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Steel Magnolia
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Joined: Wed May 02, 2001 2:00 am Posts: 256 Location: USA
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Yay! TBH is back
maggie
_________________ I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead..........Jimmy Buffett
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| Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:49 pm |
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Traitor
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Joined: Thu Mar 21, 2002 3:00 am Posts: 890 Location: USA
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quote:Originally posted by Orion_Blastar
Moderators, who moderate posts by moving threads, editing them, enforce the rules of the forum and EIS.
Gurus, who answer game questions and provide more information and advice on the game.
Technicians, who troubleshoot technical problems with the forum, TWGS, and other things related to Tradewars.
There won't be much difference between how I post now and how I posted before I became a mod. I mostly stick to answering questions. If I know it, I usually answer it, unless someone else answered it alreready. If I don't know it and feel I should, I research it and get back to them when I have an answer. The biggest difference is that now I can try to streamline the information in the school forum somewhat to make searches easier and more productive, mostly by adding a few key words here and there. (and NO, I won't just stick a plug for my site in every thread. [:D])
I'm not a tech...I couldn't fix this thing if it broke. Heck, I can bearly keep my site going.
I'm also pretty liberal about what I consider inappropriate. I don't like seeing new players asking simple questions getting flamed. I think it's fine to kill them over and over in game, but if they come here to learn, they should be given some consideration. But if Zen and Graz go at it, I say bring on the popcorn!
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I like the fact that Zentocks finally answered the question, and I wonder why he took so long? Part of being a moderator is to constantly monitor the forum, at least a few times a day. If you don't do that, it is almost like not showing up for work and forcing others to do the work for you. Just my personal opinion on the subject.
Part of reason for having additional moderators is to ensure that someone is available to answer questions. Lately, I'm in the forums M-F 8-5pm PST. I usually peek every hour or so. Tomorrow that could change. I just try to get to the forums once a day, and if I miss a day, well...someone will get to them. Now if EIS actually PAID me, well, that would be work, and I'd spend all of my time here. What I'm doing is a public service based soley on my love of the game, and not people like you [:P]
You can't call out one of the moderators and expect an answer from that individual. Well, you can, but that's entirely up to them.
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I just wanted to know Zentock's level of TW knowledge, was all, and why he didn't answer and let the other moderators answer for him.
He didn't LET me answer FOR him. (I didn't get some frantic ICQ from Zen asking me to "PLEASE answer Graz's question, 'cause I, Zen, am too afeared" or whatever. Believe me, if I had, I woulda posted THAT gem here. [}:)])
I also know that this thread was about Zen, and I made my resposes all about me. heh. It's always about me. [^]
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Man, I gotta quit showing up here...next thing you know i'll get dragged back in.
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| Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:43 pm |
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Orion_Blastar
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Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2003 2:00 am Posts: 837 Location: USA
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Well the EIS forums said he posted on 7am, and you posted at 11pm. That appears to be 16 hours. Like I said moderators usually read a forum at least a few times a day, and at least post a courtesy of "I'm looking into it" to let the question asker know that you read it and are researching it. Since you were online, but didn't post a courtesy post, that gives me the opinion that you were rude to a question asker. I can think of Tradewars players that put more time into their online games more often than that. Even if you got 8 hours of sleep while Graz posted it, there was another 8 hour delay. You have no day job, you are retired in your profile. Yet I will cut you some slack because you did finally answer the question.
Yeah you assumed that everyone knew what the P-Torp setting is and why it is important but did not even mention it. Some of us might not know things like that and take your advice and not know what the P-Torp setting is or how it affects mothing and then get clobbered in a game, and then get made fun of as a result. Good for you I knew that, others might not. I posted an example of how mothing can use the P-Torp to get around unsheilded planets and only moth one planet by landing on it. Players need to know how to get around a bot or use a bot and what strengths and weaknesses a bot might have. I mean, come on, you write the best way to moth and you leave out the bot/anti-bot combat? What with the number of people running bots out there, and the number of people getting upset at people who run bots and want to learn how to get around them.
In any case I don't know your TW skill, this is one of your first questions you answered. I see that you have an impressive level, higher than Graz expected. Me, I always find weaknesses and flaws in everything because I am a perfectionist and my brain is wired to find those flaws and weaknesses being an analynical mind employing deduction and induction. I know it is annoying to some, but it is a gift and it is a curse. I've been looking for ways around that curse part. I guess that is why some call me an Internet Troll?
My gift has been used to debug programs, solve problems, write programs, and I used it to earn a 3.91 GPA in a Bachelors of Business Management degree recently, which I took off time from Tradewars to finish up. But I got too sick to work or play Tradewars, so I gave that up for those reasons as well. My wife got tired of me playing three hours or more a day, and wanted me to limit it to half an hour or so. I couldn't do that, because it would let Corp members down. But I still love the game, even if I am no longer playing.
