Does anyone know when the auth servers will permanently go offline? I haven't played in a while but when I get the opportunity I don't feel comfortable using a pseudo TWX. I love Xide's work and want to continue to use it...what can we do to resolve this auth server going offline issue? Is there a cost involved or host or what?

HHH

Use TWX 2.03. All the pack 2 scripts are unlocked and don't require an auth server. CK's stuff has been recompiled for it too, so as not to require auth.

i hade a question, im trying to use the 2.05rc? TWX
Big prob is it is not 800 X 600 res frendly, it would be nice
if this little or big prop, whatever it is fixed?
or is it a lost cause, and im SOL?

I talked to WABBIT about charging for this new version of TWX, at first, I was just like you Zark, I thought, how the hell can you charge for this product when you just added on to what was already done?

But then it occured to me, he has done ALOT of hard work bringing this new TWX version to life, and some reperation for his own add ons is in line. He has been working hard...he deserves some props, but so does EP, both are great guys, and I hope that nothing comes between two of the best scripters/programmers in the game today.

I will pay WABBIT.

Yes! That's a good idea! Go ahead and charge money for your version Wabbit. Really! Best idea I've heard in years.

quote:Originally posted by GodZilla

i hade a question, im trying to use the 2.05rc? TWX
Big prob is it is not 800 X 600 res frendly, it would be nice
if this little or big prop, whatever it is fixed?
or is it a lost cause, and im SOL?


First, you are not SOL on this.

Vid Kid brought this to my attention on 5/14 @ 9:35PM MTD.

Here is his statement to me about it:


before I got a chance to question him on it, he sent this additional information:



And here is my responce:



and his following two replies:



and



The rest of the conversation delt with trying to get more information from him on this problem. But, he had very limited information. but, he did stated that there was some post here on EIS about it. But, at this very moment. I can not seem to find the post that he was talking about. (According to the forums, your post was made ealier today.)

So, I went and attempted to see what was being stated and try to fix it. At that time, without actuall information on this problem. I did not know if it was a low resolution problem, or a high resolution problem. And I was not able to reproduce this on my end. And he was currently able to test to see if it could be reproduced on his end.

There was only one thing that I could think of that could make sure it was not a problem, for future versions, in either low/high resolutions.

So, my last comment to Vid Kid on this matter was:


And with that I created a build, zipped it up and placed for immediate download. And updated the Main page of the TWX Proxy Group's webpage with that information and updated the download links.

yes, it is a version update. This does not include any additional feactures or changes. It is just an bug fix to take care of this issue, and one that seems to be plaquing TWX when compiled under Delphi 7.

As stated previously in the Changes.txt file in the distrobution. All bug fixes will have the last digit of the version number updated. While all versions with new general features/changes will have the minor version number updated.

quote:Originally posted by Daniel_E_Higginbotham

I talked to WABBIT about charging for this new version of TWX, at first, I was just like you Zark, I thought, how the hell can you charge for this product when you just added on to what was already done?

But then it occured to me, he has done ALOT of hard work bringing this new TWX version to life, and some reperation for his own add ons is in line. He has been working hard...he deserves some props, but so does EP, both are great guys, and I hope that nothing comes between two of the best scripters/programmers in the game today.

I will pay WABBIT.


Ender, you need to bring up the ICQ history log of that whole conversation, and reread it.

quote:Originally posted by Traitor

Yes! That's a good idea! Go ahead and charge money for your version Wabbit. Really! Best idea I've heard in years.


Traitor, I'm sure that you are going to do your best to look for any kind of hidden meaning in my written statements below. Or that you are just going to twist what I have written below to suit your goals for EP's ownership of TWX. (Just like your statement about my supposed announcement claiming that I OWNED, or was going to OWN, TWX.)

But, I still have to correct Enders statements. And any false information given by him, or anyone else that might be talking on my behalf with out my knowledge or permission.



First...

I have never stated publically or privately to anyone, including Ender. That I was going to charge any of kind fee for TWX. Let me make this clear: I have no desire to charge any kind of fee for TWX.


