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| Author: | Parrothead [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Distribution of mcic ports |
Anyone know the mcic of the median or average port. |
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| Author: | Singularity [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Distribution of mcic ports |
For EQ? -42 is the median. Average? Varies from bang to bang. It's going to be -42 +/- some variance, but exactly what variance... no way to know without knowing every port. |
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| Author: | Parrothead [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Distribution of mcic ports |
So it is a random event with each port generation then? |
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| Author: | Singularity [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Distribution of mcic ports |
Well it's based on the seed. There's a correlation between the seed and the port layout. So it's as random as the bang seed is, however random that is from sysop to sysop. |
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| Author: | Parrothead [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Distribution of mcic ports |
So in other words there is no way (from the player side) to detect an average mcic from the game specks i.e port density etc. |
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| Author: | Singularity [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Distribution of mcic ports |
No, to do that you would have to add up all of the MCICs that occur and divide by the number of ports. Since each MCIC spawns by the seed, you can't really know unless you know the seed. With that said, there's an obvious top and bottom, so you can easily determine the median for comparison values. |
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| Author: | Big D [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Distribution of mcic ports |
Singularity wrote: No, to do that you would have to add up all of the MCICs that occur and divide by the number of ports. Since each MCIC spawns by the seed, you can't really know unless you know the seed. With that said, there's an obvious top and bottom, so you can easily determine the median for comparison values. That's what I was going to say. If you take the maximum and the minimum values add them together and divide by 2, that should put you pretty close to average. That is IF the maximum and minimum values are constant variables and apply to all seeds. |
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| Author: | Parrothead [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Distribution of mcic ports |
Big D wrote: That's what I was going to say. If you take the maximum and the minimum values add them together and divide by 2, that should put you pretty close to average. That is IF the maximum and minimum values are constant variables and apply to all seeds. (20+65)/2=42.5 Median Value Average is different. I was looking for some other than random value pattern that the game might or might not use. |
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| Author: | Big D [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Distribution of mcic ports |
Parrothead wrote: Big D wrote: That's what I was going to say. If you take the maximum and the minimum values add them together and divide by 2, that should put you pretty close to average. That is IF the maximum and minimum values are constant variables and apply to all seeds. (20+65)/2=42.5 Median Value Average is different. I was looking for some other than random value pattern that the game might or might not use. Yes. As Sing said, I think each seed may vary one way or the other to an extent. So a precise value probably would be hard to calculate. |
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| Author: | ElderProphet [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Distribution of mcic ports |
Heh, since Traitor isn't around to say it, I'll stand in. http://www.tw-cabal.com/strategy/economy2.html I'll go ahead and paste the pertinent stuff though: So, I decided to track the frequency of ports, and found that the distribution was flat, and that you can expect there to be approximately 21 equipment ports for each value of MCIC, 21 organics ports for each value of MCIC, and 19 fuel ore ports for each value of MCIC. However, you're just as likely to find a -65 EQ, -20 org, -90 fuel port as you will a 20 eq, 75 org, 20 fuel port. Basically, in an average bang, there will be 126 buy EQ ports at -60 or less. He is talking about a 5K bang, 45% density, 95% built. Regards, +EP+ |
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| Author: | Singularity [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Distribution of mcic ports |
Right, so there's no standard port average, distribution is random based on the seed. |
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| Author: | Parrothead [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Distribution of mcic ports |
Singularity wrote: Right, so there's no standard port average, distribution is random based on the seed. Too bad but it makes the coding for the project simpler. |
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