Sorry if I misjudged you here, these are just my opinions and views. I wish you well as a new moderator. Consider this your baptism of fire or something and you passed it. Dealing with Internet Trolls like me is just part of the job. [:D]
quote:Originally posted by Zentock
I responded to Graz's post 16:17 mins after he posted his, as of this time it is 11:29 PM so do the math what time did he post? Though the forum stamp says it was at 7:18 am what time zone must that be in ?
And the delay was due to my catching it so early this am, that I decided
to wait, think on my words, compose my response then post it at my lesure, I am not going to be rushed into a post to satisfy anyone.
To do so would be irresponsible and insulting to the users of this forum and the moderators that I will be working with.
As to my knowledge of the game, none of the users of this forum have any true idea what I really know. (Though some may want to think its less then what I do know for reasons of there own.) And I am quite able to perform my mission on this forum, as will become evident in due time.
Oh and Orion, P-ton Defenses are an assumed part of the online offline defense risk. I didnt mention it as its the most obviouse component, and the article was written on an attackers point of view.
Nor was it written to ellucidate the the tactics of bot, anti bot combat.
Considering a level six planet with 200 planatary shields is immune to p-tons i further didnt feel the need to mention it.
But then personaly I dont leave my planets shielded that weakly, but thats just another can of worms to be opened and my "inexperiance" challenged?
_________________ I'm getting too old for this sort of thing.
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| Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:59 pm |
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Orion_Blastar
Lieutenant Commander
Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2003 2:00 am Posts: 837 Location: USA
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quote:Originally posted by Zentock
And to add to that i know for a fact theres over 1000 servers out there. So twars is not dead yet, not by a long shot.
That is because Retrogaming is so "in" these days. [:o)] I mean if Pacman made a comeback in the arcade (they fixed up the old Pacman arcade machines) and the home (they make a $20 to $35 handheld joystick unit with Pacman, etc on it that plugs into a TV set) then EIS can bring back Tradewars as well. [^]
Once EIS completes the Unix conversion, the majority of Unix servers on the Internet can run Tradewars and there will be more than 1000 servers running Tradewars. Unix does dominate the web and mail server part of the Internet, even if Windows dominates the web browser part of the Internet. [;)]
_________________ I'm getting too old for this sort of thing.
I am from http://district268.xormad.com/ District 268
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| Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:08 pm |
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Orion_Blastar
Lieutenant Commander
Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2003 2:00 am Posts: 837 Location: USA
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Well I thought EIS was paying moderators out of the registrations of TWGS. I guess not?
Yeah if Graz and Zen go at it, you pop the popcorn and I'll sell the pay per view rights. [:)]
I guess that some people expect to see a certain moderator answer a question. Yet it is more of a team effort that I was not aware of, taking shifts and all of that. There is no shift posted, which makes it more confusing. Graz did direct his question at Zen, and I took Zen's silence as avoidance which is referenced from my time at a help desk that I used to work at where being silent and not answering questions right away is seen as work avoidance. We were told to at least say we were looking into it before putting someone on hold and to wait while we researched it, to avoid doing a quickdraw and sloppy answer and out of courtesy to the person asking the question. Manners and all of that you know.
Sorry for the confusion, I apologize if I offended anyone.
_________________ I'm getting too old for this sort of thing.
I am from http://district268.xormad.com/ District 268
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| Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:18 pm |
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LoCuTiS
Boo! inc.
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2005 2:00 am Posts: 632 Location: USA
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quote:Originally posted by Orion_Blastar
Well the EIS forums said he posted on 7am, and you posted at 11pm. That appears to be 16 hours. Like I said moderators usually read a forum at least a few times a day, and at least post a courtesy of "I'm looking into it" to let the question asker know that you read it and are researching it. Since you were online, but didn't post a courtesy post, that gives me the opinion that you were rude to a question asker.
[quote]Originally posted by Zentock
Orion get over it already, Zentock has other things to do. like he said, he saw the post and decided to wait until morning, if i planned on typing as much as he did i would wait until morning too if i was tired. Zentock has some other problems going on which takes up plenty of his time, just him being here once every 16 hours is amazing.
/language
get the **** over it and cut him some slack
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| Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:49 pm |
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Silence
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Joined: Tue Mar 26, 2002 3:00 am Posts: 1416 Location: Canada
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You know loc, every post of yours seems to be a bit snappy lately.
Maybe you should take some of the advice offered to you in these forums and chill right out dude.
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| Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:11 pm |
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Orion_Blastar
Lieutenant Commander
Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2003 2:00 am Posts: 837 Location: USA
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quote:Originally posted by Silence
You know loc, every post of yours seems to be a bit snappy lately.
Maybe you should take some of the advice offered to you in these forums and chill right out dude.
