Just now on Ice-9 I got caught-up in some sort of crazy loop that resulted in my self destruction "after" it posted to the logs a copy of my last post to Big D that must have been still on my clipboard!

When I'm playing, particularly when I'm doing my citadel upgrades I'll frequently ALT Tab between the game and my notes.

This time I must have done an ALT Q - TWGS running Mombot was not.


Blasting off from Heater

Command [TL=07:50:23]:[2534] (?=Help)? : Q
<Quit>
Confirmed? (Y/N)? No

Command [TL=07:50:22]:[2534] (?=Help)? : C
<Computer>

<Computer activated>

Computer command [TL=07:50:22]:[2534] (?=Help)? H

List by rank (T)itles or by rank (V)alues (T,V or Q to quit) ? V
Ranking Aliens...

Alien Rankings: 11/26/22 10:07:54 AM

# Rank Alignment Corp Alien Name Ship Type
--- --------------------- -- ------------------------------ ------------------
1 2,134 -278 ** Bece Tuacug Merchant Freighter
2 1,921 -268 ** Kihu Hoitheth Scout Marauder
3 1,777 46 ** Geco Duegiw BattleShip

*** Cut to save space ***

49 1 47 ** Nira Caocex Merchant Cruiser
50 1 -225 ** Gaba Kiuthen Scout Marauder

Computer command [TL=07:50:21]:[2534] (?=Help)? E

Computer command [TL=07:50:21]:[2534] (?=Help)? B


ÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛ ARE YOU SURE CAPTAIN? (Y/N) [N] No
Self Destruct Aborted...
Computer command [TL=07:50:21]:[2534] (?=Help)? P
Photon Missiles are disabled. (Sysop Configurable)

Computer command [TL=07:50:21]:[2534] (?=Help)? L

List by rank (T)itles or by rank (V)alues (T,V or Q to quit) ? T
Ranking Traders...


Trade Wars 2002 Trader Rankings : 11/26/22 10:07:55 AM

# Rank Title Corp Trader Name Ship Type
--- --------------------- -- ------------------------------ ------------------
1 Galactic Scourge 14 % Heavy Cruiser
2 Captain 1 T0yman Imperial War Dreadnaught

*** Cut to save space ***

91 Civilian ** Xanos Merchant Freighter
92 Civilian ** . Merchant Freighter

Computer command [TL=07:50:20]:[2534] (?=Help)? U
<Set TransWarp Preference>

Do you always want to be prompted (when warping) to use the
TransWarp drive? If you select No, you will have to reactivate
TransWarp availability here when you do want to use it.

Should TransWarp drive always be available? (Y/N) : No

TransWarp is temporarily disabled. Reselect this option to enable it.

Computer command [TL=07:50:20]:[2534] (?=Help)? A

Enter your general announcement now [155 chars]
mong others. His edits and his rules may be noob friendly yet there are

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mong others. His edits and his rules may be noob friendly yet there are
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Is this what you want to send universally? Yes

Computer command [TL=07:50:20]:[2534] (?=Help)? C
<Examine Ship Stats>

You call up the Ship Catalog and browse through Starship specs.

Which ship are you interested in (?=List) ?

Ship Category #0 Ship Class : *** Escape Pod ***

Basic Hold Cost: 500 Initial Holds: 1 Maximum Shields: 50
Main Drive Cost: 4,246 Max Fighters: 50 Offensive Odds: 0.8:1
Computer Cost: 4,700 Turns Per Warp: 6 Defensive Odds: 0.8:1
Ship Hull Cost: 5,000 Mine Max: 0 Beacon Max: 0
Ship Base Cost: 14,446 Genesis Max: 0 Long Range Scan: Yes
Max Figs Per Attack: 10 TransWarp Drive: No Planet Scanner: No
Maximum Holds: 5 Transport Range: 0 Photon Missiles: No

Which ship are you interested in (?=List) ?

Ship Category #13 Ship Class : T'Khasi Orion

The T'Khasi Orion is the perfect ship for traders who want the speed and
cargo capacity of the Merchant Freighter but need a bit more firepower.
Offering substantially higher combat odds and fighter capacity, the T'Khasi
Orion is an excellent intermediate ship.

