

Are there any aliens in the game if so are there ships worth a lot of credits if you sell them?

The colo part is fishy.

Also sounds as if this is a newbi server. (reference to people crying when the get poded.)

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Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:24 pm
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he said the colo regen was 2500

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Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:27 pm
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one planet does starts off with 10000 f,o,e... but i would say 1/3 or more of the ports in that game have been blown up by another corp... production rate for product is 1 to 1 and the regeneration rate is 2500 a day but when i logged off yesterday at 5pm cst.. there were only 24 colonists on terra now there are over 900k yes there are aliens don't know right off hand what they are worth is there an easy way to find that out? also logs do not show aliens being capped.


Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:27 pm
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go play at Que's Game sever 66.140.82.129:2002

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Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:13 am
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Ok last night before extern fighters cost approximately 223 credits ea.

10 mil – 860 k = 9,140,000 fighters.

9,140,000 * 223 = 2,038,220,000 credits to buy the fighters.

To produce that many fighters in a 24-hour period would take 9,140,000 colos distributed on various planets producing at 1:1.

A good red running a fast SSM script can make around 25 mil an hour so 2,038,220,000 / 25,000,000 = 81.5 hours.

As for the colo thing if regen is set 2500 for the day it would take 360 days to accumulate 900,000.

I’m not going to get in to the math to prove how long it would take a blue to make that kind of cash but lets just say it would take quite a few upgraded ports and a lot of product. But for one example lets say its MBBS mode game and we are only ptrading equ on fully upgraded ports and all ports were –65 MCIC it would look something like this to make just 1 bil credits 1,000,000,000 / 6,000,000 = 166 planet trades and thats assuming that all the product was produced on the planets.

When you look at the math it all looks very fishy.

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Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:21 am
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Speed you must not be adding right my SSM makes over 100mil an hour...

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Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:17 am
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Pack 2 twx script....???world ssm... that's the one i was refering too....

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Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:52 am
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Ok we all don’t have access to the scripts you have also I could be a little off I don’t play unlims and I’m trying to recall some numbers off the top of my head its been a few months if I remember correctly 25 mil was the norm for a world SSM script at one time.

If I’m wrong I encourage others to correct me.

I also encourage to OP to try and crunch the numbers them self to prove or disprove it.

Well I’m off for the weekend time to play WoW :P

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Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:56 am
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lol speed, u could ppt 25mil in an hour :P (well, maybe not, but still, closer than ssm, lol)
as for is it cheating?
like it's been said, we need more edit info.
if there are aliens, then the figs could technically jump a bazillion in a day cause they operate by different rules (ok, not a bazillion, max is 2b figs per sector, max 20k sectors, 19989 of which they can fig... so trillions :P)
anywho, depending on how aliens are set up, they could be the explanation for the figs.
the colos on terra can ONLY be put there by the sysop, max regen is 65665 (or something like that)
900k is divine intervention.
so yes, the sysop DID edit the game w/o telling you (unless you didn't read about it somewhere that he assumes everyone reads or something)
cheating? na
stupid? yes
try to avoid ghetto servers with newb sysops.
hit up people like vader or river rat's boards.
sure, they are newbs in game, but they are great sysops :) hehehe

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Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:27 am
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well thanks all for all the info... will not play on that server ever again.. but will try out the others listed... appreciate all your help :) oh and by the way locutis its she:)


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