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| Author: | Malaga [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:17 pm ] |
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I'm note sure if I am reading this properly, but one of my players reported this to me today: He's in a ship with 400k figs, and 16k shields... OFF/DEF odds are Off - 3.0:1 Def 4.0:1 He invades a planet which throws up no Ion blasts (I assumed it was mothed) and sends off 414205 fighters worth of damage in Military reaction fighters... and he dies.. should he have 1795 fighters left? ========================= 03-11-2005 07:05 - Cavalier Game D My Ship Sector Planet Name Ore Org Equ Ore Org Equ Fighters Citadel Shields Population -=Productions=- -=-=-=-=-On Hands-=-=-=-=- Credits ============================================================================== No Planets claimed Computer command [TL=00:00:00]:[5241] (?=Help)? Z <Active Ship Scan> --< Available Ship Scan >-- Ship Sect Name Fighters Shields Hops Type ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 xxx Dozer Corp 200 0 1 Colonial Transport 3 xxx Death From Abov Corp 75T 10T 1 Cheetah 12 xxx Darn Corp 400T 16T 0 Death Cruiser 17 xxx+Death Cruiser Corp 400T 16T 0 Death Cruiser 26 xxx MothBall Corp 0 0 1 Scout Marauder Computer command [TL=00:00:00]:[5241] (?=Help)? Q My Pod ---------------------------------------------------------------------- < xxx> Earth 1 Level 4 90% 440T Owned by: Canon the HewPac Destroyer Land on which planet <Q to abort> ? 284 Landing sequence engaged... Scanning for Defensive forces on planet surface. ****** Active Combat Control system detected: The Quasar Cannon on Earth 1 locks on you. Fighter Attack! Combat computer reports damages of 414205 battle points! Life Support knocked out! Energy generation shut down! You rush to an escape pod and abandon ship... Your Death Cruiser has been destroyed! Your trusty Escape Pod is functioning normally. For getting blown up you LOSE 1902 experience point(s). Sector 6908 will now be avoided in future navigation calculations. I should have had 1795 ftrs left? Ice |
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| Author: | Draconis [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:13 pm ] |
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quote:Originally posted by Malaga I'm note sure if I am reading this properly, but one of my players reported this to me today: He's in a ship with 400k figs, and 16k shields... OFF/DEF odds are Off - 3.0:1 Def 4.0:1 He invades a planet which throws up no Ion blasts (I assumed it was mothed) and sends off 414205 fighters worth of damage in Military reaction fighters... and he dies.. should he have 1795 fighters left? Well, my first guess is that the defensive odds are incorrect. Also, just because the cz shows 16k shields does not mean it is a full 16k. I would recommend checking those defensive odds. Since planet figs only have 2.0 odds, if a ship had 4.0 odds, that would mean it would only do 200k damage, not 400k. Jhereg |
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| Author: | Harley Nuss [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:58 pm ] |
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I would guess that you didn't have as many figs/shields as you thought you did when you actually landed. A continious cap from when you last checked your ship out to when you actually landed would be most helpful. I seriously doubt it's a bug, most likely you just messed something up 
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| Author: | Psion [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:38 pm ] |
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And since the planet was only L4, you might want to try a photon landing to avoid those pesky reaction fighters if you're worried about being podded. 
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| Author: | Malaga [ Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:04 am ] |
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Wasn't actually me who did the cap, but a player on my board (I'm the game-op) I'll ask him to do a total cap from start to finish and see if there's anything he missed... Here's a question though... I have mothed some planets down to under 200 shields, and when I came back to do a photon - it never works... I try using a swath macro but it never works.. I always end up against the planet fighters - granted, the photon duration is like 5 seconds, but the macro should let me on in time.... Any ideas? Malaga. |
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| Author: | Desert Fox [ Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:20 am ] |
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The photon just keeps you from getting blasted by the cannon you still have to kill planet figs. |
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| Author: | Psion [ Sun Mar 13, 2005 5:32 am ] |
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Nod, DF is right. Photons will keep a planet with under 200 shields from firing its Q and from launching reaction figs. It doesn't allow you to completely bypass the fighters, it just stop the military reaction (offensive) fighters from attacking. You still have to whittle away the fighters normally to capture the planet. |
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| Author: | Slim Shady [ Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:06 pm ] |
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yes, photons only eliminate offensive threats, you still have to get by the passive defence of the fighters. you are the op... are you *positive* that it has 4.0 defensive odds? |
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| Author: | Slim Shady [ Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:14 pm ] |
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Ship Category #28 Ship Class : Death Cruiser Basic Hold Cost:5,000,000 Initial Holds: 255 Maximum Shields:16,000 Main Drive Cost:5,000,000 Max Fighters:400,000 Offensive Odds: 2.5:1 Computer Cost:0,000,000 Turns Per Warp: 1 Defensive Odds: 1.0:1 Ship Hull Cost:0,400,500 Mine Max: 250 Beacon Max: 10 Ship Base Cost:0,400,500 Genesis Max: 80 Long Range Scan: Yes Max Figs Per Attack: 60000 TransWarp Drive: Yes Planet Scanner: Yes Maximum Holds: 255 Transport Range: 45 Photon Missiles: Yes that is the ship he mothed in. that is why he died. offensive planet figs 2:1 defensive planet figs 3:1 heh, a lvl4 and he doesnt photon. tell that guy to go read http://www.tw-cabal.com |
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