Exactly, discouraging the usage of massive amounts of limpets.

*THE* thing that has chased off the
most players is the time requirement.

The time requirement causes people with jobs and real
world activities to grow to resent the game the way
it's played now. That's because you can't play part time
and win. The game rewards those w/o a job, and w/o
a family, and often strains family relationships. I've seen
it happen, I've seen marriages dissolve under the
pressure of THIS game. I once had a wife come into our
chat and cuss me out for it, and I've had others that
were incredibly supportive. I had one family where the
wife would play for the husband while he was at work.
Same account, obviously not duping, not sure what that
is.

That's what makes this game both strong and weak.
It's a social game, it's a fun game because it's social.
People don't play it because it's a game, they play it
because it's a social experience. I mean heck, traitor
just came back in a few days ago and posted a merry
xmas message. What do you think brought him in to
do that, the ability to make 19k per turn or the friends
he's spent hours with on the phone?

I'd imagine in your own memories of how you played
the game, you probably had your own group too.

What we need is a way to expand THAT experience
while reducing the time commitment to something
that people with jobs can play. I would like to make
it easier for sysops to post custom messages with
each game, and I would like a way to better manage
the time requirements.

I have no clue how to do either. I have a few ideas,
but they aren't without problems and I'm sure there
are better approaches.

i dont think any of you guys realize the strain of a 24/7 game that lasts for 12-14 months. i can post links to rants about travian breaking families, because of how much time you have to put in. i know people who lost jobs over it. and while this might not be the right thread for it, this is a concern i have.

how can we have a tourney from 5 different servers hosted on a 6th when none of the 6 run the same game?

No, we do. While most games here don't last 12
months, I've had strings of games that took 24
hours a day that lasted for 12 months. I've had
corpies that played that entire run w/ me, too,
and it got hairy and stressful. Ask misb.

While TW isn't that bad, taking 3 months of your
life off isn't any more practical than taking 12
months of your life off.

IMO, this is something that also needs addressed.

This is why I'd like to see games built around specific
time zones. It's something I'd like to do once the
beta is more stable. I can script it, but it would be
nice if I didn't have to.



Standardized edits. So when you play edit X, you
know you're getting edit X.

as for a standardized edit, there are too many server things going on to guarantee edit x on server a will be the same as edit x on server b, or c, etc. at least that is my perception. it seems like a lot of settings are now going to be outside the auspices of a specific edit...

The point I was getting at was limpet clearing should require turns or planet fuel to clear a sector. If a limpet is picked up that belongs to corp X, it would take a limpet from another corp/player to remove that limpet or a visit to a class 0/9 port. Now a corp of 5 could clear 5 limpets in one sector without moving, and then move and clean all 5 ships with personal limpets, BUT if there is 250 limpets there, that will take a lot of gas or turns to accomplish the task. Therefore it would be much more difficult to clear sectors of limpets. They would really have to want the sector to go to that much trouble, but it would be possible for reds and blues equally.

Flee costs turns 50% of the time or SSF would still be used to cash.
SSF in a 1TPW ship is still a better money maker than SDT but by so little % no one bothers.

People WILL be AFK....You will lose some grid....Get over it.

So, if just one of the options for limpets is that they never "fall-off" and can only be cleaned at SD or one of the zero ports, it's still a good "option".

NO it is not a good Option at all. As it removes Choice and narrows the gameplay options alot.


ALl you have to do is put one of your corp's personal figs on your ship and you would never have to worry over limpets.Sysops could just remove them from ships today...no need for all the coding just to make limpets worthless. I know you are new to modern tactics Crusher but Limpets are a major part of gridding.
Turning them off makes gridding to powerful and ruins the game as base building and everything that goes with it become worthless in gameplay.

Making them super sticky Just condemns everyone to fighting over a few sectors for grid control. Might as well have 100 sector Verse because the whole game will revolve around Class0 control. Little else will matter.

Your Corp will HAVE to Control at least one Class0 to be competitive.
Therfore I MUST be online at Xturn....Miss one day and game is over....Again NO CHOICE.

Sticky Limpets don't have to be used in gridwars style games. And if I recall, there was a 3% chance they would fall off on their own.