View unanswered posts | View active topics It is currently Sun Apr 19, 2026 5:45 am



Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 
 HVS 
Author Message
Commander

Joined: Thu Oct 17, 2002 2:00 am
Posts: 1159
Unread post HVS
I'm playing on the HVS version 2.03 on swamp bbs. I noticed TWX is not working properly but swath seems to run fine. Is there a version of twx that would work or was twx written after HVS for a newer version of twar? Kinda lost.. heh


Fri May 20, 2011 12:11 pm
Profile
Ambassador
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2001 3:00 am
Posts: 4016
Location: USA
Unread post Re: HVS
Comet wrote:
I'm playing on the HVS version 2.03 on swamp bbs. I noticed TWX is not working properly but swath seems to run fine. Is there a version of twx that would work or was twx written after HVS for a newer version of twar? Kinda lost.. heh


The only TWX scripts that work are moving stuff or colos. MomBot does NOT work at all in HVS.

Swath - everything except turbo mode works.

Reason being - abort on display was added later in TWG, TWX and MomBot scripts rely on abort display to run. Swath turbo needs abort display.

This is "Old School TW" baby! :lol:

It's still fully scriptable, I write simple macros & scripts in Zoc. You could probably edit TWX scripts or write them from scratch.

_________________

BOTE 1998 Champs: Team Fament
HHT 2015 Champs: Cloud09
Big Game 2016 Champs: Draft team
HHT 2018 Champs: Rock Stars
Big Game 2019 Champs: Draft Team


Classic Style Games Here:
telnet://crunchers-twgs.com:2002

Web page from 1990's: https://web.archive.org/web/20170103155645/http://tradewars.fament.com/Cruncher/tradewar.htm
Blog with current server info: http://cruncherstw.blogspot.com
Discord: https://discord.gg/4dja5Z8
E-mail: Cruncherstw@gmail.com
FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/CrunchersTW


Fri May 20, 2011 5:13 pm
Profile ICQ WWW
Immortal Op

Joined: Thu May 29, 2008 9:04 am
Posts: 143
Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
Unread post Re: HVS
Cruncher wrote:

Swath - everything except turbo mode works.

Reason being - abort on display was added later in TWG, TWX and MomBot scripts rely on abort display to run. Swath turbo needs abort display.




Swath trubo mode worked upto v1.9.4 (mcic additions cause turbo mode not to work in later versions of Swath)

High Velocity Tw has always had an abort display and still does. Many tw programs and scripts are geared to the key used in twgs and not the key in the hvs version.


It would be nice if someone would stop misinforming the comunity about how the hvs version works :(

_________________
Stoneslinger
http://theswampbbs.net
telnet://theswampbbs.net


Thu May 26, 2011 2:57 am
Profile WWW
Commander

Joined: Sun Feb 25, 2001 3:00 am
Posts: 1838
Location: Guam USA
Unread post Re: HVS
I'm sure mom bot and other scripts (.ts) could be mod'd
like what I did to my 12_login.ts when the new beta .v.2.14
was added to the V screen or the TWGS menu

I had it write the version type to the config data
so scripts could know what version that database was for and could do things
native to that.
eg. v.2.13 - TL - get corp planet sectors and planet types
v.2.14 - TL - get corp planet sectors , planet numbers and planet types

So a little rewrite of the offending scripts could be done
if anyone was interested , played in those games and knew how to write.

I'm not interested at this time , and don't use mom bot.
But maybe someone will step up.

_________________
TWGS V2 Vids World on Guam Port 2002
Telnet://vkworld.ddns.net:2002
Discord @ DiverDave#8374
Vid's World Discord

Founding Member -=[Team Kraaken]=- Ka Pla

Image
Winners of Gridwars 2010
MBN Fall Tournament 2011 winners Team Kraaken
Undisputed Champions of 2019 HHT Just for showing up!

The Oldist , Longist Running , Orginal Registered Owner of a TWGS server :
Vids World On Guam


Thu May 26, 2011 3:26 am
Profile WWW
Ambassador
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2001 3:00 am
Posts: 4016
Location: USA
Unread post Re: HVS
Stoneslinger wrote:
Swath trubo mode worked upto v1.9.4 (mcic additions cause turbo mode not to work in later versions of Swath)

High Velocity Tw has always had an abort display and still does. Many tw programs and scripts are geared to the key used in twgs and not the key in the hvs version.


It would be nice if someone would stop misinforming the comunity about how the hvs version works :(


Show me where in HVS you see these options?
I have TWGS and Mombot, they DO NOT work in HVS as written for TWGS.


