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Author:  Survey_Says [ Thu Apr 18, 2002 5:33 pm ]
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Can someone tell me what the frack happened today with that fracking cheating sysop.

Author:  Survey_Says [ Thu Apr 18, 2002 5:44 pm ]
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Trade Wars 2002 Trader Rankings : 04/18/14 06:13:27 AM

# Rank Alignment Corp Trader Name Ship Type
--- --------------------- -- ------------------------------ ------------------
1 65,871 5,098 4 Corporate Killer Nebula StarShip
2 33,024 3,277 ** q Nova StarShip
3 6,243 1,559,124 4 Survey_Says Defiant FlagShip
4 5,118 1,216 5 Phaedrus *** Escape Pod ***
5 2,439 -82,449 1 5 of Subjunction 9 # Ship Destroyed #
6 1,781 44 6 Ghost *** Escape Pod ***
7 1,254 1,009 3 Dr. iLLuSion Y.W.D. Defiant FlagShip
8 780 70 ** Medeski Merchant Cruiser
9 588 253 1 Xcathdra # Ship Destroyed #
10 313 0 2 Ethreal Warrior Defiant FlagShip
11 269 0 ** Derkon Merchant Cruiser
12 59 0 1 Exclave # Ship Destroyed #
13 38 6 ** Tyr # Ship Destroyed #
14 38 0 ** mega playboy # Ship Destroyed #
15 4 0 ** .-Trooper-. Merchant Cruiser
16 0 0 ** Blackjack Merchant Cruiser
17 0 -10 5 Artaxs # Ship Destroyed #
18 0 0 ** Dangerousdave *** Escape Pod ***


Trade Wars 2002 Trader Rankings : 04/18/14 05:02:16 PM

# Rank Alignment Corp Trader Name Ship Type
--- --------------------- -- ------------------------------ ------------------
1 55,205 2,812 ** q Nova StarShip
2 30,752 2,250,000 8 Corporate Killer # Ship Destroyed #
3 20,296 -4,500,000 ** 5 of Subjunction 9 Cube
4 9,527 1,434 5 Phaedrus Intrepid GunStar
5 2,809 779,562 4 Survey_Says # Ship Destroyed #
6 2,610 -1,014 7 Destroyer Merchant Cruiser
7 1,792 44 6 Ghost Scout Marauder
8 1,256 1,233 3 Dr. iLLuSion Y.W.D. Defiant FlagShip
9 914 1 ** Derkon *** Escape Pod ***
10 781 75 ** Medeski Merchant Cruiser
11 588 253 1 Xcathdra # Ship Destroyed #
12 418 1 2 Ethreal Warrior Defiant FlagShip
13 236 -1 ** Mally Merchant Cruiser
14 213 0 ** mega playboy # Ship Destroyed #
15 141 0 ** Vuux # Ship Destroyed #
16 59 0 1 Exclave # Ship Destroyed #
17 38 6 ** Tyr # Ship Destroyed #
18 27 0 ** Dodger *** Escape Pod ***
19 20 24 ** .-Trooper-. Merchant Cruiser
20 0 0 ** Blackjack Merchant Cruiser
21 0 -10 5 Artaxs # Ship Destroyed #
22 0 0 ** Dangerousdave *** Escape Pod ***
23 0 0 ** LowkeY Merchant Cruiser
24 0 -10 ** Sephru # Ship Destroyed #
25 0 0 ** yourafuckinglyersysop Merchant Cruiser
26 0 0 ** Sandman Merchant Cruiser


