I just learned how rusty my C skills are by trying to convert the TWCalc VB fuctions to C for Earth's ATTAC program to use.
I have been programming in VB for far too long. Time to learn new things.
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| Author: | Orion_Blastar [ Thu Jan 01, 2004 10:07 pm ] |
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I have ATTAC registered, but its explore script doesn't scan all the time and gets me podded. I just registered SWATH, and its World Explore script is a missing feature, d'oh! I got TWX but I am still learning it. What is the best explore script to use? I should think an explore script should: #1 Scan for figs, planets, mines, and avoid sectors. #2 Use a holoscanner or density scanner for scanning which should be user configurable to save turns. #3 Drop figs for griding as you explore. #4 Trade at ports and turn haggle on or off. #5 Keep track of class 9 and class 0 ports in a database to find them later. #6 Follow the TW computer path, or have an option to explore every sector in a bubble or part of the universe. Also how does one learn how to write scripts? What is the best language to learn? REXX and TWX seem to be very popular. But some helpers like SWATH and DRoP use Javascript, which I already know and just need to learn how to parse telnet data and store/read in databases. My languages I know are: Visual BASIC Javascript Turbo Pascal C Language I know others, but haven't used them since college, like COBOL, FORTRAN, Assembly, etc. |
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| Author: | Grazhoppa [ Fri Jan 02, 2004 12:15 am ] |
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Most 'exploring' scripts don't trade- the only one that I know of, is 1_trade.ts.. I think it drops figs under ports, and TWX does everything else automatically (it's all stored in the database). However, 1_trade.ts does NOT automatically AVOID anything, nor does it haggle, of course, since it is an open source script, neither of the 2 would be hard to impliment. Neither would creating a script from scratch, with a pretty menu, to do all the above items listed. Hope I was usefull. Grazhoppa |
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| Author: | Harley Nuss [ Fri Jan 02, 2004 12:59 am ] |
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quote:Originally posted by Orion_Blastar I have ATTAC registered, but its explore script doesn't scan all the time and gets me podded. I just registered SWATH, and its World Explore script is a missing feature, d'oh! I got TWX but I am still learning it. What is the best explore script to use? I should think an explore script should: #1 Scan for figs, planets, mines, and avoid sectors. #2 Use a holoscanner or density scanner for scanning which should be user configurable to save turns. #3 Drop figs for griding as you explore. #4 Trade at ports and turn haggle on or off. #5 Keep track of class 9 and class 0 ports in a database to find them later. #6 Follow the TW computer path, or have an option to explore every sector in a bubble or part of the universe. Also how does one learn how to write scripts? What is the best language to learn? REXX and TWX seem to be very popular. But some helpers like SWATH and DRoP use Javascript, which I already know and just need to learn how to parse telnet data and store/read in databases. My languages I know are: Visual BASIC Javascript Turbo Pascal C Language I know others, but haven't used them since college, like COBOL, FORTRAN, Assembly, etc. SWATH uses java, not javascript. It's my understanding that when drop is realeased, you can use any language you can compile with .net compatible compiler. Personally, I like REXX but of what's currently out there, you'd probably be better off learning the TWX language. |
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| Author: | rompca [ Fri Jan 02, 2004 1:15 am ] |
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I use a "tweaked" version of the VitoTrade script for SWATH. It's tweaked to not enter a sector over a specific density EVER (can be adjusted from the GUI), along with some other helpful adds. However, by itself the VitoTrade script is pretty Darn nice. It's just difficult to use in a game with a lot of hazards. |
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| Author: | Kavanagh [ Fri Jan 02, 2004 1:02 pm ] |
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If you are familar with C, I suggest you try Telix as a terminal program. Telix SALT programming language is based on C and is very similar; much of the syntax and many functions are identical. It is freeware. http://sac-ftp.externet.hu/comm21.html The files you need are: tfw115d1.zip and tfw115d2.zip I use it with an offline database/helper called Tradewars Assistant or twassist. Also free, at the bottom of the following page: http://home.sprintmail.com/~albingersich/ quote:Originally posted by Orion_Blastar I have ATTAC registered, but its explore script doesn't scan all the time and gets me podded. I just registered SWATH, and its World Explore script is a missing feature, d'oh! I got TWX but I am still learning it. What is the best explore script to use? I should think an explore script should: #1 Scan for figs, planets, mines, and avoid sectors. #2 Use a holoscanner or density scanner for scanning which should be user configurable to save turns. #3 Drop figs for griding as you explore. #4 Trade at ports and turn haggle on or off. #5 Keep track of class 9 and class 0 ports in a database to find them later. #6 Follow the TW computer path, or have an option to explore every sector in a bubble or part of the universe. Also how does one learn how to write scripts? What is the best language to learn? REXX and TWX seem to be very popular. But some helpers like SWATH and DRoP use Javascript, which I already know and just need to learn how to parse telnet data and store/read in databases. My languages I know are: Visual BASIC Javascript Turbo Pascal C Language I know others, but haven't used them since college, like COBOL, FORTRAN, Assembly, etc. |
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| Author: | Wildstar [ Fri Jan 02, 2004 2:38 pm ] |
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I have a sript like what you are looking for,but it does not trade.Your best bet would be to run a worldtrade and set the boundries the best you can.Cherokee has a cool scout script thats good about not going into sectors with stuff in it.I might just try to write that one.Sounds like a good idea.And as for the class O,if you run swathmwhen it sees a Class O,it puts the sector numbers in the bottom right corner. Hoe it helps. |
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| Author: | Orion_Blastar [ Fri Jan 02, 2004 4:05 pm ] |
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I just learned how rusty my C skills are by trying to convert the TWCalc VB fuctions to C for Earth's ATTAC program to use.
