Oh good, now you agree that there should be some configurable tedit options that address this issue. I'm glad you finally understand what that phrase actually means.

Sigh. You're an idiot. Did you read any of my posts for content, or merely scavenging for "ammo"? This is my last post. Please go away and don't come back.

Oh, so you still are of the opinion "people should play how they want to play" as long as there are no tedit options to help them to do so? Hypocrite to the bitter end, huh? I'm not surprised. I really thought for a second you had come around to something that made sense.

Ok, ok, lets put it to a vote, how many think that the next version of TW should also include a Boxing Ring on the StarDock, were players could just go to duke it out using animated ANSI's (or maybe The Pit style)...there could even be a money-pot were all the players could bet on the winner and setup odds... That would solve all the probs, and everybody comes out a winner, yeaa !! They could even use ol' Don King to promote the fights, he could fly up to all the players in a Garabage Scow Havoc, or something and annouce the fight time...and would even somehow manage to use complete sentences all using only one single letter of the alphabet [^]

You don’t get it do you Stretch, JP is working on new version that will somewhat solve your problems so your getting what you want and yes we would love you to have the options to configure your server whatever way you wish.

The problem is people like Psion and myself have is you accuse us of ruining the game, you call us abusers, compare us to extreme evils, you believe your preferred style of game play is the correct style, and you make up tall stories about some ubber scripts that don’t exist and never will, and generally spout off in an very uninformed manner. Maybe if you took the time to learn the other style of game play you would understand what we are saying. But your mind is closed and you have made a decision as to how it should be.

I play both styles I enjoy slow games and fast ones although there are different set of strategies used in each style I don’t feel either styles strategies are any less of a strategy then the others.

Hey RexxCrow, I like that idea. Wonder if we could put that in for a future addition to TW. I would love to see that, really bring people in. *LOL*

WOW was that tough to get through. After reading all the posts by Psion, stretch and xeno, the only thing i know is im a retard compared to them lol.. Darn yall are good at writing..
Anyways am i the only one who would quit playing twars immediatly if the changes take place that xeno and stretch would like? that sounds like a horrible way to play. Pdrops? PDROPS? you guys cant get around PDROPS???? learn how to write a macro for christs sakes..
BTW i will never even attempt to write a script.. it doesnt interest me but the public scripts are more than enough plus maybe a few little extras from some scripters.. they arent hard to get, trust me im not beloved in this community and i have gotten them so anyone can get them. So xeno and stretch, take me as the average player for an example, i know nothing about scripting and i can compete just fine. i cant believe u guys cant figure out how to beat a photon or pdrop script.. almost funny that as smart as you are u cant write a simple macro to hit a fig quickly and retreat and make them waste a ton of ore.. the speed and action along with the skill and strategy all make the game fun. you make it a slow boring chess match and ill walk immeditaly.

Heck yea !! That would be awsome, there you are PPTing or Coloing (or whatever) and then all of the sudden an ANSI of Don King pops up with him in his cute little pink ship, maybe with some funky 70's music, (Im a SuperPimp or something) and then he annouces the player's bouting and invites you to make a bet and place the odds on them... and then you race off to grab front row seats, cause ITS Fight Night!! Nicolas Cage could maybe be the reff and that "Lets GET READY TO RUMBLEEEE!!!!" guy could be the announcer. This would be the perfect introduction to include sound along with TW... (of course there might be copyright issues, but hey maybe those guys are TW fans too?) [;)]

quote:Originally posted by Stockton
Pdrops? PDROPS? you guys cant get around PDROPS???? learn how to write a macro for christs sakes..
i cant believe u guys cant figure out how to beat a photon or pdrop script.. almost funny that as smart as you are u cant write a simple macro to hit a fig quickly and retreat and make them waste a ton of ore..
What if they wait for you to pay the toll or destroy the fighter before pwarping adjacent and then photoning? Retreats would do nothing but waste your own turns, because they don't warp at hit, they wait until the payment/attack. With full ship delays, you are guaranteed to be in that sector for at least 2 seconds after paying/attacking, plenty of time for the script to get you. And before you say play without ship delays, reread my posts, ship delays are part of the point of my style of game.

quote:the speed and action along with the skill and strategy all make the game fun. you make it a slow boring chess match and ill walk immeditaly.
All opinion. And I don't expect everyone to enjoy the same types of games. That's why we need OPTIONS, not global permanent changes without a choice for anyone. Right now there are no choices to enforce MY style of game besides the honor system.

Ya i didnt read all of the posts and didnt know you guys played with ship delays.. blah.. we play two different games lets just leave it at that

quote:Originally posted by Stretch

Oh, so you still are of the opinion "people should play how they want to play" as long as there are no tedit options to help them to do so? Hypocrite to the bitter end, huh? I'm not surprised. I really thought for a second you had come around to something that made sense.

You're an idiot.
quote:Originally posted by Psion

If this change can be implemented, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. I just think you're fixing something that isn't broken. I firmly believe that it is possible to run the kind of game that you want without resorting to making changes to the game itself.
quote:Originally posted by Psion

I still don't think its a needed change, and I still think you have closed yourself off to the different level of strategy that exists in regular games, but those are certainly your choices. Best of luck getting your changes implemented (as long as they're options that can be disabled ).

If I had a fighter for time the word idiot was used in this thread, I would be one happy camper!! [;)]

quote:Originally posted by Xentropy
What if they wait for you to pay the toll or destroy the fighter before pwarping adjacent and then photoning? Retreats would do nothing but waste your own turns, because they don't warp at hit, they wait until the payment/attack. With full ship delays, you are guaranteed to be in that sector for at least 2 seconds after paying/attacking, plenty of time for the script to get you. And before you say play without ship delays, reread my posts, ship delays are part of the point of my style of game.

Retreats have the ship delay applied to them. However, if you kill the fighter and then xport out, it is instantaneous.

RexxCrow-

And its all coming from one guy who has to resort to name calling when he isn't trying to moralize over a game. Apparently, he has always been in agreement with the position of more options = better, so it makes one wonder how this thread got turned into 5 pages of diatribes, all almost exclusively written by the same one person who then says he's in agreement all along. Humorous to say the least.

Diatribe, 2 : a bitter and abusive speech or writing 3 : ironical or satirical criticism Whoowie, had to look that one up; a very appropriate word to use! I understand were you coming from and agree with you on many, many points, though I think there is a misunderstanding occuring between the both of you guys, Psion doesn't agree with you at the least and he is extremely upset that scripters are being blammed for the flaws that are inherent to the TradeWars game. I dont actually mean to sound like i am siding against you but TW has lots of improvements that can be made to it, that of which consists of including more user and SysOp preferences as well as a clearer understanding as to how those options alter the game, (currently most of which are unclear or offer little to no explanation to them.) The problem is that as much as we all love TW it is not a real money maker and cannot support a company, thus I imagine that JP probably works mostly on TW during his own time, (with little to no pay.) So us players are left alone to contend with these negative aspects, on our own! [V]

Psion, I feel is in the wrong for taking anger out on you and demeaning himself to namecalling, however i do understand his fustration and I hope that you do to; though would hope you are both able to come to an understanding and remain as some form of allies rather then bitter rivals. To end, I would like to hope future TW configurations are developed to allow a fully SysOp configurable environment that is adaptable to both scripter and non-scripter alike, and finally that as a result the TW fanbase will continue to grow most expeditiously.