Second...

The conversation that Ender is referring to. Was a conversation that was originally about another project that I am working on. Where after a while the conversation eventually turned to one about TWX and my other project.

When I brought up the topic that I was going to be charging a fee for my other project. He had mistakenly took it to mean that I was going to charge for TWX.

And I flat out corrected him on that fact. That... NO, I was not going to, nor had I ever planed to, charge a fee for TWX. And that the fee I was talking about, was for my other project not TWX.

And I gave him the following reasons as to why I could not charge a fee for TWX.

1) The GNU license does not allow for the charging of any fee for the OpenSource program itself, period. As such I could never even think about possibly charging a fee.

2) Although the GNU license does allow for the charging of the delivery of the OpenSource product, or the storage of the OpenSource product if it is delivered by electronic means. And since all of the files are being delivered by electronic means. While not being stored on, or even severed by, servers that are not my own. (But are servers that are available to the project for free.) There is no way that I could, in good conscience, charge any fee for delivery/storage.

3) Although the GNU license does allow for the changing for Tech. Support for the OpenSource product. But, who in their right mind would pay a fee for Tech. Support for TWX? Especially when there are quite a few places on the net. Where all one has to do, is go to any one of those websites and get the support they need for free. As such, there is no way that I could, in good conscience, charge any kind of fee for Tech. Support.

quote:Originally posted by supgdotnet

Wabbit,

I don't think it's appropriate for you, with your tongue in cheek approach, to be bashing EP or anyone who wishes to improve upon TWX as they see fit.


Well, I'm sorry that you think of my post inreply to Maniac was bashing of other EP or others. But unlike others, I state what I intend to say. And I do not attempt to hide any meaning in what I have to say.

But, the previous conversations by most of the posters in this thread. Have either stated out right, or hinted to, that EP was the OWNER of TWX. And that any OFFICIAL releases of TWX would be done only by EP. And how any version of TWX, or any opensource project for that matter, it would be a poor of an excuse version of TWX Proxy. And that they were not going to have anything to do with.

And in my first conversation with EP about TWX Proxy, for which he himself requested. EP had specifically stated, 'That he was not going to have anything to do with any development team. That handled, or treated, TWX as an opensource project.' And in a later message that I had received from him. He specifically stated that he owned TWX, and that all official versions of TWX was going to be released by him. When ever he thought it best for the users. Since this was different from his own statements made here weeks prior. I have honored his, and everyone else, statements.

I have referred to my version of TWX as the 'poor of an excuse version'. Just as everyone here on EIS has wanted to say, but will only hint at. And I have also publically stated that EP OWNS the OFFICIAL version of TWX. Just as they wanted it to be, and as EP has stated to me.


quote:Originally posted by supgdotnet

It is Open Source, meaning, do what you want with it, just give credit where it is due.


Oh, I give credit to everyone that has had some part in the current version of TWX Proxy Pro. Even thoes that have requested something to be added to TWX Proxy. I have not removed any information originally found in the v2.03 binary, or source, distributions. This includes any and all credits to anyone, including Xide, that was in any of the files.

quote:Originally posted by supgdotnet

Why should you care anyway? If your release is better than EP's or anyone elses, it will rise to the top and be the most popular and most used version.

The fact is, it does not matter to me. But, it does matter to EP and his, ahem, supporters.
quote:Originally posted by supgdotnet

Just stick to your project and don't worry about the others, especially if you are going to be an Butt about it.


If my stating here what everyone else will only hint to, or state in private. And/or if my giving to the 'TW GODS' that which they truelly want. Makes me an Butt in your eyes, then so be it.



As for my comment about unnecessary bloat and Traitor's all powerful God like knowledge. Well, Traitor has already claimed that he can do the exact same changes, and additions, to the original TWX v2.03 source code. But, the resultant binary will not have any bloat. And do it in the same amount of time, or less.

