Are you sure? Unless your playing a 600 turn/day game, wouldn't losing your turns for dying nullify any 75k you started with(assuming sub-zero starting cash. not sure I've ever seen a sub-zero game with that few turns)?

CBY cashing or CBY mothing is generally considered a tactic for unlims

H

In my personal opinion, there is NEVER a reason to NOT DIE when you get killed in this game.

To me, that's just idiocy. The idea of ANY Twar game is to "Live Long and Prosper", Not "Die, Die and Die again!"

I would be the first one in line to REMOVE that entire capability from Twar.

Well, it is an option, not a hard rule. I think its use comes from the same motivation that drives unlimited time and turns. Some people just don't like restrictions.

Master,

If you look at the default settings of Pirates Final, the Death Delay is off, but Tourney mode is on (set for 10 kills) So life is still precious. Its a good tourney edit. A corp loses a player once they been killed 10 times.

H

I only see its use in training games. In "real" games it shouldn't be used.

               / Promethius / Enigma / Wolfen /

"A man who has no skills can be taught, a man who has no honor has nothing."

My 2 cents - I think turning death delay off also comes from the fact that very few games have full corp members any more. When invading, especially late in the game it takes a great many loaded IC's to take a door down, if you only have a couple of players per corp, that limits your capability to moth cannons down.

So in a 3 man tourney, there are going to be some cannons that just can't be drained with 6 or 8 IC's. So in this case it's necessary.

But in a normal game or non-tourney death delay off isn't fair game play.

Ok. I understand the comments but I still disagree. If you blow your ship up, unless your in a pod, you should be dead, tourney or no tourney, lacking players, short corps, etc. The idea is still to find a way to remain alive and still attain your goals. If the edit of the game allows growth so quickly as to outpace the players in the game, then the edit should be corrected.

I will concede however that in some instances, the sysop might decide to build and all out get as much as you can until the server makes smoke game. Those games are strictly for those that can sit at the keyboard 24/7 managing bot scripts and in those cases, they really aren't playing the Trade Wars game I know anyway so do as you please.

I think the important thing is that there's some penalty for death. Waiting until the next day to restart is just one possible penalty. The problem is, TW actually REWARDS you for dying when death delay is disabled. Kind of silly.

When was turning death delay off a part of the game? Or, I should say when was it added as a tedit option?

If Death Delay is off, make the cash and ship you get 1 amount/ship @ start of game then if you die and come back in you get a scout and no cash. That would eliminate CBY cashing, especially since the bank at dock can holds a lot more cash these days really no reason to give cash. Just a thought.

Cruncher, v3.11.51. Not sure when that was, but the last v3.11 revision was 64. I've been counting up versions ever since (v3.12..v3.22).

Here's a radical idea. What if you're expected to set your restart ship aside as insurance in case you die? In other words, when you restart, you randomly restart in any empty ship you own. If you don't have any empty ships, you can't restart until the next day when you get a new ship.

Interesting idea

I like it.

Several of these 'Anti-cby-cashing' ideas are workable. I
personally like the 'wait til the top of the hour to reenter.'
That would eliminate cby cashing and mothing mostly.

Aren't we losing sight of the fact that this (death delay off)
is a setting, and is optional? Like many new features that
are designed to fine tune the game now, it can be turned
on and off.


The weekend I spent writing that cby cashing script was a
blast. Would I use this script in a real game? I'd never be
able to, as a real game would have a death delay. I never
troubled myself about the morality of using it.