Well, unfortunately everyone, we have to endure the ignorance and pretty much unsportsmanship like conduct from probably just adults acting like children. Without even reading the probably ignorant crap coming from the previous two topic posters, i can see that they say something about cheating, and if anyone was cheating, this wouldn't have happened. Anyhow, people usually like to throw that into the ring when they are BANNED from a server for Ruining the game play for more serious and fun seeking players.

I don't know where they get off thinking that we will endure the rants of 4 punks over the 20 + other players usually online that enjoy the games at UltimateTW.com.

So, without even reading their posts this is all we will say about that ignorance.

Next, we have a great server, with several brand new games banged, including one for ANYTHING GOES. The server is fast, and is sitting on a network backbone. We love to have you come and enjoy our games, just please respect the fact that not all players may play the same way you do, and keep your tactics for games appropriate to those measures.

Thank you all and Merry Christmas, Happy New Year from all of us at

UltimateTW.com port 23

Solon Amadeus
Co-Sysop

Anyone that disagrees or agrees with our policy, please feel free to let me know. I'd like to know how other real, unbiased players feel.

If you post that a game is for newbs then you will not have corps come in and dominate a game. You cannot possibly make a rule that says you "have to play in a way that is fun for everyone!" Not all people like the laid back building style of yesteryear. Some people have actually progressed well beyond the way TW used to be and to ban them because they killed the peaceful traders out there is silly. A better way to handle it would have been to explain that THAT game was a social game and not a killer game and ask them nicely to not play in it anymore. I would bet that would have caused less problems that a banning. Just my two cents.

Actually, I totally, agree. And thats why I had. I was there when they all starting logging in, and there was this large debate over how we play, and such, and I agree, there needs to be the rules posted somewhere. The site is on its way. This server is less than 2 weeks old, and most of us are fairly busy in life. We had explained it. And, when I logged on today, I explained it again, and they all decided to argue with me, and be accusatory, and basically cause problems. It was ignorant, and disrespectful, thats why that group was banned. Instead of working out a solution, like there is now, there is a full, no holds barred game available for players like this now. Instead of allowing me to do that, they killed everyone and then decided to be dicks about it. I agree with you, it has progressed, and that has to be respected and addressed, and now it has been. Thanks Bone Collector, hope to possibly play against you someday!

Solon Amadeus
Co-Sysop
http://www.ultimatetw.com

OK let me get this straight you said you banged a game that has Anything Goes....shouldn't you put this next to it Anything Goes(Except killing the sysop)

umm, I don't know where you got anything goes from, and the sysop is fair game. Well, I'm starting to learn that none of you understand the spirit of gaming. This isn't war, this is a GAME. We don't want those kinds of poor sports around anyhow. If you want war, go to Baghdad, where each of you would likely be crying for your comfy bed and computer before you even got off the C130.

We don't want sysops like you in our community, we've seen to many-

Go cry elsewhere.

cheater

Graz

Excuse me for chiming in here, but the name of the game is Tradewars, not Tradepeace. Ever since it was invented, people were blowing each other up and invading planets.

In The Republic, LoTR, Corp 2, The Outfit, took over our planets, but do you hear me whining about it in the forums? All part of the game, I applaud their efforts for finding them so quickly. I am lucky they didn't pod me in the process. If we only had more members and got into the game earlier, we would have found a better spot before the grids went up.

TWLeague rules say for SYSOPS not to play in their games. That way they cannot be accused of cheating. That way they won't ruin their reps. Let this be a lesson to other SYSOPS.

Obviously no one is reading the posts. THIS WAS NOT A LEAGUE GAME. That game CLEARLY starts on the 30th, and I will not be playing in it. A League game is a GAME, not a server. As you said, the game is called Tradewars, but what came first, its a GAME, not a WAR, this is a GAME, not a WAR, say it with me. Again, if you think your tough, and you want war, go to Baghdad, where the real men are fighting. Well, all the players that we enjoy having are not from this forum, so you all have a great one, we'll keep our server for those that realize this is a game, and that others play too.

Been there, got back a few months ago.

Care to tango some more?

Graz

I was Banned for playing well. I will take that as a compliment.
But you most certainly did not have to ban me, because I play tradewars. I do not know what it is you play on your server, but it is definitely not the tradewars game I have been playing for the last 10 years.

I am so sorry that you were exposed to people that know how to play the game. I know how upsetting that can be. God forbid you or any of the other whiners from your server learn anything or put up fight against the evil good players. The only way you know how to fight is to whine and ban players that kill the sysop. You should have just used t-edit instead embarrassing yourself publicly like you have. It cracks me up that as soon as you realized no one was going to agree with you for banning us because we know how to play, we suddenly became "disrespectful punks". I was there and not once were we out of line. I guess people trying to understand why the hell you can't play war in a war game is your definition of being disrespectful.

The thing is, all the strategy we use, all the scripts we use, are available to any player willing to expand their knowledge of the game. We shouldn't be punished for taking the time to practice and learn. Games have winners and losers. Imagine punishing a football player for getting bigger and better than other players. What is your problem...?? Are you some Power tripping freak or what?? Don't you kind of wonder why no one else has agreed with you or no other server has your same policy? Helloooo... wake up and smell the coffee dude.. you are a freak.

