Wait, am I missing something here? Booger is complaining that the site is too pc, in a thread where we're being called out for being too permissive. Go figure...

Sticks and stones, mate. I was not the moderator during the incident- I've only just returned. I did state I would moderate the section if it was requested/required.

Regardless, if you have a particular issue with how the forum is run, you may want to address your concerns to John. I can't speak for him. He has my trust and respect, and he knows that he can count on myself and his moderators to do their role to the best of their abilities.

Ok, so it appears that we don't have a site-wide admin. Not a problem, I just didn't realize it. I thought it was something Thrawn was willing to do until we found someone to replace SG, and I haven't been pushing hard to find someone. But if Thrawn is not interested, I'll take the duty until someone steps up. I have no problem with that, just a misunderstanding.

Booger, take it as evidence that your premise is false that we aren't banning you for your comments. Like I said, the incident in question resulted from us NOT taking action against Helix for calling BigD a liar. On that grounds, how have we come off seeming fascist to you?

man, ya know? your right! i was faaaaar too smacky here. apologies to all who had to read such horrible things!

dude, this is supposed to be an 'open discussion'. im not holding you at fault for whoever said whatever, im making a point. tho i do disagree with your opinions as stated in my previous post.

JP, im not going to tell you how to run things. your game, your site, your money, blah blah blah. however, either one can smack some in open or they cant. if they can, fine. if they cant? fine. but since there is an attitude of 'oh no smack is awful' anything remotely smacky in open is gonna come to this.

so what if someone calls someone a liar, forum mod or no. since it happened in open you are in a box now. this wont be the last time we see this exact debate. what fun. cest la vie. imma stop now, before you DO ban me. its SO much easier to sit in the wings.

I've been doing it, but if you want to... by all means. I can go back to being a pain in the butt. Fascist fascist stinkybutt admins! hehe...

The thing isn't really about admin stuff, it's about site-wide moderation. Moderation is drawing a line in the sand over which posts are acceptable and which aren't. And that's about as thankless as a job gets.

Right, that's what I'm talking about, the site-wide moderator. I thought Thrawn was doing it. I'm working on clearing that up.

Booger, this is a problem in any forum, or any venue at all, I think. Debate and disagreement are fine, but keep it civil. Is it vague? Sure. But if someone crosses the line, we'll warn that person, and that's how you know.

You pretty much have to want to get banned from here to get banned. It hasn't happened often. But now and then someone becomes too disruptive and they have to be banned. It's not over a small infraction. It's over a trend in behavior.

I've often wonderered how/why you had the rank of ambassador when it seems you only like to talk smack.

Haven't heard much at all from you since the Smack Forum was "retired".

To understand the "ambassador" title you had to know SG. Basically, SG enjoyed causing trouble but couldn't cause too much himself as "admin." So he would find other troublemakers, like myself and booger, to do it for him. That way he could make trouble by proxy. It was our job to say all the stuff he couldn't.

plus my iwebs were out of service for a while, so i havent been on like i normally would have been.

read my posts... that might be a stretch tho. i try to help people when they ask a question and i know the answer.

Yeah, I suppose "ambassador" is a bit misleading. The title is meant for people who are veterans in the community and have shown a willingness to help people out when they have questions. I'm not looking for people to represent me in the forum.

But being an OFFICIAL representative of the site that is SUPPOSED to support the game does.

Time for you to decide where your want this game to go.

ha you guys don't know how good you have it.. when kemper was a moderator he was a dick. think he banned 3 or 4 of my accounts for petty crap

i believe a moderator should be able to say anything a regular user could, they are both human and entitled to their opinions.. the only reason this is getting blown out of proportion is because of their personal feud

Kemper was a MODERATOR?

Wow.

Yeah, I definitely give moderators a lot of freedom. If I fired a moderator every time there was a complaint against him/her, you'd all have been moderators by now. And fired.

A mod has to be pretty aggressive and abusive to be fired. I don't think it's ever happened. Unless that's what happened to Kemper?

Yeh, Harley was an admin and, more or less, the only active mod for years. He banned a lot of people for a lot of reasons. Cantankerous fellow, that one. I mean I guess Rick was still an admin too, but the tech contacts here always seem AFK most of the time. That's actually a problem we should solve, would be good to have a way to contact Eleq incase the site gets hacked again.

Didn't K3 just lose interest and leave? I know Traitor was a mod for like a week, and he got sick of it and left. Then we had that whole Vulcan/Earth/Zentock thing, then they added SG to the mix for like a month... then this site was born, then SG took over.

Who elevated Kemper? Was that Rick when he was getting too busy?

I never knew about Traitor either. I gave the list of lead moderators I knew about.

Now that I have the site in a place that I am comfortable with, I can handle the maintenance. I don't mind doing that. I just never could before because Eleq or Rick had set things up and I wasn't up to speed on the details. Vulcan actually ran it on his home server for awhile. Now it's on my own hosting service and I'm very familiar with all of the tools available to me there.