Trade Wars 2002 Trader Rankings : 04/18/14 05:04:39 PM

# Rank Alignment Corp Trader Name Ship Type
--- --------------------- -- ------------------------------ ------------------
1 55,205 2,812 ** q Nova StarShip
2 9,527 1,434 5 Phaedrus Intrepid GunStar
3 2,621 -1,014 7 Destroyer Merchant Cruiser
4 1,792 44 6 Ghost Scout Marauder
5 1,256 1,233 3 Dr. iLLuSion Y.W.D. Defiant FlagShip
6 914 1 ** Derkon *** Escape Pod ***
7 781 75 ** Medeski Merchant Cruiser
8 588 253 1 Xcathdra # Ship Destroyed #
9 418 1 2 Ethreal Warrior Defiant FlagShip
10 276 -4 ** Mally Merchant Cruiser
11 213 0 ** mega playboy # Ship Destroyed #
12 141 0 ** Vuux # Ship Destroyed #
13 59 0 1 Exclave # Ship Destroyed #
14 38 6 ** Tyr # Ship Destroyed #
15 27 0 ** Dodger *** Escape Pod ***
16 20 24 ** .-Trooper-. Merchant Cruiser
17 0 0 ** Dangerousdave *** Escape Pod ***
18 0 0 ** Blackjack Merchant Cruiser
19 0 -10 5 Artaxs # Ship Destroyed #
20 0 0 ** LowkeY Merchant Cruiser
21 0 -10 ** Sephru # Ship Destroyed #
22 0 0 ** Sandman Merchant Cruiser


Trade Wars 2002 Trader Rankings : 04/18/14 05:05:34 PM

# Rank Alignment Corp Trader Name Ship Type
--- --------------------- -- ------------------------------ ------------------
1 55,205 2,812 ** q Nova StarShip
2 9,527 1,434 5 Phaedrus Intrepid GunStar
3 2,626 -1,014 7 Destroyer Merchant Cruiser
4 1,792 44 6 Ghost Scout Marauder
5 1,256 1,233 3 Dr. iLLuSion Y.W.D. Defiant FlagShip
6 914 1 ** Derkon *** Escape Pod ***
7 781 75 ** Medeski Merchant Cruiser
8 588 253 1 Xcathdra # Ship Destroyed #
9 418 1 2 Ethreal Warrior Defiant FlagShip
10 286 0 ** Mally Merchant Cruiser
11 213 0 ** mega playboy # Ship Destroyed #
12 141 0 ** Vuux # Ship Destroyed #
13 59 0 1 Exclave # Ship Destroyed #
14 38 6 ** Tyr # Ship Destroyed #
15 27 0 ** Dodger *** Escape Pod ***
16 20 24 ** .-Trooper-. Merchant Cruiser
17 0 -10 ** Sephru # Ship Destroyed #
18 0 0 ** 5 of Subjunction 9 Merchant Cruiser
19 0 -10 5 Artaxs # Ship Destroyed #
20 0 0 ** Blackjack Merchant Cruiser
21 0 0 ** LowkeY Merchant Cruiser
22 0 0 ** Dangerousdave *** Escape Pod ***
23 0 0 ** Sandman Merchant Cruiser


The top one is how I left the game this morning before work. Then around 4:30pm I checked in and the sysop was threatening to ban me and CK if we did not take down the SD block. I cloaked out and headed home. Around 5:15 I was #SD# by the player in the cube who I had killed the day before. He mysteriously gained that ship and enough figs to kill me just in time before he quit corp 1, then had his ship taken from him, and then mysterioulsy reappears in a merchant cruisor.

Yeah... that looks like it is all on the up and up.

Author:  Survey_Says [ Thu Apr 18, 2002 5:46 pm ]
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This mysterious 5 of subjunction 9 borg cube player appears to simply be the sysop playing a 2nd account on his own board!

Author:  Rave [ Thu Apr 18, 2002 7:28 pm ]
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This mysterious 5 of subjunction 9 borg cube player appears to simply be the sysop playing a 2nd account on his own board!


Rave's Advice: Never play on a server where the sysop plays in his or her own games, and if you run a server, play your games elsewhere. As a player, you'll save yourself a lot of time and energy avoiding situations where a sysop might be cheating and ruining the game for you, and as a sysop playing elsewhere lessens the aggravation of having players accuse you of being a cheating sysop.

Lisa M. Wilson
aka Rave

Author:  pink [ Fri Apr 19, 2002 10:29 am ]
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quote:
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This mysterious 5 of subjunction 9 borg cube player appears to simply be the sysop playing a 2nd account on his own board!


