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Is it possible to destroy Federation ships?
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Author:  michaelrayholt [ Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:43 am ]
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Admittedly, even when I played this game back in '94-'95, I didn't get very far. But now that I'm back and playing TW 2002 vers. 3.09, it doesn't seem like much has changed.
So, of course, the first thing I did was register a copy to get all the nifty options opened up on the game. This was all fine and dandy until I wanted to play Billy Bad*ss and blow up everything I could. It seems such an undertaking was either largely impossible or (as is likely) I still don't know what the f*ck I'm doing. Here are my dilemmas, if you will:
A) I can't use photon missiles, the game SAYS it's a Sysop-configurable option, but I can't see it (or haven't found it).
B) I can't destroy Ferrengis (most of whom I've created) because whenever I use the "A" command in a sector they're IN, the game reads something akin to "Duurrr, Nobody's here!" which makes me TWICE as mad, because (DEE DEE DEE!) I CAN SEE THEM!!!
and C) I don't even get the OPPORTUNITY to fire on Federation Starships (even if I've edited myself into one and TOTALLY equipped it) because with their fighters and an "Ion Cannon" that apparently MY Imperial Starship doesn't get to use, they just automatically blow the BeJesus outta me!!

Oh, and I have one of those b*stards sitting RIGHT OUTSIDE my home planet right now, too. How the F*CK do I get my Q-Laser-Plasma-Photon cannon or whatever to FIRE ON HIM?!?
Author:  Singularity [ Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:54 am ]
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No. It's not possible to kill a fed. That text you read is just an excuse for making 3 NPCs unkillable. You can have millions of ftrs, you'll still get podded.

Ferg... you should be able to attack them. Maybe something is wrong on your end. Just make sure they haven't moved first, they do move some.

Photons missiles, you have to set the duration to greater than 0 seconds. That'll enable them so you can buy them at dock.
Author:  Harley Nuss [ Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:35 am ]
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I wouldn't be surprised if the inability to attack ferrengi is a bug. 3.09 is extremely bug filled.
Author:  michaelrayholt [ Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:19 am ]
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Feds: Dang it. What good is being a Prime Evil if you can't kick the doodie out of everyone in the Universe? Is there any way to edit that or maybe even get rid of the Feds altogether (because you know they're just asking to be blown the h*ll up)?

Ferrengi: Wouldn't you know it? I go to all the trouble of programming in my favorite 20 movie villains and I can't even blast them because of a BUG! (Maybe it's time to seriously consider using 3.13. Will my registration for 3.09 even work on 3.13?)

Photon Missiles: Maybe another bug, because I've already set the duration greater than 0 seconds and every time I go to use the missiles, the game says NO. Figures.

Oh yeah - and I guess my planetary cannon won't work on the Feds, either, right?
Author:  Singularity [ Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:42 am ]
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Feds - They don't attack unless you attack them. And no, your cannon won't hurt them. They are completely immune to anything you would ever try to do, and I know of no way to tedit that. They're the police in the game, they work exclusively to insure fedsafe players remain fedsafe, and other fed laws.

Ferg: Didn't know 3.09 had those kindof bugs. Yuck. Yes your reg will work on 3.13, at the very worst... ask JP, he can update it for you if it won't.

Photons: Strange. Make sure the ship you're in carries them?
Author:  Vulcan [ Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:21 pm ]
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Yes, if your ship is photon intollerant, it won't carry them, look at the ship specs when edit mode on the ship you are in and see if the ship is set up to hold them, you can do this if you have the gold regged version.
Author:  Coke [ Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:13 pm ]
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The Feds are hard coded into the game and there is nothing you can do to destroy them. Best to just not do anything to make them blow you up. Only ways they do is by laying figs or mines in fed space (they take holds for that) or by when you are blue in a fed commish ship, blow up another blue, there by going red and keep warping around in the commish ship. Other then that, they are non existant in the game as far as I think
Author:  Traitor [ Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:06 pm ]
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You don't really want to attack them either. And I believe it isn't wise to photon them too. Haven't photted one in a long time tho, so I don't know if that's changed any.
Author:  Silence [ Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:45 pm ]
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But Feds also wont attack your figs either, so you can trap them.
Just drop figs around them, or force them into a dead end, then leave them there.
Author:  Zarkahn [ Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:48 pm ]
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Zy can't be trapped, The other 2 u used to be able to trap... not sure anymore
Seen no need to do it, Zy is the one that kicks ur butt, heh, wonder what happens if u tried to return that ship to dock like he asks.. does he still kill u? I always xported out.. or got blown up, If u go red in a fed ship., i recommend...DON'T MOVE....lol I have moved 1 secotr I know, but think the second sectot he nailed me...and he can do it at ur base, no matter ur planets, Q settings, or sector defenses.
Author:  Vulcan [ Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:57 am ]
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Capt. Z cheats, he uses T-Edits, :P j/k[:D]
Author:  Harley Nuss [ Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:49 am ]
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Your codes will work for 3.13, but you will need a code for the TWGS as well.
Author:  RexxCrow [ Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:10 am ]
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That happened to me before when I turned red in a Fed, I figured I would be safe if I T-Warped straight into my home sector surrounded by figs and the such... well guess who warps in as if they were a corpie and just smashes all my hopes and dreams to crap in about .005 of second. Well I don't remember which one it was exactly but, Darn them, Darn them to hell! hehe [xx(]
Author:  michaelrayholt [ Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:19 am ]
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Yeah, the ship I was carrying had photons. I had even at one time gone up against a Fed with an Interdictor Cruiser with at least TWICE what he had in fighters and shields, with the Interdictor on and enough Corbomite devices to blow up a small planet just in case I died. His fighters and "ion cannon" (which, again, apparently we can't have) blew me to smithereens, without so much as a scratch on him. Cheating b*stard!!
I hate the Feds. What fun is it being bad if you can't kill them? >:(
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