Basic Hold Cost: 15,000 Initial Holds: 30 Maximum Shields: 750
Main Drive Cost: 10,000 Max Fighters: 750 Offensive Odds: 1.1:1
Computer Cost: 10,500 Turns Per Warp: 2 Defensive Odds: 1.1:1
Ship Hull Cost: 6,750 Mine Max: 5 Beacon Max: 20
Ship Base Cost: 42,250 Genesis Max: 1 Long Range Scan: Yes
Max Figs Per Attack: 250 TransWarp Drive: Yes Planet Scanner: Yes
Maximum Holds: 60 Transport Range: 3 Photon Missiles: No

Which ship are you interested in (?=List) ?

Sect 2534³Turns 868³Creds 44,442,786³Figs 5,000³Shlds 0³Hlds 255³Ore 255
Org 0³Equ 0³Col 0³Armd 0³Lmpt 0³GTorp 4³TWarp 2³Clks 1³Beacns 0³AtmDt 5
Crbo 0³EPrb 3³MDis 0³PsPrb No³PlScn Yes³LRS Holo³Aln 4,225,929³Exp 33,492
Corp 5³Ship 91 Other

Which ship are you interested in (?=List) ?
You shut off the Vid Term.

Computer command [TL=07:50:20]:[2534] (?=Help)? U
<Set TransWarp Preference>

Do you always want to be prompted (when warping) to use the
TransWarp drive? If you select No, you will have to reactivate
TransWarp availability here when you do want to use it.

Should TransWarp drive always be available? (Y/N) : Yes

TransWarp will be available for all warp jumps.

Computer command [TL=07:50:20]:[2534] (?=Help)? O

Your Ship's password is the only protection you have to keep
unauthorized personel from transporting onto your ship. Choose
a password that will not be guessed and be very careful who you
tell it to. Your last password was :

Enter a new password (up to 10 chars) : U SAID IT,
Password changed to : U SAID IT,

Should this be a (C)orporate ship or (P)ersonal ship? P

Computer command [TL=07:50:20]:[2534] (?=Help)? L

List by rank (T)itles or by rank (V)alues (T,V or Q to quit) ? T
Ranking Traders...



Trade Wars 2002 Trader Rankings : 11/26/22 10:07:56 AM

# Rank Title Corp Trader Name Ship Type
--- --------------------- -- ------------------------------ ------------------
1 Galactic Scourge 14 % Heavy Cruiser
2 Captain 1 T0yman Imperial War Dreadnaught

*** Cut to save space ***

91 Civilian ** Xanos Merchant Freighter
92 Civilian ** . Merchant Freighter

Computer command [TL=07:50:19]:[2534] (?=Help)? H

List by rank (T)itles or by rank (V)alues (T,V or Q to quit) ? T
Ranking Aliens...

Alien Rankings: 11/26/22 10:07:57 AM

# Rank Title Corp Alien Name Ship Type
--- --------------------- -- ------------------------------ ------------------
1 Robber ** Bece Tuacug Merchant Freighter
2 Smuggler Savant ** Kihu Hoitheth Scout Marauder

*** Cut to save space ***


48 Private 1st Class ** Shova Lieshej Missile Frigate
49 Civilian ** Nira Caocex Merchant Cruiser
50 Annoyance ** Gaba Kiuthen Scout Marauder

Computer command [TL=07:50:19]:[2534] (?=Help)? H

List by rank (T)itles or by rank (V)alues (T,V or Q to quit) ? T
Ranking Aliens...

Alien Rankings: 11/26/22 10:07:57 AM

# Rank Title Corp Alien Name Ship Type
--- --------------------- -- ------------------------------ ------------------
1 Robber ** Bece Tuacug Merchant Freighter
2 Smuggler Savant ** Kihu Hoitheth Scout Marauder

*** Cut to save space ***


49 Civilian ** Nira Caocex Merchant Cruiser
50 Annoyance ** Gaba Kiuthen Scout Marauder

Computer command [TL=07:50:18]:[2534] (?=Help)? H

List by rank (T)itles or by rank (V)alues (T,V or Q to quit) ? T
Ranking Aliens...