Rave's Advice: Never play on a server where the sysop plays in his or her own games, and if you run a server, play your games elsewhere. As a player, you'll save yourself a lot of time and energy avoiding situations where a sysop might be cheating and ruining the game for you, and as a sysop playing elsewhere lessens the aggravation of having players accuse you of being a cheating sysop.

Lisa M. Wilson
aka Rave


All I have to say about this is whatever.. I am running my own server and will run it how i see fit.. I am playing as Q in my own startrek theme game.. and if I want to introduce the borg sooner into the game to take out a couple of Butthole players i don't see a problem with it.. hell they didn't see a problem killing newbies that had not even had a chance to start playing yet.. and its not like in an unlimited turn game they can't build everything up again.. I mean come on people have some sportsmanship.. I am just playing as a moderator in my own game. Its not like a ban kicked you or anything. and for fucks sakes if you don't want to play a game then don't.. just stay away.. I want people to be able to log in and have fun on my system.. newbie or non-newbie i don't care.. hell i even support peoples scripts and bots and am more than willing to help people learn. everyone knows it doesn't take much time to get a SD block going and start killing off newbies.. if you really want to play then log in play and kill players that can play on your own level.. I don't give a crap what you think a TW game should be like and I don't give a crap what you think about me or my game. As for cheating I'm the GameOp/SysOp/Moderator of course i have TEDIT access and if i want to make rules up as i go along so be it. If you don't like it.. go play somewhere else. of course in my turns based games I set them up to play aganst a few of my friends and could care less if anyone else wants to play or not. my server my rules...

pink
twgs.exiled.org

Author:  Survey_Says [ Fri Apr 19, 2002 12:17 pm ]
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His so called "bot" as you call it was just him logging in as another account into the game and running a script. This "bot" joined a corp with 2 other players. How the frack does a "bot" join a corp?

I killed the fracking "bot" for what that is worth, so I know that it was not some all knowing all powerful entity. It was just sucky old q (the sysop) playing a 2nd character.

And so when he got tired of me and Ck, he "released" his bot, which means he went into tedit, got my location, and logged in as the bot with an edited ship and took me out after I cloaked. I mean, who controls this "bot" who tells it who to kill? Because it seems like it was pretty disciminating since it only killed me and CK and then did nothing else.

And if you don't want the game to bang every 2 days, change the settings or close the fracking game, end of story. Don't let someone log in and play for over a day then decide you don't like how they play. Post some rules or something, christ.

Bottom line is this board blows, the sysop is a fracking cheat and I would suggest everyone stay away. I mean hell, go look at the logs for this game. Doesn't take a genius to put 2 and 2 togehter to figure out that the sysop uses TEDIT constantly.

I agree with Rave, sysops shouldn't play in their own games, and if they do at least don't use a fracking alias. That just makes it look like you are trying to hide the fact you are the sysop. This way I will know to stay away if I see you in the game.

Author:  Survey_Says [ Fri Apr 19, 2002 12:21 pm ]
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quote:
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This mysterious 5 of subjunction 9 borg cube player appears to simply be the sysop playing a 2nd account on his own board!


Rave's Advice: Never play on a server where the sysop plays in his or her own games, and if you run a server, play your games elsewhere. As a player, you'll save yourself a lot of time and energy avoiding situations where a sysop might be cheating and ruining the game for you, and as a sysop playing elsewhere lessens the aggravation of having players accuse you of being a cheating sysop.

