Okay this is for all those who play on my server, over the weekend the host that houses my online server was having network switching problems and the server went offline a couple of times, and was down the first time almost all day, and the second time just a short while, I know this caused problems in all games and especially the USO game, I probably will not hear the end of it for some time, I heard some corps lost a lot and all from the problem I had with the host company, for that I really do apologize for the inconvience and the problems it had, I also heard that the server went down at an awfully convient time, and allowed others the upper hand, this isn't a true statement. The server came up on its own, and when it comes online the TWGS will be online with it, it is set to autostart, and is set as a service on the server and runs soon as the server comes online. So if anyone has any major problems, address them to me, not people who have no control of what happens, I also have no control on what happened this weekend, I do not control the host company's network switches and any hardware breakdowns they have that cause my server to disconnect from the network, due to their switches blowing out. I try to run a fair server and not be biased on anything or issue, and am fair to all. I was there when the server went down and was on the phone to the host company on the spot trying to get the server back online, and let the players know what was up and also sent mass ICQ's to all in games, some may have not received the mass ICQ's, I don't know. But I tried to let all know the server is down, but being the TWGS is set as a service, it comes up when the server does, I may have to take it down as a service and keep it running on my login again, so if the server goes down again, it won't automatically come up and I have to restart it and then can let all know a time to have the server online so all can come and be ready for the server to come online.

Again I am sincerely sorry for the problems that were caused from the host blowing out a network switch.

Vulcan

Vulcan I somehow doubt that this whole response was necessary. We all know you run a good server.

WEll I felt it necessary, for the players to know I have tried all I could to get the server up in a timely manner and all for all playing, but am going to take the TWGS off as a service and make it boot when I have to relog on and turn it on when the server comes up from a crash or a network switch problem, so as to not lead to another issue for all games.

Well thanxs Vulcan, but Darn that was way to much info the icq saying your isp and probelms was good for me... Thanxs for getting it back up as fast as u did...

Heh, Vulcan, I always thought that you literally had your own network you operated off of, I guess I misunderstood.

Posted that to let all know what all I went thru to get it up again, I was on the phone for hours with the host trying to get it straigheened out.

And thanks for being patient with the issues.

quote:Originally posted by RexxCrow

Heh, Vulcan, I always thought that you literally had your own network you operated off of, I guess I misunderstood.


I have my server on an online hosting company, they charge me to host my server, and I benifit from a T1 continuous connection, unless their network switches blow out. Then I am at their mercy like my home puter is to comcast.

Laff

quote:Originally posted by Vulcan

WEll I felt it necessary, for the players to know I have tried all I could to get the server up in a timely manner and all for all playing, but am going to take the TWGS off as a service and make it boot when I have to relog on and turn it on when the server comes up from a crash or a network switch problem, so as to not lead to another issue for all games.


I don't know if this helps Vulcan, but I took mine off as a service and I have my TWGS start on the profile (Web2) in WinXP. I have TweakUI and set the Network tab to autologin on that profile (Web2). When my XP machine reboots, it logs into that profile automatically. This way "if" you are away, then at least it will still login and start. And it works with more than one profile present.

quote:Originally posted by Thrawn702

quote:Originally posted by Vulcan

WEll I felt it necessary, for the players to know I have tried all I could to get the server up in a timely manner and all for all playing, but am going to take the TWGS off as a service and make it boot when I have to relog on and turn it on when the server comes up from a crash or a network switch problem, so as to not lead to another issue for all games.


I don't know if this helps Vulcan, but I took mine off as a service and I have my TWGS start on the profile (Web2) in WinXP. I have TweakUI and set the Network tab to autologin on that profile (Web2). When my XP machine reboots, it logs into that profile automatically. This way "if" you are away, then at least it will still login and start. And it works with more than one profile present.


Thanks Thrawn, I may have to try that, i will hit you on ICQ sometime soon and go into it with more detail with you and try it, my online server uses windows server 2003, and I have to remote connect to it, so having it to do with my login on the server is no problem, It took like an act of god to get the TWGS working as a service on the windows server 2003 too, I had to deactivate several services to get it to work right too, and that was a major pain. But am happy to just have it to be set to my login on the server, cause I can just disconnect and I am still logged in and it runs fine. So I may go back to that, it seems the server ran better that way too.

Hit me up on that Vulcan I would love to get Alien Base set up to run as a service on win 2003

River Rat

quote:Originally posted by Vulcan

quote:Originally posted by Thrawn702

quote:Originally posted by Vulcan

WEll I felt it necessary, for the players to know I have tried all I could to get the server up in a timely manner and all for all playing, but am going to take the TWGS off as a service and make it boot when I have to relog on and turn it on when the server comes up from a crash or a network switch problem, so as to not lead to another issue for all games.