Alien Rankings: 11/26/22 10:07:58 AM

# Rank Title Corp Alien Name Ship Type
--- --------------------- -- ------------------------------ ------------------
1 Robber ** Bece Tuacug Merchant Freighter
2 Smuggler Savant ** Kihu Hoitheth Scout Marauder

*** Cut to save space ***


49 Civilian ** Nira Caocex Merchant Cruiser
50 Annoyance ** Gaba Kiuthen Scout Marauder

Computer command [TL=07:50:18]:[2534] (?=Help)?

Sub-space radio (5687): [<ENTER> for multiple lines]

's exactly the

Message sent on sub-space channel 5687.

Computer command [TL=07:50:18]:[2534] (?=Help)? R
What sector is the port in? [2534]

Commerce report for Duriron: 10:07:58 AM Sat Nov 26, 2022

Items Status Trading % of max OnBoard
----- ------ ------- -------- -------
Fuel Ore Buying 32760 100% 255
Organics Selling 32760 100% 0
Equipment Buying 24265 74% 0

Computer command [TL=07:50:18]:[2534] (?=Help)? A

Enter your general announcement now [155 chars]
n "old school mode". The only way to achieve an "old school mode" is to

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
n "old school mode". The only way to achieve an "old school mode" is to
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Is this what you want to send universally? No

Computer command [TL=07:50:18]:[2534] (?=Help)? E

The Bad Guys
Rank Title Experience Rank Title Experience
---- ---------------------- ---------- ---- --------------------- ----------
< 1> Nuisance 3rd Class 2 <12> Terrorist 4,096
< 2> Nuisance 2nd Class 4 <13> Pirate 8,192
< 3> Nuisance 1st Class 8 <14> Infamous Pirate 16,384
< 4> Menace 3rd Class 16 <15> Notorious Pirate 32,768
< 5> Menace 2nd Class 32 <16> Dread Pirate 65,536
< 6> Menace 1st Class 64 <17> Galactic Scourge 131,072
< 7> Smuggler 3rd Class 128 <18> Enemy of the State 262,144
< 8> Smuggler 2nd Class 256 <19> Enemy of the People 524,288
< 9> Smuggler 1st Class 512 <20> Enemy of Humankind 1,048,576
<10> Smuggler Savant 1,024 <21> Heinous Overlord 2,097,152
<11> Robber 2,048 <22> Prime Evil 4,194,304

Computer command [TL=07:50:17]:[2534] (?=Help)? N
<Set ANSI and misc settings>

(1) ANSI graphics - On
(2) Animation display - Off
(3) Page on messages - Off
(4) Sub-space radio channel - *****
(5) Federation comm-link - On
(6) Receive private hails - Yes
(7) Silence ALL messages - No
(8) Change Password
(9) Abort display on keys - SPACE
(A) Message Display Mode - Compact
(B) Screen Pauses - No
(C) Online Auto Flee - Off
(E) Sector Autoreturn - Off

Settings command (?=Help) [Q]

Sector Autoreturn

For games with 5,000 sectors or less, the main command prompt can
automatically return when an unambiguous sector (600+) has been entered.
For example, sector 600 is unambiguous because 6000 is an invalid sector.
It can therefore be entered in 3 digits. Sector 401 could be 401 or 4010,
and therefore requires all 4 digits. This behavior is enabled by default.

When Sector Autoreturn is disabled, a carriage return is always required
when entering a sector at the command prompt.

Because this game has more than 5,000 sectors, this setting cannot
be changed.

