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Sergeant Major

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Is it just me or would most people rather stab you in the back than come to you with the problem they think they have that involves you?

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Thu Apr 04, 2002 9:24 am
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Is it just me or would most people rather stab you in the back than come to you with the problem they think they have that involves you?


Sadly enough, sounds like real life to me.

Lisa M. Wilson
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Thu Apr 04, 2002 9:44 am
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what rave said....

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Thu Apr 04, 2002 12:29 pm
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what rave said....


Dang I'm good...

Lisa M. Wilson
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Thu Apr 04, 2002 12:44 pm
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is there a context for the original statement? But YES I wholehartedly agree with RAVE.

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Fri Apr 05, 2002 3:29 pm
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No original context. Just from a game outside of coastgames that I was helping with.

"If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny". Yoda To Luke.


Fri Apr 05, 2002 6:15 pm
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ahhh....coastgames....well dude, as far as I know. The reason u were booted from the corp was because u used up too many figs and didn't help with the colonizing at all. That, of course, is what I was told by my higher ups. I was asked as a member of the corp if I was ok with you being booted and I said yes. Not because I don't like u or your gameplay, but because I trust our other corpies. If they said u were doing this, then I must believe them. U are, however, a pretty decent player from what I could see. U have very good invasion skills and I learned alot from watching u.
Hope to see u in another game dude....
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Fri Apr 05, 2002 7:41 pm
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Just to clear things up and put them into perspective, the day before the new collies were put onto terra, I was photoned by someone inside our corp. That means I had 0 turns. By the time I logged on the next day I had less than 700 turns and atomicly fused my ship cause an alien took out the fig I was using for twarping. By the time it was all said and done, I had only 450 turns for putting collies on planets. By the time I was kicked off the team, I was only able to plant about 50k collies due to lack of turns and had only spent 90k of the 1.2 million figs we had. That was to create backup planets for the corp, since we did not have any. I think that most good players would agree that having atleast one sector as a backup would be a good idea. Bohemian and Undead somehow had the idea that I was taking more figs than that to use for personal sectors/personal uses. I was not and all the records show that. Jerry was able to confirm that as well. As far as Undeads attitude, I have no problems with him. He is a great guy. Bohemian on the other hand has compleately ignored all attempts by me to talk to her. I will admit though that I did write her a very nasty letter the day I was kicked out of the corp. I was just shocked that she would not come to me with the accusations that she had about me. (By the way, that is one of my biggest pet peeves. Not comming to me about problems you have about me. My second is being backstabbed by people who should be helping you out after saving your rearend on more than one occasion.) I can honestly say that I do not blame her for not talking to me, but for god sake, enough is enough. Its time for her to start acting like an adult, not a 5 year old child. If she has a problem with me then she needs to come to me with it. I just hope that for her sake that she isnt spreading lies about me behind my back.
Pheonix.

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Sat Apr 06, 2002 9:14 pm
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The Facts are THIS was the SECOND time you were removed from the Corp because you did not follow corp policies. You asked about making more planets and were told it was unnecessary. We already had 4 sectors started and did not need to spread our resources any farther. Then when you did make new planets you made them in a major space lane from sector 4 to a class O port in sector 54. You then wasted 109k figs futiley attempting to protect this new sector from all the Alien ships that kept going in that sector. You fused a 17 million ship when funds were already stretched and figs were already stretched because you refused to back off invading a planet when asked to do so. In that failed invasion you wasted 900k figs and left us almost defenseless. So when you fused that ship instead of taking one of the less costly already owned corp ships you skimmed 400k figs and sold them to buy another. Not once did your actions show any concern for the other members on the corp. You continually do whatever you want to do with little regard to what the corp needs or how your actions will effect the other members of the corp. You can sit in this forum all you want and make excuses but you were warned when we took you back and you were told what was expected of everyone on the corp and you chose to take a different path. In the end we as a group made a decision that you were too much of a liabilty to keep on the corp. I suggest next time you are on a Corp you put your efforts into taking care of you corp and then maybe you wouldn't find yourself out in the cold. You can be the best player in the world but that doesn't mean people are going to continually put up with your antics at the cost of their hard work.