I don't know if this helps Vulcan, but I took mine off as a service and I have my TWGS start on the profile (Web2) in WinXP. I have TweakUI and set the Network tab to autologin on that profile (Web2). When my XP machine reboots, it logs into that profile automatically. This way "if" you are away, then at least it will still login and start. And it works with more than one profile present.


Thanks Thrawn, I may have to try that, i will hit you on ICQ sometime soon and go into it with more detail with you and try it, my online server uses windows server 2003, and I have to remote connect to it, so having it to do with my login on the server is no problem, It took like an act of god to get the TWGS working as a service on the windows server 2003 too, I had to deactivate several services to get it to work right too, and that was a major pain. But am happy to just have it to be set to my login on the server, cause I can just disconnect and I am still logged in and it runs fine. So I may go back to that, it seems the server ran better that way too.


Well I tried to run TWGS as a service for both XP and 2000 Advanced Server and it gave me errors. The service would start fine, but to close the service produced errors and I'd have to click the "send/don't send" box before it would terminate.

This method I use now was the best for us. I have tested the autologin from TweakUI on 2000 Advanced Server and XP and it works fine. Then you just need to have a shortcut in your startup folder for TWGS. On my XP machine with multiple profiles, the Web2 profile will always be the first to run or login. So with 2003 it should work the same as our 2000 Advanced Server. A login is a login. But I'm more than happy to walk you through it.

If you configure an Autologin, and configure TWGS to start with that profile, then you have the same issue as now Vulcan. I think what you are trying to achieve is a delay for notification, prior to the TWGS coming back online. So if the server drops for an extended period, don't bring TWGS back online right away, but rather notify users of a start time several hours in advance. So don't change it from running as a Service, just change the Service startup to Manual.

One idea on how to achieve notification and delayed start would be to have a scheduled batch file that is set to start every hour. If it starts, and the server has been down, send out a mass icq stating that the TWGS will be restarted in one hour, then have it wait for an hour and start the TWGS Server Service.

No idea how to achieve an automated mass ICQ, but I'm sure there are apps for that very purpose.

+EP+

Ya. and the ck's in the mail.

quote:Originally posted by ElderProphet

If you configure an Autologin, and configure TWGS to start with that profile, then you have the same issue as now Vulcan. I think what you are trying to achieve is a delay for notification, prior to the TWGS coming back online. So if the server drops for an extended period, don't bring TWGS back online right away, but rather notify users of a start time several hours in advance. So don't change it from running as a Service, just change the Service startup to Manual.

One idea on how to achieve notification and delayed start would be to have a scheduled batch file that is set to start every hour. If it starts, and the server has been down, send out a mass icq stating that the TWGS will be restarted in one hour, then have it wait for an hour and start the TWGS Server Service.

No idea how to achieve an automated mass ICQ, but I'm sure there are apps for that very purpose.

+EP+


Apologies EP. I must have misunderstood what he was trying to state. My solution works great for when the machine is rebooted or power kicks out. It will do nothing when a network error comes up. I had thought that was what he was saying the problem was.

Of course the other thing to look at is I am a host. I do not have anyone to deal with save an ISP and an IP. Other than that I own our network entirely here. If the ISP is having issues and our net is disconnected, my TWGS stays online until the net reconnects. I was more or less attempting to share a solution I use as a Network Admin here and it has been reliable for us.

Okay I will get with you RR and try to help set it up with you, but it is a 50/50 chance you can't see the GUI when doing it, That is my only issue with it as a Service on server 2003, most of the time it will not show up the GUI, and that is what makes it so hard to keep the TWGS shut down, when the server has to reboot from an error that forces it offline, like the switch issue on the hosts network, the switch went out and they had to shut down servers to fix it without corrupting the systems from messing with things while the servers were still on. And lo and behold the TWGS autostarted and my GUI was out to lunch, and I couldn't halt its coming up. I tried to use command line to shut the service down, but too late people already logged in and went straight to playing. I now have it set on regular and have to keep a logged in account now for it to work right again, so I can have the GUI at my disposal and prevent what happened this weekend from happening again.

Thrawn I will still get with you on the setup you suggested, and try it. But being my server is online, I can just close the remote window and it will keep me logged on the server, I also am a host, I just happen to pay a company to house my server, so as to have the benifit of a T1 connection without the extreme cost of having one at the house.400 dollars a month for a T1 and 2500 for the installation of it is a bit much for the home. So I opted to have my server put on a service that hosts servers. They also host Websites and are okay with me hosting them as well. And they encouraged it too. Go figure.