[Pause]

(1) ANSI graphics - On
(2) Animation display - Off
(3) Page on messages - Off
(4) Sub-space radio channel - *****
(5) Federation comm-link - On
(6) Receive private hails - Yes
(7) Silence ALL messages - No
(8) Change Password
(9) Abort display on keys - SPACE
(A) Message Display Mode - Compact
(B) Screen Pauses - No
(C) Online Auto Flee - Off
(E) Sector Autoreturn - Off

Settings command (?=Help) [Q]

When online, ship will flee automatically if attacked

(1) ANSI graphics - On
(2) Animation display - Off
(3) Page on messages - Off
(4) Sub-space radio channel - *****
(5) Federation comm-link - On
(6) Receive private hails - Yes
(7) Silence ALL messages - No
(8) Change Password
(9) Abort display on keys - SPACE
(A) Message Display Mode - Compact
(B) Screen Pauses - No
(C) Online Auto Flee - On
(E) Sector Autoreturn - Off

Settings command (?=Help) [Q]

Tactical displays will use screen pauses

(1) ANSI graphics - On
(2) Animation display - Off
(3) Page on messages - Off
(4) Sub-space radio channel - *****
(5) Federation comm-link - On
(6) Receive private hails - Yes
(7) Silence ALL messages - No
(8) Change Password
(9) Abort display on keys - SPACE
(A) Message Display Mode - Compact
(B) Screen Pauses - Yes
(C) Online Auto Flee - On
(E) Sector Autoreturn - Off

Settings command (?=Help) [Q]


[Pause]

(1) ANSI graphics - On
(2) Animation display - Off
(3) Page on messages - Off
(4) Sub-space radio channel - *****
(5) Federation comm-link - On
(6) Receive private hails - Yes
(7) Silence ALL messages - No
(8) Change Password
(9) Abort display on keys - SPACE
(A) Message Display Mode - Compact
(B) Screen Pauses - Yes
(C) Online Auto Flee - On
(E) Sector Autoreturn - Off

Settings command (?=Help) [Q]

Message display mode is now Long

(1) ANSI graphics - On
(2) Animation display - Off
(3) Page on messages - Off
(4) Sub-space radio channel - *****
(5) Federation comm-link - On
(6) Receive private hails - Yes
(7) Silence ALL messages - No
(8) Change Password
(9) Abort display on keys - SPACE
(A) Message Display Mode - Long
(B) Screen Pauses - Yes
(C) Online Auto Flee - On
(E) Sector Autoreturn - Off

Settings command (?=Help) [Q]

Computer command [TL=07:50:17]:[2534] (?=Help)? B


ÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛ ARE YOU SURE CAPTAIN? (Y/N) [N] Yes

Your Imperial Colonial Liner has been destroyed!
Your Saucer Section has been destroyed!

You will have to start over from scratch!
Maybe you'll have better luck with a different ship!


==-- Trade Wars 2002 --==

T - Play Trade Wars 2002
I - Introduction & Help
S - View Game Settings
H - High scores
X - Exit

Enter your choice: H

Ranking Traders...


Trade Wars 2002 Trader Rankings : 11/26/22 10:07:59 AM

# Rank Alignment Corp Trader Name Ship Type
--- --------------------- -- ------------------------------ ------------------
1 252,936 -4,500,000 14 % Heavy Cruiser
2 200,243 3,729,526 1 T0yman Imperial War Dreadnaught

*** Cut to save space ***


91 0 0 ** Xanos Merchant Freighter
92 0 0 ** . Merchant Freighter

[Pause]

==-- Trade Wars 2002 --==

T - Play Trade Wars 2002
I - Introduction & Help
S - View Game Settings
H - High scores
X - Exit

Enter your choice: I

...To abort the listing of instructions, press SPACE BAR while scrolling.

[Pause]

TRADE WARS 2002
Version 3

(C) Copyright 1990 - 2000 by Epic Interactive Strategy
Written by Gary Martin, Mary Ann Martin, and John Pritchett
Created by Gary and Mary Ann Martin

Trade Wars Support

http://www.eisonline.com

---------

Trade Wars 2002 combines adventure and exploration with strategy
and cooperative play in an entertaining and exciting on-line
game. You compete against other BBSers to be the most powerful
trader (or corporation of traders) in the universe. Independent
traders can compete quite effectively against large corporations.
Corporate members can perform specific duties (as directed by
their C.E.O.) in specialized ships. Traders can be "good guys" or
"bad guys" with different avenues for advancement. The universe
can be different with each new game. There is no right or wrong
[Pause]

==-- Trade Wars 2002 --==

T - Play Trade Wars 2002
I - Introduction & Help
S - View Game Settings
H - High scores
X - Exit

Enter your choice: I

...To abort the listing of instructions, press SPACE BAR while scrolling.