(1) ANSI graphics - On
(2) Animation display - Off
(3) Page on messages - Off
(4) Sub-space radio channel - 29630
(5) Federation comm-link - On
(6) Receive private hails - Yes
(7) Silence ALL messages - No
(8) Change Password
(9) Abort display on keys - SPACE

(A) Message Display Mode - Compact
(B) Screen Pauses - No
(C) Online Auto Flee - Off
(E) Sector Autoreturn - Off

_________________

BOTE 1998 Champs: Team Fament
HHT 2015 Champs: Cloud09
Big Game 2016 Champs: Draft team
HHT 2018 Champs: Rock Stars
Big Game 2019 Champs: Draft Team


Classic Style Games Here:
telnet://crunchers-twgs.com:2002

Web page from 1990's: https://web.archive.org/web/20170103155645/http://tradewars.fament.com/Cruncher/tradewar.htm
Blog with current server info: http://cruncherstw.blogspot.com
Discord: https://discord.gg/4dja5Z8
E-mail: Cruncherstw@gmail.com
FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/CrunchersTW


Thu May 26, 2011 9:36 am
Profile ICQ WWW
Veteran Op

Joined: Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:04 pm
Posts: 5025
Unread post Re: HVS
I'm not sure why anyone would take the time to edit scripts for HVS. HVS is full of bugs and not worth the effort IMHO.


Thu May 26, 2011 11:15 am
Profile
Commander

Joined: Sun Feb 25, 2001 3:00 am
Posts: 1838
Location: Guam USA
Unread post Re: HVS
I agree Big D , but this isnt a debate on what is best tradewars program .. just that its out there.

Now as far as Cruncher .. what does the menu screen or V screen say as version number and such ..

So if script can see its that version , then it will never use the CN9 change
but may just buffer in a space in the script macro.

This is only an example , I believe the space has always been a abort display
and this is not something listed in CN settings.

Because we didnt use CN settings other then to turn animation off or set sub-space channel .. or maybe turn private hail/sub-space messaging on or off.

Try it in a macro .. adding spaces ... and find that version (message to determine if in HVS mode)
and I think you would understand how to make changes.

just my 2¢

_________________
TWGS V2 Vids World on Guam Port 2002
Telnet://vkworld.ddns.net:2002
Discord @ DiverDave#8374
Vid's World Discord

Founding Member -=[Team Kraaken]=- Ka Pla

Image
Winners of Gridwars 2010
MBN Fall Tournament 2011 winners Team Kraaken
Undisputed Champions of 2019 HHT Just for showing up!

The Oldist , Longist Running , Orginal Registered Owner of a TWGS server :
Vids World On Guam


Thu May 26, 2011 12:15 pm
Profile WWW
Ambassador

Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2001 3:00 am
Posts: 1410
Location: Boo! inc. Ireland
Unread post Re: HVS
There are two main reasons why many TWX scripts do not work in HVS.

The first is fundamental. The port reports, both CIM and CR, are slightly different in syntax and TWX will not read the HVS information. There are probably others but I gave up trying when I noticed that.

Next, HVS will not carry commands over past certain prompts, like TWGS can, so many TWX scripts will not work, although it wouldnt take a rocket scientist to modify them.

The HVS version running on Swamp is nowhere near as buggy as the last game I played on Eclipse before it went TWGS. It is the latest released version of HVS TW. The only bug of significance Cruncher and I found there was the port rollover bug, which does not give anyone any advantage.


Thu May 26, 2011 2:38 pm
Profile
Ambassador
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2001 3:00 am
Posts: 4016
Location: USA
Unread post Re: HVS
Vid Kid wrote:
This is only an example , I believe the space has always been a abort display
and this is not something listed in CN settings.

Because we didnt use CN settings other then to turn animation off or set sub-space channel .. or maybe turn private hail/sub-space messaging on or off.

Try it in a macro .. adding spaces ... and find that version (message to determine if in HVS mode)
and I think you would understand how to make changes.

just my 2¢


I did and adding spaces just brings everying to a halt. When I first came back I was only using Zoc and wrote a few simple macros for TWGS. I had to modify those without the spaces for them to work in HVS.

_________________

BOTE 1998 Champs: Team Fament
HHT 2015 Champs: Cloud09
Big Game 2016 Champs: Draft team
HHT 2018 Champs: Rock Stars
Big Game 2019 Champs: Draft Team


Classic Style Games Here:
telnet://crunchers-twgs.com:2002

Web page from 1990's: https://web.archive.org/web/20170103155645/http://tradewars.fament.com/Cruncher/tradewar.htm
Blog with current server info: http://cruncherstw.blogspot.com
Discord: https://discord.gg/4dja5Z8
E-mail: Cruncherstw@gmail.com
FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/CrunchersTW


Thu May 26, 2011 3:46 pm
Profile ICQ WWW
Sergeant Major
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2001 3:00 am
Posts: 69
Location: Sweden
Unread post Re: HVS
Stoneslinger wrote:
Swath trubo mode worked upto v1.9.4 (mcic additions cause turbo mode not to work in later versions of Swath)


The turbo mode is available in the Colonizer and the Planet Resource mover and it works just fine in 1.9.8 and has nothing to do with MCIC. The MCIC calculation is only done for ship trades in SWATH. (If anyone got some input for planetary trade negotiations I would be happy to add support for that too)

_________________
/Stein

SWATH: http://www.swath.net


Sat May 28, 2011 6:44 am
Profile WWW
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 10 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 12 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.
Designed by wSTSoftware.