I have been programming in VB for far too long. Time to learn new things. |
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| Author: | rompca [ Fri Jan 02, 2004 4:11 pm ] |
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I can relate. Try going from a VB (.NET) shop to a C# shop. Ugh! [:D] If you get stuck on some of the functions, I know there are some good VB to C (or C#) converters online. I don't have my bookmarks to any though... sorry. -chris- |
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| Author: | Orion_Blastar [ Fri Jan 02, 2004 11:49 pm ] |
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I'd rather do it by hand. I've seen conversion programs and they usually produce buggy code that needs major debugging. Besides this is a good way for me to learn.
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| Author: | Orion_Blastar [ Sat Jan 03, 2004 12:05 am ] |
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quote: SWATH uses java, not javascript. It's my understanding that when drop is realeased, you can use any language you can compile with .net compatible compiler. Personally, I like REXX but of what's currently out there, you'd probably be better off learning the TWX language. If you have access to the DRoP Yahoo Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/drop_proxy/message/8 quote: DRoP will support two methods of programatic interfacing. The Microsoft Script Engine will be embedded into the proxy, allowing people to write scripts in JavaScript or VBScript. We will be exposing the data model as objects to the script environment so that people may script against it. As developers, we understand the needs of scripters, and intend to make scripting as easy as possible in this realm, by negating the need for the average developer to write breadth first search routines, or for that matter, any node traversal. Hopefully this will allow for some pretty neat automation, as developers can focus more on the overall concepts than the nitty gritty details. We will also be providing a custom code encrypter, so people may distribute secure code. The proxy will be the only application (hopefully) that will be able to decode and execute the scripts. The second programatic interface will be using Microsoft's .NET remoting technology. This feature will appeal more to the hardcore programmer, or the professional. The advantages of .NET remoting include compiled logic, real time updates of the data model to script against (it uses a proxy object), the ability to use any .NET compileable language, real data types, etc etc etc. We are both right, it will use Microsoft scripting for Javascript and VBScript, as well as .NET language interfaces. http://www.swath.net/?page=scripts My mistake I read it as Javascripts when it is really Java Scripts. Two words not one. Looks like I found a Smart Expore script that might do what I want. [:D] |
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| Author: | Artelis [ Sat Jan 03, 2004 4:39 am ] |
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J-TWAT has an explore script that trades and haggles, but you'd have to mod it to avoid sectors with a certain density. |
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| Author: | rompca [ Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:32 am ] |
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Wait... you're telling me there's REALLY a program called "J-TWAT" ???? Sorry, I couldn't resist. No, I'm not 10. 
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| Author: | Grazhoppa [ Sat Jan 03, 2004 12:56 pm ] |
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I felt the same when they first released it
I think I accually suggested "A-Twat" I don't think I got a response though.. Graz |
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| Author: | Tradewarrior55 [ Sat Jan 03, 2004 1:55 pm ] |
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yes Virginia there is a J-Twat..... |
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| Author: | Tradewarrior55 [ Sat Jan 03, 2004 2:03 pm ] |
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http://sourceforge.net/projects/j-twat/ Java-Trade Wars Attack Terminal |
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