Yeah too much stress is bad for his heart. Loc, you ever heard of hypertenson?[:D]
_________________ I'm getting too old for this sort of thing.
I am from http://district268.xormad.com/ District 268
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| Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:14 pm |
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LoCuTiS
Boo! inc.
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2005 2:00 am Posts: 632 Location: USA
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i wouldnt be snippy if people werent being plain retarded.. on a couple other threads i do apologize for being snippy, i thought people were being serious when they were joking and i posted something snippy at them.. but in this thread i think everyone is acting a little too harsh about zentock not posting immediately after the question was posted.
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| Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:51 pm |
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Speed Demon
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Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:00 am Posts: 676 Location: USA
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I honestly think zen can answer whatever questions are posted on forums to me its not the tech expertise of the person that makes a good moderator. It helps but it’s not a job-breaking requirement.
Answers to questions can be researched and found knowledge can be acquired. Also, there are others around here that answer questions all the time.
As for the time frame that there answered even when K3 was trolling there were times when he would not be around for a few days and peeps still got answers to there questions of course he would pop in and either give anther view or tactic no one else would have thought about or completely corrected us un schooled newbie’s.
Just because every game I have been in against zen he horribly lost doesn’t mean he doesn’t know what’s he doing just that maybe he has a hard time implementing the knowledge in to game play or is always stuck with a sub par corp.
I think zen will do fine answering questions and sharing his knowledge with others around here that’s not where my worries are focused about him being a moderator.
Now I have rambled enough about this lets move on.
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| Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:11 pm |
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Silence
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Joined: Tue Mar 26, 2002 3:00 am Posts: 1416 Location: Canada
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Ya everybody hopped on the Bandwagon of this thread pretty quick. I have a feeling they all wanted to be moderators. 
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| Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:29 pm |
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Orion_Blastar
Lieutenant Commander
Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2003 2:00 am Posts: 837 Location: USA
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quote: Originally posted by LoCuTiS
i wouldnt be snippy if people werent being plain retarded.. on a couple other threads i do apologize for being snippy, i thought people were being serious when they were joking and i posted something snippy at them.. but in this thread i think everyone is acting a little too harsh about zentock not posting immediately after the question was posted.
I resemble that remark, as a member of the local moron's union I am certified retarded. Local 6 7/8th and don't you forget it! "We are morons, tried and true, and we will do our yell for you! Nahayahahayahaayahahyahahahahyay!" [:o)]
Oh please, just try not to be so serious about the things other people post on this forum. I use this definition of serious sometimes:
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Serious [;)]
Learn to take jokes as well as give them out, that is the key to keeping your sanity. Uncyclopedia helps me learn to joke about life:
http://uncyclopedia.org/
No Tradewars article there yet, I think everyone who submits articles are slacking off there. [:P]
_________________ I'm getting too old for this sort of thing.
I am from http://district268.xormad.com/ District 268
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| Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:41 pm |
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LoCuTiS
Boo! inc.
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2005 2:00 am Posts: 632 Location: USA
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maybe im wrong, but it seems that the negative tone you have with zentock is not joking
_________________ I thought I was her daddy but she had 5 more.
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| Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:25 pm |
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Orion_Blastar
Lieutenant Commander
Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2003 2:00 am Posts: 837 Location: USA
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quote:Originally posted by LoCuTiS
maybe im wrong, but it seems that the negative tone you have with zentock is not joking
Of course you are wrong. You cannot even use proper grammar. Capitalize the "maybe", capitalize the "i" and add in an "'" to make "I'm", and "zentock" is a proper name and needs to be capitalized, and you forgot your punctuation.
"Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems that the negative tone you have with Zentock is not joking?"
There much better, what you had wrote hurt my eyes. [:)]
Pleased to meet you, hope you guessed my name? Oh yeah Ah,
what’s puzzling you, is the nature of my game.
I am Orion Blastar, Internet Troll, fiction writer, comedian, space pirate, ninja, holy avenger, angel, psychopath/sociopath, moderate republican, liberal democrat, and other things I keep being accused of and lie about. Yeah I am a King of Negativity, but only in the funniest way possible like Andy Kaufman was.
Truth is Orion Blastar does not exist, but is a fictional character I created for a RPG in the late 1980's and the name kind of stuck, sort of a wisecracker with a sense of humor that only God can understand and very few others who are enlightened can stand or understand. The type of guy who would annoy and upset Ghandi so much that even Ghandi would try to take a punch at him. Yeah, that Orion Blastar.
_________________ I'm getting too old for this sort of thing.
I am from http://district268.xormad.com/ District 268
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| Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:43 pm |
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LoCuTiS
Boo! inc.
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2005 2:00 am Posts: 632 Location: USA
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that the best you can get on me? my grammar? good material.. keep it up
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| Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:52 pm |
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