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Admin 1
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Slim Shady wrote: What right does "EIS" have to the awards? It was run from 1996-1998 by Gypsy. 1999 by Wookie 2000 by Fuseblown and Phoe6e 2001 by Gypsy 2002-2004 by Ck/K3 2005 by Vulcan 2006 by EIS 2007 by Slim I'd say if anyone has the right to dictate who can, and can not run them, it would be Gypsy and *not* "EIS". I leave you with a few quotes from Gypsy himself: Quote: Seems silly doesn’t it. To say that someone doesn’t have the right to vote for someone else because they aren’t qualified is just plain moronic. Quote: because Xide did make a good point, that the awards should be voted on by members of the Trade Wars Community Quote: Losing didn’t use to be such a travesty, what was important was that you played your best against the best you could find.
*******Remember no flames**************
As Far as i know and as far as I am concerned EIS will hold the awards for as long as it cares to...What right does it have?
EIS owns / sells TWGS software.
But whats to stop slim from having his own awards??? EleQ did it..... Mana gave out awards too.....
EIS ...The Offical Distributer of TWGS
can hold thier OWN Awards if they Choose to. No one can stop Slim..and No one can stop EIS . Ain't America Great?
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Steel Magnolia
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uh, oh
I didn't see a flame so it musta been me burning.
Accuse me of being off topic and I'll own up.
Slim, does this mean that you are not gonna pay for your ma's funeral? All I want is a refridgerator box for a pod, a flower lei and Jimmy Buffett's 'It's Been a Lovely Cruise'
Boat Drinks and Corona for all of course.
P.S. You can sprinkle my ashes at my Beachhouse on the Moon.
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Parrothead
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Quote: Slim......... it's being run "by EIS" which is a company, making it a "professional" award
I may be mistaken Slim. I often am. Professional means someone is getting paid.
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Promethius
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Space Ghost wrote: *******Remember no flames************** As Far as i know and as far as I am concerned EIS will hold the awards for as long as it cares to...What right does it have? EIS owns / sells TWGS software. But whats to stop slim from having his own awards??? EleQ did it..... Mana gave out awards too..... EIS ...The Offical Distributer of TWGS can hold thier OWN Awards if they Choose to. No one can stop Slim..and No one can stop EIS . Ain't America Great?
It really doesn't matter who hosts the awards. The legitimacy <sp>, if we can call it that, is bestowed by the users. It doesn't matter if it is EIS and is "official" or if it is by a player that wants to hold an awards vote.
The "10th Annual" as I have said before implies continuity and there is none - either by category or by host. These awards should be: "The 1st Annual ClassicTW.com TradeWars Awards". No history, no baggage.
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Slim Shady
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Parrot, JP is getting paid.
And prom is 100% correct,
Quote: It really doesn't matter who hosts the awards. The legitimacy <sp>, if we can call it that, is bestowed by the users. It doesn't matter if it is EIS and is "official" or if it is by a player that wants to hold an awards vote.
The "10th Annual" as I have said before implies continuity and there is none - either by category or by host. These awards should be: "The 1st Annual ClassicTW.com TradeWars Awards". No history, no baggage.
I'm going to bring the legitimacy back to the awards, I'm going to bring back the continuity, and I'm bringing sexy back.
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Cerne
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Promethius wrote: I am not sure if this was directed to me or not, but since it followed my post w/o a quote I assume it is. I am not sure what part of my post indicates censoring or an attempt at such. Prom, I was still discussing with Slim, I hadn't read your post at the time I made mine. Cerne
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Parrothead
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Just a joke Slim whatever you guys decide about the awards if fine with me. I had opinions about other side issues but I had my say already.
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Admin 1
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Slim Shady wrote: Parrot, JP is getting paid. And prom is 100% correct, Quote: It really doesn't matter who hosts the awards. The legitimacy <sp>, if we can call it that, is bestowed by the users. It doesn't matter if it is EIS and is "official" or if it is by a player that wants to hold an awards vote.
The "10th Annual" as I have said before implies continuity and there is none - either by category or by host. These awards should be: "The 1st Annual ClassicTW.com TradeWars Awards". No history, no baggage.
I'm going to bring the legitimacy back to the awards, I'm going to bring back the continuity, and I'm bringing sexy back.
Good luck with your awards....Eis will continue with its awards and u guys can just fight over the name heh....
