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Author:  Daniel_E_Higginbotham [ Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:36 am ]
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I know you've all heard the reports of the bombings in Brittian, and the copy cat bombings, then the ones down in Egypt, the daily ones in Iraq, and Afghanistan (cant spell that word for sh!t) and my question is, how can you destroy such hate? Such ingorance? Such a plague??

The war on innocent civlians is on! How the hell can we defend ourselves?
Author:  Marcellus Wallace [ Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:55 am ]
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we can start by stop killing innocent civilians in iraq, and afghanistan.. that might start a trend.
Author:  Singularity [ Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:26 am ]
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Yea, probably would help some. But they're still going to kill. Generations of hatred,
taught from birth, re-inforced by religion and politicians that scapegoat a nation's
problems to the innocent... can't be undone in an evening. Cannot be solved by any
single action. When you promote murder and punish charity with cruelty, don't be
surprised when you breed a group of assassins. And while its only a minority of the
area, 1 bad apple can spoil the whole dang bunch.

These murderers came to us, we did not seek them out. They torture and kill as many
people as they can. They kill civilians without concern and teach their recruits that
we are too "weak" to do the same. We practice a great deal of restraint and are
rewarded by an inbred hatred that has existed longer than we have. This problem is
not going to go away until the people of these respective nations get fed up with
others controlling their fate and take back their country. From us, and from supporters
of terrorism. And that, sadly, won't happen until they are tired of the bloodshed and
hunger more for peace than revenge.
Author:  RexxCrow [ Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:13 am ]
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First off or government really needs to stop selling our decommed weapons to these lamea$$ thirdworld countries. Which they do just so that they have a reason to keep advancing our militaries technologies, i.e. we now have F-22's so we will decommission our F-14's and F-16's, oh and since we do not need them anymore because they are "outdated" we will just sell them to Country-X for the "assumed" purpose of creating an allegiance with them. Spending 70-plus billion dollars every presidency on consolidating aircraft bids, what a complete crock of crap. We are already the recognized worldwide military superpower, nobody can touch the U.S.; that money could be used else were to make this world better, to make this nation better.
Author:  Marcellus Wallace [ Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:15 am ]
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i tend to disagree with the "us cannot be touched" statement rexx.. if we got into a war with, lets say china, we would be in some serious trouble
Author:  Singularity [ Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:42 am ]
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If we got into a war with China... no. We wouldn't be. Look at what a small group
of insurgents is doing in Iraq. Size really doesn't matter in military, it's the
way you use what you have. For the curious tho we actually HAVE been at war with
China before, back in Korea. A direct war, mainland against mainland, would not be
pretty. Nuclear weapons would start flying and then no one would care who had the
larger army of skeletons.

Fortunately, atleast at present, the modern leaders of both nations are smart
enough to know that a war like that is bad for business. China does not concern
me much, they're opening up and becoming more democratic. Prosperous nations
don't go to war with each other... there's too much money at stake. Trade is
cheaper than war.

It's the poor nations with a lot of violent intentions that worry me. Today the
middle east, 20 years from now... Africa. And the probability of encountering
terrorism via WMD increases as the years go by. We have no long term strategy
for dealing with this problem right now. Instead it appears that they are used
more as a weapon of politics, for people to get their respective leaders elected.

One thing tho about "money being used elsewhere." Money spent at the gov't level
is not a flat cost model, it's spent on industry that is later taxed. So you
can spend money even if you don't have it, the only downside is the effect of
deficit spending on currency valuation and market faith. It may sound good to take
30 billion from arms and spend it elsewhere, but you'd have to fire a lot of people
to make those cuts. So what are you going to do, take that money from people that
(probably) work a little for it or give it to people that don't work at all (the
dole)?
Author:  Stockton [ Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:46 pm ]
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two words

racial profile
Author:  smokey [ Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:01 pm ]
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rex crow is right whens the last time u been over to iraq Marcellus Wallace? well i just got back from a 9month deployment over there i 2nd class construction machanic for the navy constrution battalion 133 i was in iraq,falosha,and afghanistan. teaching there military forces how to work on and operate old military equipment that we sold to them! by the way Marcellus Wallace if u havent heard yet we r the strongest country in the world by far! its a fact we have helped almost every country financial! who can to our rescue during 911 or what country sends $$ to us very summer when our coast lines ge destroyed by hurricans? thats what i thought
Author:  smokey [ Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:22 pm ]
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by the way Wallacet we dont kill inccent civilians either
matter of fact engagment of war state dont draw weopon till u have been fire on. i al ways love them someone watches 1 hour on CNN and can tell u everything about this counrty ! lolol hay ill take cheese on that hamburger Marcellus. rofl
Author:  Bethel Hues [ Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:51 pm ]
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No one can touch U.S.? The way they will "touch" us is in numbers.

9/11

I foresee more terrorist acts hitting US soil. Maybe not in the same way (planes), but one day someone will set off a nuke in the US. They already stopped one from going off a few years ago.
As my father used to say, "where there is a will, there is way". And with the way our borders are basicly open both north and south they will not have to much problems getting stuff in. Hell there are Americans out there that would help them for a price.

As far as innocents getting killed, it happens in all wars. Shoot first and ask questions later.
We all know the stuff Sodom did to innocents, do we not? So before you get all rightous about killing innocents, read the old testament in the Bible, most are guilty by association.
We all wish wars were not happening, that everybody could just get along, but it ain't gonna happen in the near future.
Deal with it.
With a son in the Marines who is going to be deployed to Iraq or Afganistan in the near future, I fear for his safty, I fear for all Americans in war situations. What must be done quite frankly MUST be done. http://www.military.com has hundreds of stories and pictures and movies of stuff going on with our troops in foriegn countries.
Author:  smokey [ Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:22 pm ]
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ian not saying we can be touch iam saying we r the most powerfulest country in the world.
Author:  smokey [ Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:27 pm ]
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sorry bethel not to be an butt but only thing u see is on CNN , news report!
Author:  smokey [ Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:30 pm ]
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sorry to be so touch about the subject, but i have had to take fire from malisha in iraq and have had to sleep with flak jacket on 9mm on my hip snuggled with m16 waking up to gunfire and explotion still have alot of good friends over there too! not to ramble just want to explain
Author:  Marcellus Wallace [ Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:47 pm ]
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roffles, smokey.. you are just like every other gung ho military person i know, not even worth arguing with. but i will tell you what i will do for you, learn yourself some spelling skills, come back.. maybe we can have a chat.
Author:  smokey [ Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:16 pm ]
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u must be one of those guys who buys there dedication and show it by sticking it to there bumper of there car. dont for get freedom doesnt come free
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