Stretch, haven't you gone away yet? You're still an idiot. If you don't understand what I was going on "diatribes" about, then you didn't read my posts clearly enough. Look at my previous post for two very relevant quotes. I am not and have never been in favor of adding the option that Xentropy wishes. I feel its unnecessary, but ultimately would do little harm to the game that I love. Therefore, I even wished Xentropy luck in getting that option added.

The (mutual I might add) rants were triggered by you actually. You entered a thread thats sole purpose was to tell script-bashers to shut up, quit whining, and quit blaming scripters for "ruining" the game. So obviously you decided to post in this thread and whine about how we've ruined the game. Nice. I might also point out that you were insulting and demeaning in your very first post in this thread, but I'm sure it wouldn't do any good.

I call it like I see it. You're an idiot. You have consistently accused me of behavior and stances that my own words belie. And of course, when I provide quotes of my own words to disprove your ever more wild accusations, you conveniently ignore them. Not surprising, really. You just couldn't be wrong about anything, could you?

Rexx, I'm not taking my anger out of Stretch, or demeaning myself. Some people are idiots. Stretch is one of them, by his own choice. He has repeatedly chosen to ignore what I say except to briefly scan my posts for nits to pick or positions to falsely portray. Even after all 5 pages, he has no idea what I was arguing for or why. So like I said, he's an idiot. Even the people that agree with him don't like him and feel the need to apologize for him. I'd say thats pretty telling.

I've read every word, not many have added anything relevent since page one I might add. You've went from attacking faceless and imaginary people, to targetting me as the representative of all who are out to get you. That's hardly the case. I don't blame you or anyone for ruining tradewars. Hell, I don't even think tradewars is ruined. So it is just a joke at this point when you start shrieking how I or others think you are evil or whatever paranoid accusation you wish to drum up.

My only problem at this point is when you say people should be able to play how they want to play, then in the exact same breathe say you don't want more options to be in tedit. It is impossible to reconcile these two ideas, without concluding you are a two tongued hypocrite who doesn't even believe your own words. So call me an idiot until you are blue in the face, but I am consistent in my stance, nor do I resort to petty personal attacks in last ditch desperation.

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I guess I was trying to be the optimist Psion, however futile attempting that was; hahaa! Stretch, Psion is only saying, the way I am understanding it that he is in support for players choosing how they play without any outside criticism or belittlement on how they choose to play or with what methods they use to play; as long as it does not violate the servers game rules of course. Psion is also saying that he personally prefers the way TW has been setup and feels that it does not need additional settings to enhance the game itself, the current settings can simply be used to change each game accordingly. He is also saying that people need to stop complaining about things that are truely irrelevant and instead play in games that are catered to your indiviual playing style.

These two aspects are different from one another and a person can be entitled to their own opinion on each. Also that same person can achieve this without being a hypocrite. For example me: I agree that players should be able to play how they want to play, according also to the servers game rules, (without others telling me im a this and that, whatever.) I also feel that TW needs to have more defined options implemented to allow the SysOp/GameOp greater control of each individual game. Tell me that makes me a hypocrite, and I will PDrop ya', oh dont worry I will not complain to you about all the fuel you made be burn-up in the process! [:D]

Rexx,

You are being reasonable, not hypocritical. Absolutists do not have that luxury because they don't actually believe in choice (even if it doesn't affect them).

Umm, sounded an awful lot like Rexx understands my position and basically agrees with me except on one point - he feels that some extra options are needed, and I believe that the game is already capable of being played in a low scripting manner. So.... if someone agrees with you about options, then they're reasonable, otherwise they're a hypocrite? LOL

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A foolish or stupid person.

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Sure, he understands what you are saying, but disagrees with you on the only major point to this discussion. Doesn't sound like much of an agreement at all.

And no they are only a hypocrite when they say they are for people playing how they wish to play and then be against any minor changes that allows them to play in that manner. There is plenty of evidence, which Xeno presented quite thoroughly, to dispel your assertion high level scripts can be controlled with the present TEDIT options. You are lying through your teeth when you suggest otherwise (you have consistently feigned ignorance when confronted on this issue, as a typical absolutist would do -- if you don't like the facts, don't acknowledge them). You're obviously smart guy and that's why no one is fooled by this insidious routine.

Not surprisingly, my debugger reports that execution is currently on the "for_each(personInArgument, GetLastWord);" line. [:P]

LMAO Very nice Xen What you have to realize though is that I'm only stringing this out because I don't like Stretch and its fun to annoy him You wouldn't think anything this easy would be fun, you know - the old fish in a barrel cliche - but it really really is

Stretch, just go away. Do you realize how you're embarassing yourself? I DON'T THINK ITS NECESSARY BUT I'M NOT AGAINST IT! Sheesh. I even wished Xentropy luck in his campaign to get the option added. Or did you miss that part when you were scanning my posts for nits to pick or accusations to fling? I guess you also missed that part when I re-quoted it to you. Idiot. And in case you never noticed, Xenotropy and I exchanged OPINIONS. He presented no hard evidence to suggest it was impossible and I presented no hard evidence to suggest it was. We shared past experiences and opinions, thats all. I even asked if there was a sysop willing to do a test game to find out. I'm not an absolutist by a long shot, but I'm absolutely sure that you're an idiot. Have a nice day!

PS-Actually, don't go away. Tons of people are getting a kick out of this, including me. You wouldn't believe how many ICQs I've gotten laughing about how I've handled you

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I agree with you Psion, but I do have an observation to make.

From what I have read in earlier posts, it looks like some people were taking lessons from SGO on posts, some of them took a while to read [:D][}:)][;)]

Sorry SGO, had to have a little fun, hope to hear from ya again.

Oh lord, don't bring SGO into this. I'm hoping he disappears for good.

If nothing else comes out of this at least the newbies got thier post amounts raised! (including me!) [:)]

Bethel

oh man Psion, your last post was a total KO, [B)] but it was still funny as heck!! Although now im going to have to buy some suspenders to hold my pants up or something, cause I just laughed my azz off!! Aww man, this is just great!

Ok lets just impose a bet that you two will remain in complete disagreement with one another even after the the new version of TW is released... and considered free of all bugs. hehee, as if right.

stretch btw.. i would clean u up whether i use scripts or whether i play with my feet manually..

Vader, don't you know by now, people never go away, they come back with new names....who is to say someone in this thread is not SGO?

BTW, SGO when you do read this, you still ok with me homeboy =)