Lisa M. Wilson
aka Rave


All I have to say about this is whatever.. I am running my own server and will run it how i see fit.. I am playing as Q in my own startrek theme game.. and if I want to introduce the borg sooner into the game to take out a couple of Butthole players i don't see a problem with it.. hell they didn't see a problem killing newbies that had not even had a chance to start playing yet.. and its not like in an unlimited turn game they can't build everything up again.. I mean come on people have some sportsmanship.. I am just playing as a moderator in my own game. Its not like a ban kicked you or anything. and for fucks sakes if you don't want to play a game then don't.. just stay away.. I want people to be able to log in and have fun on my system.. newbie or non-newbie i don't care.. hell i even support peoples scripts and bots and am more than willing to help people learn. everyone knows it doesn't take much time to get a SD block going and start killing off newbies.. if you really want to play then log in play and kill players that can play on your own level.. I don't give a crap what you think a TW game should be like and I don't give a crap what you think about me or my game. As for cheating I'm the GameOp/SysOp/Moderator of course i have TEDIT access and if i want to make rules up as i go along so be it. If you don't like it.. go play somewhere else. of course in my turns based games I set them up to play aganst a few of my friends and could care less if anyone else wants to play or not. my server my rules...

pink
twgs.exiled.org


He is playing Q on his own server means he is just like the character from the tv show hence he is all knowing because he has TEDIT.

And if the line about taking out 2 players on his own server doesn't bury this guy then I don't know what will.

I take the last line back, the whole post makes this guy look much worse then anything I could say.. well done pink.

Edited by - Survey_Says on April 19 2002 10:34:27 AM

Author:  Survey_Says [ Fri Apr 19, 2002 12:36 pm ]
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ROFLMAO!! Dammit, shut up and take it dude! It seems to me that u finally found a sysop who agrees with me. YOU GUYS ARE ASSHOLES! I spoke to Pink about what happened...U all were killing people who weren't even in the game for 2 minutes. WOW....it must be tough to kill Merchant Cruisers! All he did was give u guys what u obviously wanted. MORE COMPETITION! He created a bot for use later in the game, but since u guys were dicks, he used it early...it was his call and who the frack are u to question that! Heres my advice to you, if u wanna kill off newbs, so be it, thats how u play and im not gonna get into THAT argument again, But please play on the servers where the sysops don't give a frack! Pink put shitloads of effort into that game and he is right to not wanna see it go to crap after 2 days. Aside from popular belief, Sysops DO NOT like to bang their games every 2 days. All im saying is this, he didn't cheat and he did what was his right as a sysop. If im not mistaken, Pink will follow Rave's advice and stay out of active gameplay, but the unlimited game WILL BE MODERATED from now on. It is a good idea actually....because now unlim games can be fast paced(the way u like it) AND on moderated servers, slow and tactical. So.....stay away from the moderated server and go ruin someone elses game.
L8ter

*Proud Member of the Alliance*

Live Long And Prosper!


STFU, only a wannabe newb like you would like a game run like this one cause you are in bed with pink and helped design it. If you agree with pink's post you are just as stupid as you were that day on Terra where you were trying to convince me that duping was ok.



Edited by - Survey_Says on April 19 2002 10:36:47 AM

Author:  pink [ Fri Apr 19, 2002 1:36 pm ]
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He is playing Q on his own server means he is just like the character from the tv show hence he is all knowing because he has TEDIT.

And if the line about taking out 2 players on his own server doesn't bury this guy then I don't know what will.

I take the last line back, the whole post makes this guy look much worse then anything I could say.. well done pink.

Edited by - Survey_Says on April 19 2002 10:34:27 AM


I never tried to hide the fact that i was playing the game as Q.. and anyone that wants to be involved in a very StarTrek Theme game is more than welcome too.. and in an unlimited turn game ANYONE can Kill ANYONE they want to kill at ANY TIME you know this and anyone that plays in unlimited turn games knows this.. of course some people are going to be better at war than others. so I won't hesitate to help out all players that want to learn. and with you killing them 2 minutes after they log into the game.. they figure frack i'm not going to play on that server.. Come on dumbass its a fracking game.. And I made it I run it I control it.. so frack off and go play on your own servers.

pink

Author:  Kemper_3 [ Fri Apr 19, 2002 2:50 pm ]
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STFU, only a wannabe newb like you would like a game run like this one cause you are in bed with pink and helped design it. If you agree with pink's post you are just as stupid as you were that day on Terra where you were trying to convince me that duping was ok.

