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Thrawn wrote:

SWATH, TW-ATTAC, TWXProxy are the only helpers left. There was JTWAT but it long since died off. ZOC is a terminal program, but it has some scripts that work great, and combined with TWXProxy it's a good choice.

Kaus wrote:

http://twdata.sourceforge.net/kokua/

Also free, also seems to have gone the way of inexistance.

Kane wrote:

4.15 is last version of zoc that will work with rev helper, all though i think rev might have redone his scripts to work with newer v's so yeah i guess well ahve to wait for Rev to chime in.

Father Cajone wrote:

I agree Thrawn...but using ZOC you need to use the version that is posted at Grimy.... newer versions have some conflicts with the scripts avaliable since it is written in the rexx code. Rev might be able to shed more light on that issue since his bot and scripts are the best for ZOC and he has worked with the German developers. I happen to like ZOC for the added features enabling file transfers and quite a bit more with other ZOC users plus it does not require FamNet to be onlne to allow SWATH to authorize it being used...and yes I know there is an option to run SWATH if FamNet is down for any strange reason.

Big D wrote:

What did he say?

Author:	RajuAbju [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:02 pm ]
Post subject:	Another SWATH question
I use Swath. I love Swath. I'm just wondering, if Swath the only TW2002 helper program still under development today? Are there any others I dont know about? I realize even Swath doesnt get updated all that frequently, but just wanted to see if there are other choices for TW that perhaps I don't know about. Also, does TWXProxy still get updated, or is 2.04 considered the 'last' release?

Author:	ElderProphet [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:19 pm ]
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TWX is still being developed. I'll try to redo the TWX site soon, as this is really where TWX news and updates should be hosted. +EP+

Author:	Thrawn [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:26 pm ]
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SWATH, TW-ATTAC, TWXProxy are the only helpers left. There was JTWAT but it long since died off. ZOC is a terminal program, but it has some scripts that work great, and combined with TWXProxy it's a good choice.

Author:	Father Cajone [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:03 pm ]
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I agree Thrawn...but using ZOC you need to use the version that is posted at Grimy.... newer versions have some conflicts with the scripts avaliable since it is written in the rexx code. Rev might be able to shed more light on that issue since his bot and scripts are the best for ZOC and he has worked with the German developers. I happen to like ZOC for the added features enabling file transfers and quite a bit more with other ZOC users plus it does not require FamNet to be onlne to allow SWATH to authorize it being used...and yes I know there is an option to run SWATH if FamNet is down for any strange reason.

Author:	Kane [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:09 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Another SWATH question
4.15 is last version of zoc that will work with rev helper, all though i think rev might have redone his scripts to work with newer v's so yeah i guess well ahve to wait for Rev to chime in.

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Author:	Promethius [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:22 pm ]
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Thrawn wrote: SWATH, TW-ATTAC, TWXProxy are the only helpers left. There was JTWAT but it long since died off. ZOC is a terminal program, but it has some scripts that work great, and combined with TWXProxy it's a good choice. There is a helper called GATH that is out - can't tell you much about it other than it is free. http://goffconcepts.com/products/window ... index.html

Author:	Kaus [ Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:57 am ]
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http://twdata.sourceforge.net/kokua/ Also free, also seems to have gone the way of inexistance.

Author:	Thrawn [ Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:07 am ]
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Kaus wrote: http://twdata.sourceforge.net/kokua/ Also free, also seems to have gone the way of inexistance. I forgot about Kokua. We actually use that on or website if you want to play using "java telnet". It is actually not bad to use in that instance.

Author:	the reverend [ Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:00 am ]
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Kane wrote: 4.15 is last version of zoc that will work with rev helper, all though i think rev might have redone his scripts to work with newer v's so yeah i guess well ahve to wait for Rev to chime in. revhelper has been updated to support ZOC 5.x. however, the download page is on the fritz, so you can't actually get the scripts right now, but i will be posting a new link to them soon. also, i'm working on a new helper called Zyrain... watch this space for updates, but don't hold your breath.

Author:	Thrawn [ Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:11 pm ]
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Father Cajone wrote: I agree Thrawn...but using ZOC you need to use the version that is posted at Grimy.... newer versions have some conflicts with the scripts avaliable since it is written in the rexx code. Rev might be able to shed more light on that issue since his bot and scripts are the best for ZOC and he has worked with the German developers. I happen to like ZOC for the added features enabling file transfers and quite a bit more with other ZOC users plus it does not require FamNet to be onlne to allow SWATH to authorize it being used...and yes I know there is an option to run SWATH if FamNet is down for any strange reason. Nod. I also like ZOC for when I am mobile and can't get SWATH to authenticate, especially in my career field. Plus ZOC integrated nicely with our ScoreKeeper program I wrote for all our automated tasks. I can have the multiple instances start up with no issues, where on the occassion SWATH would have a start up error. ZOC/SWATH/TWXProxy combo is still our choice. I run both at same time. If I want the map, I use SWATH. Most scripts I use ZOC.

Author:	the reverend [ Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:13 pm ]
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new revhelper link: https://svn.thereverend.org:8443/svn/public/revhelper/, ignore the security warning and enter username "guest" with no password.

Author:	Kane [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:18 pm ]
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Hey rev its not working. tried the Guest thing but says not valid.

Author:	Singularity [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:46 pm ]
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VisualSVN... Right Thing. Done Right. Better than a left thing left undone I guess, or a right thing done wrong. Or a wrong thing done right, altho perhaps not better than a wrong thing done wrong, or so I hear.

Author:	Big D [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:40 am ]
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What did he say?

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Author:	Promethius [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:39 am ]
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Big D wrote: What did he say? Not sure but I think he is heading into politics and getting in a little practice. To break it down: "Better than a left thing left undone I guess, or a right thing done wrong. Or a wrong thing done right, altho perhaps not better than a wrong thing done wrong, or so I hear." left thing left undone - left somthing left unfinished right thing done wrong -- did the right thing but did it wrong (hit the brakes, but pushed too hard - rearended by another car.) wrong thing done right -- made a mistake, but did it right -- should have hit the clutch, easy on the brake wrong thing done wrong -- kissed the girlfriend's best friend in front of the girlfriend (wrong and wrong). Back on topic - I got on Rev's site w/o any problem. Kind of different, but worked well.