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Kaus
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 Re: Getting dropped to the game menu while running wsst
Helix wrote: I will give it another shot tonight, while I was testing the wsst some exuberant trader killed me lol
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To clarifiy, the drop to the game menu only happened when I had WSST set to drop off cash in the Cit. When WSST was set to hold the cash there was no problem I collected 267 mill before another trader in the game killed me.
I will try again when I get home since I am at work and cant watch it work or defend myself while here. But your logs don't indicate you were in cit, so I don't see the relevance. Personally it looks like the same issue we have when two players try to deploy figs at the exact same time. If jp was/is running special software that logs and causes the game to crash when a error is generated, maybe you deployed during that special moment when there is desych with the server. At least that's how it looks to me.
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| Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:04 am |
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Helix
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Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:57 am Posts: 3554 Location: Long Beach, CA
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 Re: Getting dropped to the game menu while running wsst
Kaus wrote: Helix wrote: I will give it another shot tonight, while I was testing the wsst some exuberant trader killed me lol
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To clarifiy, the drop to the game menu only happened when I had WSST set to drop off cash in the Cit. When WSST was set to hold the cash there was no problem I collected 267 mill before another trader in the game killed me.
I will try again when I get home since I am at work and cant watch it work or defend myself while here. But your logs don't indicate you were in cit, so I don't see the relevance. Personally it looks like the same issue we have when two players try to deploy figs at the exact same time. If jp was/is running special software that logs and causes the game to crash when a error is generated, maybe you deployed during that special moment when there is desych with the server. At least that's how it looks to me. That fighter desync is a bug. It only happened when dropping the cash in the cit (actually entering the sector where I would have dropped cash. The log shows where I was when I was kicked to the game menu and it happened every time wsst tried to enter the sector to drop cash, try it.
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| Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:10 am |
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Cruncher
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Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2001 3:00 am Posts: 4016 Location: USA
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 Re: Getting dropped to the game menu while running wsst
Helix wrote: I will focus on re-creating the issue on Thrawn's server. H Thrawn does not have the same release. His is more stable, the beta will crash more easily. JP needs the game to crash to test the software that detects the causes of the crashes. Does that make sence?
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| Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:16 pm |
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Cruncher
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Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2001 3:00 am Posts: 4016 Location: USA
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 Re: Getting dropped to the game menu while running wsst
Just a reminder to all Beta Testers:
When something out of the ordinary or expected happens, please save the cap file and send it to JP @ jpritch@eisonline.com
Add as much detail as possible in the body of the e-mail describing what was going on.
Thank you everyone for your help!
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| Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:21 pm |
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Helix
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Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:57 am Posts: 3554 Location: Long Beach, CA
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 Re: Getting dropped to the game menu while running wsst
Feel free to cut and paste my posts in your email to John
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| Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:48 pm |
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Thrawn
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Joined: Fri Aug 20, 2004 2:00 am Posts: 1801 Location: Outer Rims
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 Re: Getting dropped to the game menu while running wsst
Cruncher wrote: Helix wrote: I will focus on re-creating the issue on Thrawn's server. H Thrawn does not have the same release. His is more stable, the beta will crash more easily. JP needs the game to crash to test the software that detects the causes of the crashes. Does that make sence? I believe the Beta server is one version up from mine.
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| Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:32 pm |
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Helix
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Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:57 am Posts: 3554 Location: Long Beach, CA
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 Re: Getting dropped to the game menu while running wsst
Cruncher wrote: Helix wrote: I will focus on re-creating the issue on Thrawn's server. H Thrawn does not have the same release. His is more stable, the beta will crash more easily. JP needs the game to crash to test the software that detects the causes of the crashes. Does that make sence? You are missing the point. If I can't get a bang on a beta server to test a possible bug then why bother testing? I have better things to do that fight my way through 12 dupes and try to recreate an error. Helix
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| Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:04 pm |
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Big D
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Joined: Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:04 pm Posts: 5025
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 Re: Getting dropped to the game menu while running wsst
Actually game B is wide open for testing. Theres a no death delay, so if you get killed, you just keep a ship at 1 and come back in and hop in it. Ptorps are the only down factor in the game because you lose your turns. I've only shot torps at players a couple of times and that's because they shot at me 1st.
