TW Awards Category Suggestion
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Harley Nuss
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Joined: Thu Feb 20, 2003 3:00 am Posts: 1529 Location: USA
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I notice you have a bunch of Hall of Fame Categories and I understand what you're trying to do with that. You want to recognize people who have made a significant contribution in a specific area who wouldn't otherwise be recognized. However, you mind want to consider having a generic "Hall of Fame" category, considering it is one of the few traditional categories out there. If we were to go by the current categories for Hall of Fame, John Pritchett, Gary Martin, and Rave would never have made it into the Hall of Fame, even though they deserved it. Also, by opening up the Hall of Fame category, it lessens the achievement of those who have made it in. Just a suggestion from an old trader.
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| Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:42 am |
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Harley Nuss
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Joined: Thu Feb 20, 2003 3:00 am Posts: 1529 Location: USA
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As a side note, this year should be the 10th annual awards, unless you're wiping last year's 9th annual awards from the record books.
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| Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:46 am |
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Silence
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Joined: Tue Mar 26, 2002 3:00 am Posts: 1416 Location: Canada
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****, look at kemp go. Honestly, I agree with the hall of fame suggestions he has made, yet I think it is too late to change then this year.
Yet another thought for next november(which is when I think these awards should be brought up and dealt with).
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| Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:24 am |
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fork
Chief Warrant Officer
Joined: Thu Jun 01, 2006 2:00 am Posts: 188 Location: USA
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I dont think its too late. Consolidate it into one category. List who is already in the HOF so they dont get nominated again and make a rule that this person must be retired if that is the tradition. Maybe post a little blurb about the person because many of the new players might not know who these people are.
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| Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:41 am |
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Steel Magnolia
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Joined: Wed May 02, 2001 2:00 am Posts: 256 Location: USA
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yup, too late to change
but I totally agree
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| Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:41 am |
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Silence
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Joined: Tue Mar 26, 2002 3:00 am Posts: 1416 Location: Canada
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No, nominations are up for the year, they cannot be changed now(please try and get them changed, you willl see for next year)
The only thing changeing things now will accomplosh is a whole new round of *****ing.
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| Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:01 am |
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Big D
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Joined: Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:04 pm Posts: 5025
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Steel Magnolia wrote: yup, too late to change but I totally agree
Send me a message over ICQ girly. You contact seemed to somehow disappear. 121004329
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| Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:09 am |
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Kavanagh
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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2001 3:00 am Posts: 1410 Location: Boo! inc. Ireland
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I agree with K3. The Hall of Fame category has been non political and it would be a pity to "dilute" it.
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| Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:15 pm |
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fork
Chief Warrant Officer
Joined: Thu Jun 01, 2006 2:00 am Posts: 188 Location: USA
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If you dilute that award for even one year then it cheapens it for everyone who has ever won it. Even the person that really deserves to get in this year wont get the prestige that they deserve because this will just be looked at as the year they let "anyone" in. Why not just merge all the HOF threads into one? I dont see any reason to deviate from tradition if it has worked for this many years.
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| Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:03 pm |
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Parrothead
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Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 2:00 am Posts: 1722 Location: USA
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All well and good Fork Harley et al.Your reasoning is sound and I agree with you.The catagories were posted for comment some time ago. This should have been brought up then. Complaining after the horse is out of the barn doesnt accomplish much tho. I believe the Nomination Posts are being run through an Ip checker and Vulcan will not touch them at this point.But you could try and send him an Icq or Pm directly if you feel strongly about the issue. I suspect his answer tho. Read Silence's post above.
Perhaps next year a commitee of traders who are committed to the awards will want to deal with it ahead of time instead of leaving it up to those who already do more than their share.
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| Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:52 pm |
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Zentock
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Joined: Mon Sep 22, 2003 2:00 am Posts: 486 Location: USA
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Excuse me, but i feel i must say something on this.
First thank you K3, that is a great idea and it will be implemented the next time we hold the awards, expect them for 2007 by the 1st week in December.
Now as for the diluting of the awards value.
In the real world, there exists the Halls of Fame for, Football, Baseball, Basketball, Nascar........ so, by comparison we have Trader,Scripter,Script,Sysop,Admin......
if the logic for the limiting of twars Hall of fame inductees
where to be applied in the real world then we would have to merge all the aforementioned halls of fame and only nominate 1 athlete to the hall of fame a yr?
that makes no sense as just in football alone there are quarterbacks, wide receivers, line backers, coaches,......., and even sports announcers who get nominated and inducted yearly. And i am sure that this does not lessen the value of the recognition of these inductees.
Sorry but i don't see the validity of so drastically limiting the
numbers of inductees in a text based game.
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| Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:40 pm |
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Steel Magnolia
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Joined: Wed May 02, 2001 2:00 am Posts: 256 Location: USA
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Here is the list of members of the Hall of Fame
Gary Martin
Stardock BBS
John Pritchett
EleqTrizi'T
Guardian
Rave
Jerry/Oldtimer (coast games)
Xide/TWX Proxy
Jhereg
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| Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:34 am |
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Steel Magnolia
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Joined: Wed May 02, 2001 2:00 am Posts: 256 Location: USA
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Parrothead wrote: All well and good Fork Harley et al.Your reasoning is sound and I agree with you.The catagories were posted for comment some time ago. This should have been brought up then. Complaining after the horse is out of the barn doesnt accomplish much tho. I believe the Nomination Posts are being run through an Ip checker and Vulcan will not touch them at this point.But you could try and send him an Icq or Pm directly if you feel strongly about the issue. I suspect his answer tho. Read Silence's post above. Perhaps next year a commitee of traders who are committed to the awards will want to deal with it ahead of time instead of leaving it up to those who already do more than their share.
Am I allowed to reply here or am I expected to do it in SMACK?
Edit: Nevermind, I'll do it at twgs.org
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| Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:35 am |
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Steel Magnolia
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Joined: Wed May 02, 2001 2:00 am Posts: 256 Location: USA
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Zentock wrote: Excuse me, but i feel i must say something on this. First thank you K3, that is a great idea and it will be implemented the next time we hold the awards, expect them for 2007 by the 1st week in December.
Now as for the diluting of the awards value. In the real world, there exists the Halls of Fame for, Football, Baseball, Basketball, Nascar........ so, by comparison we have Trader,Scripter,Script,Sysop,Admin...... if the logic for the limiting of twars Hall of fame inductees where to be applied in the real world then we would have to merge all the aforementioned halls of fame and only nominate 1 athlete to the hall of fame a yr? that makes no sense as just in football alone there are quarterbacks, wide receivers, line backers, coaches,......., and even sports announcers who get nominated and inducted yearly. And i am sure that this does not lessen the value of the recognition of these inductees.
Sorry but i don't see the validity of so drastically limiting the numbers of inductees in a text based game.
Are you trying to tell me that the Football Hall of Fame inducts a quarterback, a linebacker, a center, an announcer, a coach, a waterboy, a cheerleader each year? NO!
And I don't think anyone here suggested we should merge WOW, TradeWars, EVE.......into one Hall of Fame nominee.
That is what would equate to your NASCAR, BASEBALL, etc example.
maggie
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| Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:53 am |
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Silence
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Joined: Tue Mar 26, 2002 3:00 am Posts: 1416 Location: Canada
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You're right maggie, but why was this not brought up at the point when the negative categories were removed?
It's a little late now, in my honest opinion.
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| Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:11 am |
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