It is possible to play war games and have fun, but the players on your server will never know that. Making it too easy leaves no challenge and even your newbies will get bored and leave your server eventually. Revenge is the driving force motivating people to get better at the game. You are the only one ruining the games on your server.

And we did not kill everyone and take everything. We killed you and took your stuff and one other person died. So 2 out of your alleged 20 players is a far cry from the truth. Now go home Mr. Sysop, and keep defending your right to play on your own server, play mud and whatever else you think you play (cough)and stay out of tradewars and the forums. Those places are tw's players and real sysops, not freaks like you.

Thanks for giving me something to laugh at today... laff laff

Very nice Kasey,

That being said, I hope you can hold the pace for abit.. Very well put, and indeed one of the best flames I've seen since, me..

ICQ me- I'm off to bed.

Good Day Kasey,

Graz

Next, we have a great server, with several brand new games banged, including one for ANYTHING GOES. The server is fast, and is sitting on a network backbone.


That was your quote to open this topic....but wait the sysop is fair game if you want to get banned or tedited....Go cry somewhere else tradeWARS....Its in the f***ing TITLE....Moron

quote:Originally posted by solonamadeus

Actually, I totally, agree. And thats why I had. I was there when they all starting logging in, and there was this large debate over how we play, and such, and I agree, there needs to be the rules posted somewhere. The site is on its way. This server is less than 2 weeks old, and most of us are fairly busy in life. We had explained it. And, when I logged on today, I explained it again, and they all decided to argue with me, and be accusatory, and basically cause problems. It was ignorant, and disrespectful, thats why that group was banned. Instead of working out a solution, like there is now, there is a full, no holds barred game available for players like this now. Instead of allowing me to do that, they killed everyone and then decided to be dicks about it.


I know I already posted in another thread, but this is not the truth. We were told very clearly the rules, they were:
1.) Do not attack new players
2.) Don't blockade SD
3.) Do not go after people who are weaker than you.
4.) Do not lay figs in open space (which was later changed mid game)
5.) It is okay to invade planets.

Now, I would consider that 2 weeks of play would put people in a pretty good position. We logged in, made money, and invaded. Capped ships from people. The first response we get is not "hey can you not do that." It is "you cheated." No this was a different co-sysop (how many sysops does a new server need anyway?), but none the less. People agrued with the sysop, sure. They were confused, we didn't break the above, unposted, only word of mouth rules.

And to make it only that much more insulting, the post about "unsportsmanlike." What the hell sport do you play? Chess is even aggressive for crying out loud. We came into a game with people having a 2 WEEK head start, and invaded? What exactly is sportmanlike? Should we send out an ICQ to everyone and let them know we will be invading at a specific time? Perhaps make sure it fits their schedule? As multiple people have posted in the threads, this game is a combat game. It is NOT A ROLEPLAYING GAME. If you are looking for one, play MUDS or various other online roleplaying games. This is a combat game. Unsportsmanlike would have been perhaps surrounding Dock with 50k offensive figs, or blowing dock, or perhaps blowing Class0 ports. Shipbuyouts, etc. I am wondering if maybe you don't even know what some of these tactics are. This is the second time in a year I have been accused of cheating or using bugs, because we made money in an unlim game. The last time on Coastgames, Jerry pointed out that unlim turns = unlim resources to the player. But in this case it is the sysop who doesn't understand that.

I won't bash the server, but I will recommend that people still clear of it with its current gameops. There are plenty of good servers out there.

Jhereg

Hmmm, well, this will be my last post here. You all have made me think very poorly of where this game is going, and I think that you all are a mark against those who try to enjoy playing the game. Maybe I am in the minority now days of how I like to play, but who are you to tell me how I should like to play, on our own server. You think you are important to the game, but you are destroying it, in not only my opinion by I am shared by those of the co-sysops, and those that play on our board.

I would really like to address the complete lie of any cheating or tediting. That is completely ignorant and those players know it. What the hell was edited? I was easier to take down than the other 4-5 players you destroyed in that first night of play. Editing the game in anyway to help any player just doesn't happen. An honest person doesn't do that, and I hardly care whether you think I am honest. We will definately enjoy our games without your type of play, and it is a serious disappointment that I have even had to lower myself to this kind of childish bantor. There is no cheating, there is only fun play, from old lovers of the game. I hope it will not be so disappointing to see how this game evolves.

I am choosing not to reply to any of the ignorance and lies posted here anymore, it is just that, lies and ignorance. Lies trying to justify their attitude towards how our server chooses to run. The rules were clear, they didn't follow them, and they choose to close the game down. Its pretty clear that when no one in the game has made that kind of an advance in 2 weeks that you can do in a night, something is wrong and unbalanced. The game is exactly a role playing game, and the game is not meant to be played the way you play it, otherwise, why are there level 5 and 6 planets. The way you play you can't get anywhere near it. Your game is also not friendly. Not friendly is unfriendly, and we don't like unfriendly people around.

So, for those of you that enjoy a real game of Tradewars (hey, whats that first word, its not script wars), you never traded more than 20 minutes between the 4 of you, come check out http://www.ultimatetw.com on port 23. Anyhow, have fun, and try not to ruin the game for so many others.

Solon Amadeus
http://www.ultimatetw.com