Same edit as last time?

PiratesFinal from http://tw2002.info/twa_db/twa_db_project.html with the following changes:
Sectors: 10K; Turns: 3K; corp size: 5-man; planets per sector: 4;
tournament mode: OFF

Am I forgetting something? Port density is 40%... that okay?
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Edit:
We found some problems in the test game.

The following changes will be made
- normal death delay
- unlimited deaths
- Starting colos: 500K
- Should busts clear every day? It's every 2 days in practice game..
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We have a potential SysOp lined up: Aidan the Enforcer. He is setting up a practice game with the above settings.

Here is the address:

StevensComputerService.com:23

Should be game P.


And here is our tentative roster:

1.Zoom
2.(vacant)
3.Steamer
4.Comet
5.(vacant)

same edit and settings are fine with us.

Still working on our roster. for now its:


1)Star Killer
2)Cruncher
3)Xanos
4)Trahen
5)???????


sk

Can we go for Sunday June 6th 8pm EST start time?

Assuming you mean July 6th We should be fine with that...

Is this a v1 or v2?
sk

Okay,
Start Time: Sunday July 6th, 8pm Eastern



It will be v2. Since our last game was a v1, it's not so easy to just keep the same settings; we should all try out the practice game and make sure we all agree.

I've already posted above a couple of things that need to change about the practice game. I'd encourage you guys to log in and check it out, so that there are no surprises come game day. One thing I noticed was some irregularities about my ping compared to other servers, so pay special attention to that.

The latency issues have been resolved. He currently has latency set to 100ms but that's at the low end of the recommended range. If anyone thinks we should bump it up a bit let me know.

My ping wasn't bad, but SK's was in the 300's.

Trader Vic still runs a v1 server... just a suggestion.

Aren't you the one that pushed for v2 in the first place?

Anyway I'm noticing inconsistencies between this game and our v1 game. For example, in our last game, starting colos was 500K, but in this one it's over 2M, even though we didn't touch any setting related to colos. We've already been through this, of course: a TWA made in v1 does not produce the same settings as in v2, because v1 and v2 are incompatible.

But I can't go to v1 because I've already put the corp together, and at least one of them will quit if we switch to v1. He's our most experienced player, and has already invested time in the practice game, so I won't feel right about switching to v1 now.

I'm sick of this v1 vs v2 Bullcrap. I'm ready to quit playing over this. What is this garbage? Who's responsible for destroying this community? I cant put a freaking game together because the fracking community is divided.

Edit: I know who's responsible. His name is John Pritchett, and someone should have explained the concept of backward compatibility to him before he destroyed trade wars.

Edit:
Unless someone else wants to organize this, we're playing v2, sorry. Too late to change it now. But we can change the settings to match our last game as much as possible. I'm noting the start colos in my above post. Please let me know what else you find. After another day or two we'll ask Aidan the Enforcer to rebang the practice game.

Host what you want, Play what you want.
Three Games Old School Settings are setup.
Other Slots are open for custom Games.
But as a hobby board i enjoy it.

Feel better now?
sk

A little bit, but not much. Why the hell is Cruncher asking for a v1 server??? That really pisses me off. First she comes along and bitches and complains and persuades JP to make this stupid piece of v2 garbage, now she wants v1 back again. Well it's too late Cruncher, trade wars is already ruined, thanks in large part to you.

I think it was because I was belly aching about playing on a v2 server. I'll be running a Bot in the game, with an insignificant amount of keytime (had it been v1, I would probably loose sleep to play... bah.. sorry belly aching again). I think J.P. should have really thought about his intentions before leaving us with a half-arsed attempt at whatever v2 is supposed to be.

Sorry to derail the thread.

I'm Sick of this whole v1/v2 debate myself, but what i'm more sick of is people crying about something thats been over for years. JP did what he did for whatever reason. JP owns this and made the changes he made because he wanted to. bottom line. as far this game goes we asked for v1 for 2 reasons. 1) the 1st game as played on a v1 and I was looking for some consistency for the rematch. plus when i went on to the sever YOU picked my ping is over 300. 2) when Lonestar came on as our 5th player he asked for a v1. So i hit you up on ICQ and we talked about it and i agreed to play the game on that server. at the same time we were talking Cruncher made the post on here not knowing that we talked. Your responce to that was to blow up. and then agian with another personal attack. So now you have me at the point were im ready to say: you have have a nice game.

sk

What the hell are you talking about? How can you say it's been over for years, when just yesterday, the very same person who pushed for v2 in the first place requested v1? It's obviously not "over" at all, and certainly hasn't been "over for years". If it was, everyone would be playing v2. If it's been over for years then why did Lonestar request v1, and why is Cruncher requesting v1? Clearly it's not over, Star Killer. Also, you were "crying" about it just the other day on icq. Then the next day all of a sudden you're sick of people crying about it, and you're attacking me for mentioning it? Does that really make sense to you?

And it certainly hasn't been over for years for me... I just came back in September, and I still don't understand all the consequences of v2. I've been learning gradually over the past few months.

Personally, I'd rather hear people "cry" about it than just have them disappear from trade wars. At least the criers are still playing and part of the community.




What's your point? That doesn't change the fact that he ruined trade wars.



Why are you emphasizing that ***I*** picked the server, like I did it on purpose or something??? I didn't see anyone else volunteering to organize this. I picked the server because last time, nobody picked a server and so the game didn't happen on time. How the hell was I supposed to know your ping would be 300 on that server? From what i remember, your ping is pretty high on any server.



So? Your response right now is to blow up. So I guess we're even. At least I had a good reason.

My comments about JP and Cruncher are not personal attacks; I'm commenting on facts and the results of their actions. Personal attacks are things like insults or attacks on a person's character.

The only thing vaguely resembling personal attack was when I said Cruncher "bitched" and complained to JP... I shouldn't have used the word bitched. But your post is just as personal when you imply I'm "crying". As a paying customer that bought TWGS in the v1 era, I have every right to complain.



I don't know what your problem is. Was Cruncher not the main person, aside from JP, responsible for v2? Is she not now asking for v1? My "personal attack" was justified.

Anyway, screw this... I'm done arguing about it, this is not fun anymore, so I'll just vote with my feet and go play some other game.