Sage, I don't have a problem with you being moderator.  You stay out of the contraversy (usually) and you don't abuse your power that I've seen.  I don't agree with you on they type of games you run or the overzealous bragging about acccomplishments, but that's your server and you do what you please.  I don't have a problem with any other admin or moderator here at the current time.  There's only one that I've seen abuse his powers.
PS to Vulcan.  I don't consider this smack talk.  If stating an opinion is considered smack talk, we might as well turn this into a FAQ site, because everything else will be in the smack talk area.  BTW Vulcan, you do a very good job as admin and I know you and Zentock are close friends.  I think that's why you aren't really seeing the full picture here.

Making a personal attack is smack talk. Simple.  The easy way to tell is when a post is filled with the word "you" instead of the word "I". Or when every post refers to someone else, not the poster. And yes, an opinion can be a personal attack, especially when that opinion has been made perfectly clear 20 times before.

Cerne

Ok, by your definition, this post you just posted is smack talk. It's your opinion, but it was clearly directed at me.
Should I consider this as a personal attack?  I don't consider as that.
Should we both be banned?  Not in my opinion.
I mean we have to draw the line somewhere.  The thing is, everyone's line is in a different spot.  You have posted many more times than 20 that you don't like smack, but it seems you always get involved in heating up the threads.  It's hard to state your opinion toward someone without useing the word "you" isn't it?
The old saying "the sqeeky wheel gets the grease" seems to fit here.
How are changes for the better supposed to be made without people expressing thier opinions?  We all don't agree, but that's the best think about "Free Speech", we don't have to agree and yet no one will be shot for it.

I started a new thread in the smack talk area.  It seems that's the only place to state an opinion these days.
Thread title is "Censorship?"