[Pause]

TRADE WARS 2002
Version 3

(C) Copyright 1990 - 2000 by Epic Interactive Strategy
Written by Gary Martin, Mary Ann Martin, and John Pritchett
Created by Gary and Mary Ann Martin

Trade Wars Support

http://www.eisonline.com

---------

Trade Wars 2002 combines adventure and exploration with strategy
and cooperative play in an entertaining and exciting on-line
game. You compete against other BBSers to be the most powerful
trader (or corporation of traders) in the universe. Independent
traders can compete quite effectively against large corporations.
Corporate members can perform specific duties (as directed by
their C.E.O.) in specialized ships. Traders can be "good guys" or
"bad guys" with different avenues for advancement. The universe
can be different with each new game. There is no right or wrong
[Pause]
way to play and the possible strategies are limited only by one's
imagination.


PLAYING THE GAME


*** Cut to save space ***


The Ferrengi are a greedy, cowardly group. Their primary purpose
is the speedy acquisition of money. They will steal from anyone
no matter what the person's or corporation's alignment. They
seldom engage in face-to-face combat because they prefer the
advantage of surprise when ambushing their opponent. They often
travel in groups and will spy on promising territory. After
targeting an area, they will raid the sector when it is least
defended. If they are attacked, that group will hold a grudge
against the attacker and they will not rest until they feel the
[Pause]

==-- Trade Wars 2002 --==

T - Play Trade Wars 2002
I - Introduction & Help
S - View Game Settings
H - High scores
X - Exit

Enter your choice: S

Registered to :
Version : 3.14 MBBS Gold Host type : TWGS
Age of game : 104 days Days since BIGBANG : 106 days
Delete if idle : 30 days

Players in game : 92 of max 200 Percent good : 79%
Ports in game : 14002 of max 15000 Value of ports : 1028991385
Planets in game : 1029 of max 6000 Percent w/ Citadels : 87%
Ships in game : 298 of max 2000 Corps in game : 26
Figs in game : 107855120 Mines in game : 19830

Game type : Closed Turns per day : 1200
Planetary Trade %: 100% Steal from BUY port : Yes
Initial fighters : 99 Clear Busts Every : 1 Days
Initial credits : 99,999 Last Bust Clear : Today
Initial holds : 75 Multiple Photon fire: No
Sectors in game : 20000 Display StarDock : Yes
Ship delay factor: None
Start with planet: No Classic Ferrengi : No
Production Rate : 25% / Day Max Regen per Visit : 100%
Rob/steal delay : No Invincible Ferrengal: Yes
Tournament Mode : Off
[Pause]

==-- Trade Wars 2002 --==

T - Play Trade Wars 2002
I - Introduction & Help
S - View Game Settings
H - High scores
X - Exit

Enter your choice: T

Show today's log? (Y/N) [N] No


Initializing...

Hello Cruncher, welcome to:

Trade Wars 2002 ver 3.14 MBBS Gold

(C) Copyright 1986 John Pritchett. All rights reserved.
Brought to you by EIS
Written by Gary Martin, Mary Ann Martin and John Pritchett

Brought to you courtesy of V'Ger, ice9sysop@gmail.com


TradeWars Game Server Copyright (C) EIS
TWGS v2.00 www.eisonline.com

Server registered to ice9-tw.com
Supports up to 25 games and 100 nodes

<C> Classic <E> Evolution
<I> Ice Pirates <M> Moo2
<S> Solo Wars <W> War Games

<#> Players Online
<!> View game descriptions

<Q> Quit

Selection (? for menu): I


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[Pause]

==-- Trade Wars 2002 --==

T - Play Trade Wars 2002
I - Introduction & Help
S - View Game Settings
H - High scores
X - Exit

Enter your choice: T

Show today's log? (Y/N) [N] Yes
Include time/date stamp? (Y/N) [N] No

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Trade Wars 2002 ver 3.14 MBBS Gold -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Daily Journal S.D. 11/26/22 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

*** Cut to save space ***

Cruncher posted this universal announcement:
[Pause]
mong others. His edits and his rules may be noob friendly yet there are
Cruncher self-destructed!
[Pause]


Initializing...