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Oso
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Promethius wrote: Space Ghost wrote: *******Remember no flames************** As Far as i know and as far as I am concerned EIS will hold the awards for as long as it cares to...What right does it have? EIS owns / sells TWGS software. But whats to stop slim from having his own awards??? EleQ did it..... Mana gave out awards too..... EIS ...The Offical Distributer of TWGS can hold thier OWN Awards if they Choose to. No one can stop Slim..and No one can stop EIS . Ain't America Great? It really doesn't matter who hosts the awards. The legitimacy <sp>, if we can call it that, is bestowed by the users. It doesn't matter if it is EIS and is "official" or if it is by a player that wants to hold an awards vote. The "10th Annual" as I have said before implies continuity and there is none - either by category or by host. These awards should be: "The 1st Annual ClassicTW.com TradeWars Awards". No history, no baggage.
Prom, quick question- how could last year's awards have been the "9th Annual" using your assertion on continuity?
They have been hosted at different sites and by different people since its inception. Categories for awards evolve with time as well.
I do see how calling these awards the 1st annual ClassicTW awards would make sense, but then if someone else does awards, it could go one of two ways: like the Golden Globes and the Oscars, or like the USA Today poll and the AP poll (College football). While these references seem a little tenuous, if there are more than one set of awards, we might end up with something like a BCS to solve things (which only makes things worse if you hate the BCS) or if people can adopt both, they will be seen as separate but equally important.
You've raised a good point, but can you also see where they could be seen as the 10th Annual awards as well?
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Silence
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Slim Shady wrote: Parrot, JP is getting paid. And prom is 100% correct, Quote: It really doesn't matter who hosts the awards. The legitimacy <sp>, if we can call it that, is bestowed by the users. It doesn't matter if it is EIS and is "official" or if it is by a player that wants to hold an awards vote.
The "10th Annual" as I have said before implies continuity and there is none - either by category or by host. These awards should be: "The 1st Annual ClassicTW.com TradeWars Awards". No history, no baggage.
I'm going to bring the legitimacy back to the awards, I'm going to bring back the continuity, and I'm bringing sexy back.
OMG, WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Baited
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To be annual awards means to be the same, and over all through the years they have been changed a little but not much. Then when Zen decided in his brilliance to have eis put them on, he Changed every part of the awards, every category, So how could u call that the 10th annual awards? Just not right, But then again we are dealing with the all WISE admin who Thinks he knows Everything. Hmmm maby thats why his corp was the second to go out of 6... hmmm I not surprised...
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Oso
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Hey, we were supposed to go out first remember?
So it IS technically an upset...
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Slim Shady
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Space Ghost wrote: Slim Shady wrote: Parrot, JP is getting paid. And prom is 100% correct, Quote: It really doesn't matter who hosts the awards. The legitimacy <sp>, if we can call it that, is bestowed by the users. It doesn't matter if it is EIS and is "official" or if it is by a player that wants to hold an awards vote. The "10th Annual" as I have said before implies continuity and there is none - either by category or by host. These awards should be: "The 1st Annual ClassicTW.com TradeWars Awards". No history, no baggage. I'm going to bring the legitimacy back to the awards, I'm going to bring back the continuity, and I'm bringing sexy back. Good luck with your awards....Eis will continue with its awards and u guys can just fight over the name heh....
So now all of the sudden you speak for EIS?
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Promethius
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Oso, I will agree that the awards can be called anything and 10th annual is one of them. The catagories evolve, and evolution is the key I believe. Evolution to me means a gradual change with improvements over time.
This seems to be the first time that an "official" awards vote has been given, not one that was provided by a player in an unofficial capacity (I am assuming they were all unofficial).
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Admin 1
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Slim Shady wrote: Space Ghost wrote: Slim Shady wrote: Parrot, JP is getting paid. And prom is 100% correct, Quote: It really doesn't matter who hosts the awards. The legitimacy <sp>, if we can call it that, is bestowed by the users. It doesn't matter if it is EIS and is "official" or if it is by a player that wants to hold an awards vote. The "10th Annual" as I have said before implies continuity and there is none - either by category or by host. These awards should be: "The 1st Annual ClassicTW.com TradeWars Awards". No history, no baggage. I'm going to bring the legitimacy back to the awards, I'm going to bring back the continuity, and I'm bringing sexy back. Good luck with your awards....Eis will continue with its awards and u guys can just fight over the name heh.... So now all of the sudden you speak for EIS?
Oh ...i'm sorry...would you like to hear the same comment from soneone one else?? Would that make my statement more valid for you?? Pick who you want from the EIS team and I'll do my utmost best to see that they confirm what i just stated just for YOU Slim!
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