Edited by - Survey_Says on April 19 2002 10:36:47 AM


Of course he likes a game where whoever is in the lead is removed. After he's the only one left, he might get a chance to win. Of course, if posi was winning and got deleted, I'm sure you'd be hearing a different tune from him. Thank you for letting me know what a fuckup server this is. I like knowing of places and people to steer clear of.

Author:  Kemper_3 [ Fri Apr 19, 2002 2:53 pm ]
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HAHAHA....looks like someone is upset that a bot killed him. Dude, get over it. Pink didn't dupe, it was a bot because ive seen it and used it on my own TWGS. The fact that u are replying with personal insults on myself and Pink just shows how your arguments are GROUNDLESS. And that day on terra, for all those who are reading this, I was upset at Survey_says because I thought he were wrong in your asessment of someone duping. For the record, once I spoke to the sysop of the board, I went and APOLOGIZED to u right after. Do you remember THAT? I didn't think so. I won't lower myself to insulting you on a personal level, instead ill just say this about your gameplay...YOU ARE A NO TALENT NEWB KILLING LOSER WHO GETS HIS KICKS BY COMING INTO GAMES AND KILLING MERCHANT CRUISERS WITH 500 FIGS!
Have A Nice Day!

*Proud Member of the Alliance*

Live Long And Prosper!


Actually, the no talent losers would be the ones who keep getting killed in a mf that starts with 500 figs. When I'm trying to dominate a game, I will kill someone starting out every chance I get. You're retarded if you think it is good strategy to let them build up defenses before you kill them.

Author:  Kemper_3 [ Fri Apr 19, 2002 2:55 pm ]
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Of course he likes a game where whoever is in the lead is removed. After he's the only one left, he might get a chance to win. Of course, if posi was winning and got deleted, I'm sure you'd be hearing a different tune from him. Thank you for letting me know what a fuckup server this is. I like knowing of places and people to steer clear of.



I like the *'s the forum inserts into an unmoderated forum.

Author:  Bone Collector [ Fri Apr 19, 2002 4:40 pm ]
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OMYGOD!! I have to insert my two cents worth here. THANK YOU SO MUCH SURVEY because i almost let loki talk me into coming over to this game yesterday. I cannot stand people who suck at TW and try to play God because they have tedit. I bet he even tedits himself stuff when "playing against friends" as he said on his turns games. Geez, what a friggin LOSER. Pink you really shouldnt post games that you are banging unless you plan on keeping them on the honest side. Please dont come on here talking about how you are a "friend to the Newbs". Do them a favor and let them get the hang of the game by learning the hard way. I did. Most of the people i play with did also. Going into tedit and giving them stuff or taking away stuff from the leaders is insane. Instead, try to coach them to be better players. The ones who will quit after being killed are not the kind of people i want to see come into the game anyway. And finally, for the MILLIONTH time, stick to some tame turns games you friggin pansy Butt fags. In saying that, be sure to stay away from Kemper in turns games though as he "killed all the newbs in ten seconds" in the latest one i am playing against him.

Author:  Survey_Says [ Fri Apr 19, 2002 5:11 pm ]
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Of course he likes a game where whoever is in the lead is removed. After he's the only one left, he might get a chance to win. Of course, if posi was winning and got deleted, I'm sure you'd be hearing a different tune from him. Thank you for letting me know what a fuckup server this is. I like knowing of places and people to steer clear of.


lol, no crap... cfposi might win a game for once. I mean christ, even I could win a game I edited on a board where me and the sysop are best friends and the sysop has a TEDIT habit.

Author:  Survey_Says [ Fri Apr 19, 2002 5:14 pm ]
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q posted this universal announcement:
I have removed myself from active game play and have taken on the role of game moderator. Please come to me with any problems or questions. There are no set "Rules" in this Universe. and anyone is welcome to play how ever they want to play. But I will step in when I think the game could use it. If you don't like the Idea of a game moderator named Q in an unlimited turn STAR TREK THEME game then please play on another server.

LOL! Translation: Play however you want, but when you start playing in a way that I don't like I will go into TEDIT to "fix
" the game.

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