Hello Cruncher, welcome to:

Trade Wars 2002 ver 3.14 MBBS Gold

(C) Copyright 1986 John Pritchett. All rights reserved.
Brought to you by EIS
Written by Gary Martin, Mary Ann Martin and John Pritchett

Brought to you courtesy of V'Ger, ice9sysop@gmail.com


Explore the history of TradeWars, join the Community Registry, and much more.
Visit the TradeWars Museum at http://wiki.classictw.com

[Pause]

A password is required to enter this game.

Password? *************

Who's Playing

Civilian drkwlf [8]
Pirate Wolf [8]

The Pirates are on the move!
The Ferrengi are on the move!
The Federation are on the move!

[Pause]

You destroyed your own ship!
You must wait for 1 day(s) to get back in.
[Pause]

It looks like you pasted the entire post into your helper screen. That happens. It's also very easy to be sending a message via fed/sub space and have scripts like saveme, citkill, ptorp, etc. send an update message while you are typing that message and part the message ends up as game commands or giving away vital information over fed com. I usually kill all scripts before sending messages over fed com. Of course that can still be a problem if you happen to get botted during a conversation over fed.

Why is this is in the beta section? You messed up and pasted something where it shouldn't be, it basically sent a large macro and the end result:

-- 11/26/22 -- 10:07:56 AM --
Cruncher posted this universal announcement:
mong others. His edits and his rules may be noob friendly yet there are
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Cruncher self-destructed!

You just can't buy entertainment like that

Cruncher, is this related to the Beta TWGS?

I posted here because I wasn't sure if it was a beta screw-up or a script screw-up.

Read my tag.... LOL Point made!

Ok u had a script error....It happens.

Fix your script...use a self protection trigger or both

As far as Fedcomm smacking..I use the Swath comm window which sends the smack in a burst

Since it was stated it was a script error, I shall move this from the Beta to Open Discussion.

Sorry Thrawn, I didn't know what it was. First time I've ever seen anything like that before.

No worries. I'm just trying to keep the TWGS Beta relatively clean of unrelated posts so John won't have so much to read and think it was a coding issue on his end.

Cruncher - Keep playing you will see it again

I was curious if you were notifying Microsoft and your Computer Manufacturer as well, since it could have been a potential problem with the OS or Computer hardware and affect millions of people causing serious loss of data or personal damage? Just Say'n

Not if I go back to playing manually

Oh, excuse me.. with my own Zoc macros.

Alt Q wont do a thing either in game or thru basic bot....You had other things going on.

Swath or Zoc triggers or something else. Combined with flapping on fed and bad macro buffering u ended up with a cby.

1)Scripts can have safeties built in...Macros have to have buffered safties which are tough to find.

2)Use a cby prevention script of some sort.

3) use Swath comm window to flap you mouth on fed.


Accidental cby hasnt happened to me in many years outside of testing new scripts.


Mombot mac command has no cby protection either and needs to be rewritten by a mombot fan.

Just relax....You will be back in the game shortly with a lesson learned

That’s why I originally posted to the beta forum. I was doing absolutely nothing in the game, no scripts running, just Zoc/TWX to connect to the game. I was sitting at the command prompt after just lifting from a planet.

I hit what I thought was Alt tab to look at my citadel upgrade notes when that loop of events followed by a cby happened. I can only assume I hit Alt Q by mistake.



Yeah, I still have the post Thanksgiving sleepies, gotta love Turkey day left-overs!

My macros occasionally take me for a wild-ride! When I enter the wrong planet #, and I have blown up on someone’s cannons unintentionally. No big deal.

"#Ship Destroyed# is just words on the screen" - Kasey (2004)

One of the best things anyone said to me that was teaching me the game.

               / Promethius / Enigma / Wolfen /

"A man who has no skills can be taught, a man who has no honor has nothing."

The scripts are independant programs, NOT the game.

I have no problem being #SD# when it's a part of the game. What happened had nothing to do with playing the game. It was a programing glitch. I just wanted to know which program "glitched"