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Sat Apr 06, 2002 9:49 pm
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So now your reduced to making up numbers then? Have you really had to lower yourself to doing stuff like that to make yourself look good? First off, we didnt have 400k figs to skim off of the planets. Second I used 100k figs, plus some money out of the citadel. I had asked everybody if that would be a problem. You, your hubby never responded. Your fault there. The rest of the corp never said they had a problem with it. Second it was 90k corp figs and 19k personal in that sector. There is a difference. If you do not have the kohonas to speak up then thats your problem. Third of all, when I was doing the invasion, Undead was there, so was cfposi. If he didnt want me to use that many figs, he could have said something and I would have stopped. After I ran out of turns he said to wait until he found out what you wanted to do. Third, it was 600k figs, not 900k. There is a difference. If you had a problem with what I was doing then you should had said something instead of ignoring me and just deciding to take care of it on your own. Fourth, I was doing trading when I had turns so that I could improve my ship with my own money so I wouldnt have to use any of your precious credits. Besides, it looks pretty bad on your part when you will decide to post something here and not talk to me at all. Are you afraid that I will say something you may not like? Fyi, bohemian, Undead has been using corp figs for allignment boosting on a daily basis. Atleast 50k on some days and as much as 125k from what I have seen. Its been what, 35 days since the game started? I dont see you pitching a fit over that and he has used 2x as many figs and resources as I have and he's still in the corp. You want to talk about being two-faced. By the way, I have tried repeatedly to get a hold of you and to no avail. Ignoring me, your problems and others is not going to make things go away.

"If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny". Yoda To Luke.


Sun Apr 07, 2002 11:40 am
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All i will say is that I trust the #'s that i was given by Bohemian. I also believe that the needs of the corp outweigh the needs of the one..I'm not gonna get into the smacktalking end of this..Rip all ya want but I stand by our actions.


Sun Apr 07, 2002 12:23 pm
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Dude, I was there the day u invaded cardassia to no avail. Bohemian wasn't even there and I was relaying her messages to u via ICQ. I said to stop the invasion cuz u 1) Had used to many turns 2) used too many figs and 3) had almost reached your kill max while mothing.

After I had said all this...next thing I know u are sending me a message saying u had attempted to invade again and failed. Dude, Like i said....u are awesome at invading planets....but Bohemian knew that we no longer had the resources to finish what we had started that day. So after that invasion, we had a hell of a time building up defences and it took us a long time to finally take cardassia. granted it would had been awesome to take it that day, but we couldn't and u didn't stop despite this.

Whatever, I know u know how to play TW....and u can be a really awesome player, but in these turn games u have to put the team first. That is all! It has nothing to do with personal vendetta's, no one was being childish, we ALL just looked at the numbers and agreed that your time was up.

No Hard feelings dude, we all make mistakes....I should know.
L8ter

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Sun Apr 07, 2002 4:57 pm
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That was back before all this crap started. Sides, nobody told me about what happened when you guys went in. All I had seen was the planet had been taken back, so I went in to get it back. Had I been told that the planet was not mobile, I would not have wasted corp resources taking back. Now leaving the extra 80k figs on the planet was my fault and not a good thing to do. I just didnt know if you guys wanted the collies off of it or not. :)

"If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny". Yoda To Luke.


Sun Apr 07, 2002 8:42 pm
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Whate'er.....whats done is done....I know that Im not holding anything against u and I would like to play with your again. I can't, however, speak for anyone else. Dude, u are a talented player, i think anyone could learn alot from u, just put the team at #1 and you #2 and u should be alright.

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Sun Apr 07, 2002 10:30 pm
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Thanks dude. I have nothing but respect for you and the whole team. You guys did what you had to do based on the facts and what had happened. I personally wish that things could have been different. Perhaps if I had acted differenty, then this would have never happened. I hope that the corp doesnt hold this against me despite what I have done.

"If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny". Yoda To Luke.


Mon Apr 08, 2002 9:06 am
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