Presuming your correct, the solution Vid is not to "rewrite all these scripts" it's just not realistic.

A plausible solution is to include more flavor text or restrict the setting so sysop's (who are often not players) are aware; "Hey we might be breaking our client's helpers/scripts".

V2's mission as I understand it is to help cox fresh meat, *cough* "new players" to the game while support that game in its current state for existing while minimizing issues.


Your among the minority of player who:
a) Actively script
b) Has the time to fix these issues


You have the fix but won't share it? Thxs


Glad we have you to put JP's mind to rest. It's unbelievable hes been chasing his tail at all with you helping him solo. It must be a incredible weight on your shoulder being the only bug-tester that... wait... this isn't a bug at all it's a feature.

It's a feature I purpose we re-look at, guess I lost you there.

Kaus , I was just pointing out it is not J.P.'s responsibility to fix TWGS to accommodate a poorly written script.

As for sharing , I don't know with the attitude you show ... that I should.

But maybe in a week I might change my mind if you can find some civility.
I have already explained for those who can script , how to fix this .. so I would not be the only one capable of producing this fix.

So keeping things secret was not my intention.

That's the issue, your assuming it the script based off your ability without any regard for external variables. Your so convinced its only one thing you build off it the entire post.

Interjecting into post's where we have the developer actively engaged in collaboration on a issue with your sidebars and self promotion is destructive to the conversation. I count no less than three otherwise would be bug threads where you make the same assumption and propose a standard for submitting said bugs.

The issues I expressed that are experienced by other players include private scripts by advanced scripter's. I have addressed those player's concern's privately with JP. The topic of Ping emulation through the last three pages has less to do with bug's in script's and more to do with the changes happening in V2 whether large chunk based like JP suggest's or otherwise.

To suggest that it's not JP job to make sure TWGS work's with poorly written script's is ridiculous. I'm not suggesting he cater to the large percentage of players who actively use these poorly written scripts in V1 and now don't work because of how poorly they were written for a accelerate V2 or anything.

Am I?


Any attitude you see in my post's is projected.



Re-read your statement, "maybe" and only if I'm "civil" you will bless those less fortunate with the fix to a bug in Twx 2.05? I guess it's better than the first time when you made no such commitment.

Again, thxs...

Be sure to back up your original , just so if you do not like this or experience troubles you can go back to the one you used before.


This fixes the includes issue that waits for <info> prompt , and will cause
twx 2.05 to try to buy org when you were buying fuel only.

Try yours , then try this one .. in TWGS 2.xx and twx proxy 2.05 with win7

See which works best on a SSB port (that was our test problem)
I do not have win7 , so the change made no difference except the sometimes sticking at : waitfor <info>

This has been fixed with the include file fix I mentioned at the top of this post.

They both work fine for me, it's obvious we have a difference of opinions on what is causing the issue. Thank you for offering a solution, I'd still like to get others to weigh in on issue they face with helpers and 0ms ping emulation.