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 Corp Killer, Nobody and Scorch 
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Sergeant Major

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I just finished killing these Jerks over at Coastgames. They had the nerve to come into the game use some bugs and declare themselves winners. WEll they made a fatal mistake. The didn't kill me and they didn't take all of our sectors so now they are dead. Nothing pisses me off more than cheaters. To cheat in a game and then arrogantly declare victory is just stupid. AND I JUST PROVED THAT!.

For all of you out there that run across these cheaters my advice to you is to kill them and get them out of your game before they ruin it for everyone. To all the SYSOPS out there don't let these assholes on your board.


Kiss Kiss,

The Bohemian

If You don't like it you can Kiss My Buttocks.


Thu May 09, 2002 10:35 am
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what type of bugs are they using? I just entered a game that these guys are in. can you email me so I know what to look for please.
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Lp


Thu May 09, 2002 10:58 am
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We don't quite know how ,but they have a fig bug they are using. They had no planets to speak of and no $$ when we reinvaded them....they were Blue and had no way of making mega $$ yet they came up with about 500k figs for an invasion. The planets we invaded had no way of producing what they needed in figs. They had no colo's to speak of on their planets either. The #'s just don't add up. Then we also found they made planets in alien space...guess they didn't know that bug had been fixed.
The main culprit is Corp Killer. He's the worst. Been banned from many sites already for cheating and hacking accounts.
Best advice is to advise your sysop of the possibility of these guys damaging the game and maybe the server. They don't deserve to play on any board!!!

Quit bitching...die with Class!

undead


Thu May 09, 2002 4:57 pm
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corp killer is worthless,
he needs to use bugs to compete
i suggest if you see him in a game kill him
then you dont have to listen to him heh

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Fri May 17, 2002 5:29 pm
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quote:
corp killer is worthless,
he needs to use bugs to compete
i suggest if you see him in a game kill him
then you dont have to listen to him heh

Prime Evil illusion
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Get Them Before They Get You!


Played against them before, heard their whinning, bi*ching and so on.... killem or dont play coz they are annoying, cheating or not.

I will respect you in the morning but I won't wake up till noon.


Sun May 19, 2002 7:39 pm
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You know i'm not one to enter these forums usually, nor am i one to do a whole lot of smack talk. Most of the older players know me, cause i've been playing on the net off and on since 1994. What they know about me is that though i do not win a lot of tournaments, i am a honest and civil/decent player. So now that thats established, and i'm sure mnay people would back me up, i'm going to portray the events that occured in the game in question. I'm going to include everything, especially a lot of details bohemian choose to not include.

As of late i've been going by the name "NoBoDy", so yes i am one of the one's she is flaming. Now onto "the rest of the story" as paul harvey says...

I entered game B at twgs.coastgames.com:2002 (the server in question) about 30 days into that game. At the time bohemian was corped with I believe noxious gas and undead. Just those 3 was it.

I played my usual semi-quiet way as a blue, building as quickly and efficiently as possible. First off i have to tell you a few of the stats for that game to enlighten the crowd on how easy it was to advance in that game:

X-wing - cost 875,000 creds - max holds 100 - 1 turn per warp
*This is the ship i used first 2 das to get a millinium falcon

Millinium Falcon ship - cost 2.55 mil creds (aprox.)
Turns to warp: 3 - holds: 250
This is the ship i used to colonize quickly via early transporters

Now about a week into the game (which is aproximatly when i did those invasions) I had had one org port buying for at least 4 days. I had a maxed Eden class planet (colo wise) which was aprox. 220,000 colo's which created figs at 5:1 , and a second eden that was half maxed on colo's in my main area.

Needless to say i had about 150-175k fighters at the end of the first week i played.

Now for the corporate killer thing. I never heard of the guy until 2 days after i started playing at coast games. I had corped with him at hardcoded game F cause i had no one else to corp with. Then i had him join me at coast games to help with colonizing. After a lot of flack from (you guessed it) bohemian, and a few rumors about cheating and hacking accounts over summer break i told her and undead (who were both online at the time, the night i had him corp with me) that i refused to just drop him from the team without asking him upfront about the allegations. So after a long talk i wrote a twmail to CK asking him about the matter. Now i have to add during this conversation bohemian made numerous threats (which i found absurd but i digress) about having a mob come and destroy my team because CK was on it. She also said that she was going to tell everyone in the forums here where HE (CK) was playing.

Anyway about 2 am that next morning i spoke to CK after i left his corp at hardcoded due to play style differences, i told him i just couldn't deal with his lack of structure in getting ahead in a game. After that i returned to coastgames and removed him from my corp there as well, in his millinium falcon at sector 1 while fedsafe. I did that because i do not just backstab anyone and kick em out of my corp and pod them.