Since Traitor has never claimed that he has ever programmed with Delphi. I can only assume, based on his previous claims, that he has and that he also knows about the issue that all versions of Delphi have when building a Windows project. And what is this issue? Delphi never builds a Windows project on one Windows system. That is the exact same size as the same Windows project that is built on another Windows system. And that is with using the exact same source code, the exact same version of Delphi (including using the updates), and the exact same compiler settings.

Lets put that aside for now, and look at other things.

In information that Xide was nice enough to give with the source code for TWX Proxy v2.03. He states that TWX Proxy was programmed using Delphi 5. But, he does not state which version of Delphi 5, nor does he state which of the Delphi 5 updates he was using.

Then there was the issue with the original TWX Proxy v2.03 code. With it as it was released by Xide, it would compile under Delphi 5. But, it would not compile under Delphi 7, 8 or even 2005. You do not have to believe me on this, just ask EP he can verify this. To fix this, three (3) lines of code in TCP.pas had to be changed. (I assume that EP made the exact same changes.) These changes, although minor in appearance, actually changes the initial behaviour of a procedure in that specific source code file. While at the same time preserving the original output of that procedure.

So, with TWX Proxy v2.03 after being built with an unknown version of Delphi 5 with unknown updates. It has a file size, as reported by the DOS shell, of 872,448K.

While my release of v2.05RC having been built with Delphi 7 Enterprise w/ Update 2. And the code has the fix necessary to compile the code under D7, and newer. Along with the changes and fixes outlined between v2.03 and v2.05RC. Yet it only has a file size of 984,576K, again as reported by the DOS shell.

And the latest build that I have, v2.11, is built under Delphi 2005 Enterprise w/ update 1. And it only has a file size of 1,006,592K, as reported by the DOS shell.

And this is bloat?

Oh wait a minute, maybe I am wrong on this. Maybe it is because of v2.03 Build 13 that I released. Yes, it was bloated. Why, because of all of the debug/testing code that Xide has for use in debugging or testing of TWX. And my mistake in not making sure to turn off all specific compiler options. So that all of that debug/testing code was not in the final build.

But, then again... I could still be wrong about the whole thing. At which point it still comes down to Traitor’s all powerful God like knowledge. For which I will have to grovel at his feet, like the low life scum that he states that I am.

Wabbit - quit spreading misinformation. No one here has stated that EP owns TWX or is going to release the only official version. Get the chip off you shoulder.

You just don't get it Wabbit, you seem to think that just because there are other people working on TWX that they are all out to get you... So what EP didn't want to work with you, I wouldn't either, as you have shown your true colors by your posts in these threads.

You need to lighten your attitude in my opinion.

quote:Originally posted by Harley Nuss (teamEIS)

Wabbit - quit spreading misinformation. No one here has stated that EP owns TWX or is going to release the only official version. Get the chip off you shoulder.


Oh, that is very big of you. Tell the lowly person that tells the truth, they are spreading misinformation/lies. While at the same time you allow everyone else to post misinformation at will. And yet you never repremand them for their actions.

Talk about being baised. If I did not know any better, I would have to say that it seems that you are receiving special favours from all of them.

Grow up Wabbit. People dislike you because you have an attitude problem, not because of anything to do with TWX. If you're so convinced that you're better than everyone else maybe you should start acting like it instead of tossing out petty insults every other sentence.

quote:Originally posted by The WABBIT

quote:Originally posted by Harley Nuss (teamEIS)

Wabbit - quit spreading misinformation. No one here has stated that EP owns TWX or is going to release the only official version. Get the chip off you shoulder.


Oh, that is very big of you. Tell the lowly person that tells the truth, they are spreading misinformation/lies. While at the same time you allow everyone else to post misinformation at will. And yet you never repremand them for their actions.

Talk about being baised. If I did not know any better, I would have to say that it seems that you are receiving special favours from all of them.




It's a good thing you know better.

I think its an oxymoron to claim ownership of an open source project.

I have far too much respect for Remco to make any such claim of ownership.

Wabbit, I encourage you to develop TWX just as you have been, which has been positive in my opinion. But if you want your project to gain support, you should find a different spokesperson. All of your hard work is neutralized the minute you open your mouth in these forums.

+EP+