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| Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:43 pm |
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Cruncher
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Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2001 3:00 am Posts: 4016 Location: USA
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 Re: Getting dropped to the game menu while running wsst
Kaus wrote: But your logs don't indicate you were in cit, so I don't see the relevance. Personally it looks like the same issue we have when two players try to deploy figs at the exact same time. If jp was/is running special software that logs and causes the game to crash when a error is generated, maybe you deployed during that special moment when there is desych with the server.
At least that's how it looks to me. We have to go through JP for a game reset. I DO NOT have that access. Last night just to be certain it's not me, I let SG remote access my computer so he could view the remote sysop access I have to show me how. I don't have access to remote desktop, so I don't have access to the command center. I'm sorry, my hands are tied.
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| Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:37 am |
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Helix
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Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:57 am Posts: 3554 Location: Long Beach, CA
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 Re: Getting dropped to the game menu while running wsst
wsst has been running and depositing cash for hours now. I am running it in starwars2 on outpost-4.com
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| Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:38 am |
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Helix
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Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:57 am Posts: 3554 Location: Long Beach, CA
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 Re: Getting dropped to the game menu while running wsst
I have been running wsst for about an hour dropping cash in the cit without dropping to the menu. from game G
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| Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:06 pm |
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John Pritchett
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Joined: Sun Dec 24, 2000 3:00 am Posts: 3151 Location: USA
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 Re: Getting dropped to the game menu while running wsst
Sorry I haven't been keeping up with the posts here. I appreciate all the effort. I've just been keeping my focus on fixing bugs as I see them in the error logs, and that's keeping me pretty busy. But Cruncher and SG are keeping me updated on issues. We are making progress.
Helix, as of today, are you still getting this bug? I'm not seeing crash reports in the error log, so if it's still happening, I will try to reproduce it here and see what's going on.
Thrawn, I'm up to beta revision 16. Quite a lot has been done since the version you're running. And even though the version I'm running is less stable, it's actually less buggy. It's just that bugs that normally just cause quiet data corruption are causing crashes in this version. It's easier to track bugs that way. Once we smooth out this batch of bugs, I'll return the game to its more stable mode so that it's less likely to blow up in someone's face while they're playing.
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Singularity
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Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:00 am Posts: 5558 Location: USA
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 Re: Getting dropped to the game menu while running wsst
I've noticed that sometimes the planet number doesn't print completely. Normally it's...
--------------------------------------------- <##> blah
But sometimes I get...
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Thrawn
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Joined: Fri Aug 20, 2004 2:00 am Posts: 1801 Location: Outer Rims
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 Re: Getting dropped to the game menu while running wsst
John Pritchett wrote: Thrawn, I'm up to beta revision 16. Quite a lot has been done since the version you're running. And even though the version I'm running is less stable, it's actually less buggy. It's just that bugs that normally just cause quiet data corruption are causing crashes in this version. It's easier to track bugs that way. Once we smooth out this batch of bugs, I'll return the game to its more stable mode so that it's less likely to blow up in someone's face while they're playing. That's what I get for missing weekly memos  No worries. So far ours has been stable and no issues to report.
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Helix
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Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:57 am Posts: 3554 Location: Long Beach, CA
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 Re: Getting dropped to the game menu while running wsst
John Pritchett wrote: Helix, as of today, are you still getting this bug? I'm not seeing crash reports in the error log, so if it's still happening, I will try to reproduce it here and see what's going on.
Nope, by the time I got back in, the error causing the drop to the game menu never happened. I ran the script that caused it about 12 hours and never dropped to the game menu. H
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