Next the day before the invasion (give or take a day) I invited scorch onto my team for a multitude of reasons. I knew him from the old eclipse way back in the day, and i needed a little help if i was going to take on the ever growing bohemian corp (she added crazy horse to her team making it a total of 4:1 at that point).

Ok, so after ether probing all that night over and over with the 3.8 mil i'd just made off selling organics i finally found one of there corps bases. Remember i had 175k figs and the mill fal holds 150,000 figs at a time and has OFFENSIVE ODDS OF 4.0:1. So i photon in to take a look. (50k sector figs where there and i couldn't blow em or i'd go evil). No quasars in teh first area, some didly lvl 1's and 2's. Next sector was the same save one lvl 3. The back sector had i believe 2 quasars a H and a Eden. I photoned all the way back there and got the planet #, and saw that it had only 100k figs on it. Well lets figure this up. Planet figs defend at 3.0:1 the mill fal attacked at 4.0:1 .. so obviously i needed less then 100k figs to invade there main planet in that area. So i photoned in landed and took it.

They were all sitting on the planet with almost no armimemnts. Also there was 24 mil credits in the citedal. So i evicted them, and capped all there mill fal's (all of them were in one). After selling off all the mil fal's, plus all the extra ships in sector that was another 15 million credits, plus the 24 million that was on that planet. Thats 39 million credits, or at least another 175k figs to play with.

Next i invaded all the pidlys in the area. I find that GHP int (a evil player) is hiding on one of there middle planets (that makes 5 teammates for them). With the remaining cash we refigg'd ourselves, and set out to find the remaining member of there team. Scorch had been on another players team previously and he suggested we check there areas that boh's corp had taken. I did and found the last player (crazy horse) And photoned him/cap'd him. I took the stuff in that area. Then i took the last area that used to belong to scorch. Only i made a mistake and misfired a photon. I landed just after the count ended and lost 150k figs. I used the remaining 15k figs we had and invaded that last planet. That left us dry at that point with NO FIGS and NO CASH (thus explaining why we had nothing when her mega reinvaded).

Now i made another mistake as well. crazy horse logged in at 2am (we'd haz'd fed tho so he had no way out but was fed safe). I asked him if he wanted to go ahead and bang since game was over. He said he mailed bohemian and she agree'd so i emailed the twgs op. After that i just exited game considering it over. That was my fatal mistake, but it was not a bug lol.

There is a sidebar i wish to add here. First off , neither me nor scorch ever created planets in alien space. And i don't even believe i ever entered alien space, though i can't be for sure.

Bohemian claims she came back on her own with no corp help because i didn't find all her areas. Well i can't prove it, but i don't remember there being any citedals left in the universe after we capped em and i added em up and compared them to the v info list. But i won't argue that because i can't prove it. However when i came back in 2 days to see her handy work i was all ready to give her props for her reinvasion (even though she'd called for the rebang herself), until i noticed the logs and her corp size. It seems she had gone evil taking me out, so to fix her alignment noxious gas had gone evil and he had killed her/dropped him from the corp. Then strangely 2 more corpies appear on her roster of teammates. Just seems a bit odd to me that noxious would just quit to help her alignment and then she gets 2 new corpies in the midst of her reinvasion. Not to mention another player "xcheckx" also help them out as well. His planets were scattered in fed to remove haz, and he helped on the invasions in my logs i saw this. So that made a total of 6 corpies, 1 helper, and a dead guy she dropped.

Now she wants to go and claim that i cheated? LoL. Its bad enough when your a sore looser, but its really sad when you gotta be a sore winner. Now those that read all this and still have doughts feel free. But check out "twgs.coastgames.com:2002 GAME B" , or "www.coastgames.com" for all the stats i mentioned on those ships/planets its listed on both. What i did was fair, and feasable, bohemian obviously just doesn't understand how this game is played. Its played by skill, not by superior numbers.

I'm sorry this has been so long, but i refuse to have my good name tainted by someone who doesn't know what there talking about. And i'm also sorry that i misjudged Bohemian and Undead. They seemed like upstanding reputable civil tradewars players, but instead they went behind my back to spread vicious lies and rumors. Shame on them :)

Peace out all


Sat May 25, 2002 2:45 pm
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Some people are just too quick to accuse people of cheating when they see only one side of the facts. A good percent of the time, the accuser is only showing his/her ignorance.

Undead, do you really think these players should be banned based on your 'unbiased' opinion?

I find that laughable.

One of the three you accuse, I know nothing about
One of them, I wouldn't even play in the same game with
The third is a player I know to be an honest, quite capable player, who I would corp with any day any place.

Take care with your accusations.

Maggie


Sat May 25, 2002 10:28 pm
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Well I finally made it back here. Been awhile. In my ips I saw no instance of any of the players being dupes. As for Nobody there is no proof that he cheated and therefor leave it at that he has no reason to be banned. I must have proof. As for scorch I have never really talked much with him.

Now on to CK. If this is the same CK I have delt with before there may be an issue. Couple years back I was playing on a board with CK and a Jackson. They were quick to take out anyone(to me they seemed like good players). They then came over to Coastgames. At that time my brother both owned and operated the board and I had no access to the machine other than normal port 2002. A few days into the game Jackson had massive figs and was taking out everyone. To this day I can not reproduce what happened. Lots of creating planet. So I assume it was a bug that allowed him to transfer his fighters off his ship to the planet while logging off. Thus keeping his ship figs and the planet builds. I suspected something and that is when I had my brother call up all the logs.

Although at this time I am not sure CK had anything to do with the fighter issue but from whateverone tells me he uses bugs.

Jackson is the very first person we banned from our server and that was only becuase my brother was looking at TWGS and saw the same ip logging into accounts and trying to gain access to their stuff.

Long winded explanation I know. In the other games I have seen nobody play I have not seen anything like I did in B.

Jerry
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Tue May 28, 2002 5:18 pm
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This is too funny. Doesnt it make anyone wonder why the exact same people are ALWAYS the ones calling people cheaters. These morons log onto an unlimited and leave cannons off with 3 million figs on them and think that a corp of four with 24 hours of ssm cant have enough figs to invade planets with 3 mill figs and no cannons? Geez, undead, in 24 hours of unlimited you can make on average 1.4-1.7 BILLION creds. Multiply times four and how many figs is that?

Old Timer, please ignore any reference to cheating by these two jokers. They simply dont know the game so they think they got cheated everytime they get beat down. Grow up and be a tad more careful before calling people cheaters.

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Thu May 30, 2002 5:10 pm
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hey boner, you enjoying your day off from alienbase? :D hahahaha

sorry couldn't resist

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Thu May 30, 2002 5:20 pm
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Yeah, you guys kicked our butts last night. BUT, dont forget we know where you are.

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Thu May 30, 2002 8:46 pm
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I know Scorch, corped with him at Eclipse, he's OK. Played against Lord Talon, good player, and in my not so humble opinion, honest. So, no, I don't believe Bohemian.

Good to see you Lord Talon, it's been a while.

The Mad Hatter


Sat Jun 01, 2002 6:09 pm
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People make mistakes.

I used to accuss peeps of cheating for various reasons, when I was a newbie, this was due to LACK OF GAME KNOWLEDGE, which will be gained with time, however, better to corp with a TEACHER, someone that will share and explain what they know of the game. 50% of my GAME knowledge was TOLD to me by more experienced players.


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Sat Jun 01, 2002 8:44 pm
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I just wanted to say thanks to all of those that gave there word of support to me in here. The only reason i continue to play at coastgames is because i genuinly enjoy the server and its aggressive settings. Bohemians still at it though. She had taken the summer off, but rejoined the game i was in just to bitch at me some more about how i'm a cheater lol. She now claims the fig count jumped 1 million figs in one day (the day CK was on my team). It makes me laugh really, but its getting ridiculously sad. I believe that it is what was said by another reply. Bohemian and her crew are the poster team for coastgames and there used to winning there. I'd say they, but really she can't stand having someone be better then her so she has to make up ridiculous accusations. Right now i'm playing solo against her and undead in game B at coastgames. Names "Negative" .. anyone who wants feel free to pop by and check out my cheating ways (LOL) :) Love to hear from some old friends...

HAve a great one all...

And lastly.. i hate to see how many people she's going to accuse of cheating in the BOTE which her and undead are planning to play in. A lot of the players that will be in that game are of a higher calibur then I especially when there corped up red/blue. So lets see how the bitching goes as she keeps loosing pods in BOTE :)


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Sat Jun 15, 2002 11:00 pm
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I HAD to make a quick reply here....In the short time I have played the game, I have made it a point to play on as MANY servers as possible, AND with as many players as possible. I have made a lot of friends, AND a LOT of people hate me for my messed-up morals. BUT, morals or not, I HAVE to stand up for Bohemian and Undead! I can say many things in defence of their playing ability, their loyalty and their willingness to teach others instead of just messing them up with the first opportunity. No, im not gonna start arguing on all these points....but the fact that I am willing to post this message despite the possible reprecussions should be proof of how much I and many others respect these two players. I have come to think as these players as my TW mom and dad, and if they say someone is bloody cheating...I'd Darn well look into it. Besides, they ARE usually right about it...(RE:Spring Break Tourny)

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