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[quote]Originally posted by Draconis

Well here goes. I tried to be helpful, I guess you didn't follow. Since I didn't like your tone later, and I am not having a great day, I guess I'll be a bit more direct.

Do you understand how the TWGS engine works? Or perhaps do you have you own new game engine. Let me help you.

You sound distrot, you afraid someone might have a greater understand of th6e game than you?

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Corp1 Has 4 Lvl5 Planets. Each with 300k figs each. In addition they have 100k sector figs. So assuming we call all do math, that is 1.3M figs. So to invade them I most have between 1.2M and 1.4M figs to attack.
So I take my figs, and move in. well I have to get through the 4M ore in the sector cannons...so....lets see...basic math. That is 1.333M figs of damage from 4M fuel.

Now, that would leave me 666k figs to invade the 1.3M figs? So to do this, it would require me to have a 6 offensive odds ship.

Now, perhaps they do not have sector cannons, and I have to atmosphere moth which eats more figs.

So I initially was trying to be helpful and show you some possible problems you might have. But you seem to have it all down. I noticed the 40k sectors....excellent! Umm...what version of TWGS runs that?
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Oh god your gullable. Ok try to keep up hot shot. If you had 1.4 mill total figs, and the only way you would fight someone else is entering thier sectors with planets ranking in the 2+ mill fighters your just talking nonsense. Who would do that? You? You need you find other ways to destroy things. If all fig counts match you have approval to start war with that corp. If you do something hidiously stupid like march into thier main sector and try to do it all at once all by your self, you deserve to get destroyed and laughed at.

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Well, I understand you must be a top notch player, and a kick Butt guy, who can invade anything. But, this may surprise you, but I am decent at math.
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You may be descent at math, but you have no common sense or invasion abilities. There is more than one way to skin a corp, you dont have to try to invade all at once, all of the time. Get a clue bro

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The above scenario becomes UNDEFEATABLE with the kind of edits you are having. As I said, I tried to be helpful, people offered suggestions to maybe look over what I said, but you seem to have it down pat, so good luck. I would LOVE to see the TWA file when you get finished.

Jhereg
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No, walking into someones home turf and trying to destroy them all alone is undefeatable. Destroying someonie in tw2002 with a stratagy is alot less undefeatable. Use your head bro.

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quote:Originally posted by Speed Demon

Say what??

I think you would be better off playing eve then trying to bang and run a game like the one you are describing.

http://www.eve-online.com/


Except i want to play tradewars, not eve. This is a mod just like adding planet mods, ship mods or stardock mods.. Its just a big bigger level. Trust me, iu know what im doing

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quote:Originally posted by Vader

OOOOHhhhh, 40k sector game. I wanna see that pulled off....*g*


oh me too bro, me too. I want to see if i can double wormholes. Im going to talk to the makers and see how much help i can get from them. I want a 60k+ game, but that is still up in the air untill i find out how far i can push the envolope. Oh And its also a unlimited turn, no photon, no game play fee, fully registered TWGS and TW2002 with Gold expantion. All these are offered at no cost to players.

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quote:Originally posted by Vash The Stampede

quote:Originally posted by Vader

OOOOHhhhh, 40k sector game. I wanna see that pulled off....*g*


oh me too bro, me too. I want to see if i can double wormholes. Im going to talk to the makers and see how much help i can get from them. I want a 60k+ game, but that is still up in the air untill i find out how far i can push the envolope. Oh And its also a unlimited turn, no photon, no game play fee, fully registered TWGS and TW2002 with Gold expantion. All these are offered at no cost to players.


I guess you missed Vader's sarcasm. Well, considering that the author is working on a new version, I doubt he will assist in it, but keep us up to speed. And OMG, Unlim? Wow, I will be interested to see how you do. The problem with unlim = unlim cash. And people get bored pretty quick with nothing to do afterawhile. But hey, good luck have the author redesign the game for you. Of course, what you are describing is called eve-online. Because that is not how the TWGS engine was written, eve-online was.

Jhereg


Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:34 pm
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ok, well... sigh... must keep clean.. ok
people have tried to help you
people have tried to show you math
i think that you have never played twars before
i KNOW you know very little about the game
the game in which you describe is impossibly gay
now i will dispute a few quotes from you
"Research has been made, and a 4 year run time is nothing, people can play for 2 months, 1 day, or 3 years. Its a game just like any other. And what is winning? Isn't there just as much in enjoying yourself? TW has given me alot of joy, and none of it ever came from winning a game."
name 5 people who would play this game. 5 isnt that many, thats only 1 corp. name them.
"Oh And its also a unlimited turn, no photon,"
no photons... yes, lets make it even MORE uninvadeable.
"No, it will not. You sound tense, are you afraid if you thought you were undefeatable there might be someone that will prove you wrong? Nothing is undefeatable. Everything is possible."
obviously you don't understand how the game works and/or you are horrible at math.
"You may be descent at math, but you have no common sense or invasion abilities. There is more than one way to skin a corp, you dont have to try to invade all at once, all of the time. Get a clue bro"
sigh, i'd put jhereg's knowledge of the game up against yours anyday "bro"
i cant find it, but you said something about "ranking levels" and such... well i used this thing i like to call common sense (check out kmart, you might find some there your size) and well it seems to me that your ranking system well.. wouldn't work. let alone make a universe larger than 20k. good luck with that. please post at http://www.twgs.org so we can continue this conversation.

Slim

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Nah, I'm an idiot. Everybody knows it. What is a photon anyway?

Jhereg


Sat Nov 06, 2004 7:16 pm
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quote:Originally posted by Slim Shady

ok, well... sigh... must keep clean.. ok
people have tried to help you
people have tried to show you math
i think that you have never played twars before
i KNOW you know very little about the game
the game in which you describe is impossibly gay
now i will dispute a few quotes from you
"Research has been made, and a 4 year run time is nothing, people can play for 2 months, 1 day, or 3 years. Its a game just like any other. And what is winning? Isn't there just as much in enjoying yourself? TW has given me alot of joy, and none of it ever came from winning a game."
name 5 people who would play this game. 5 isnt that many, thats only 1 corp. name them.
"Oh And its also a unlimited turn, no photon,"
no photons... yes, lets make it even MORE uninvadeable.
"No, it will not. You sound tense, are you afraid if you thought you were undefeatable there might be someone that will prove you wrong? Nothing is undefeatable. Everything is possible."
obviously you don't understand how the game works and/or you are horrible at math.
"You may be descent at math, but you have no common sense or invasion abilities. There is more than one way to skin a corp, you dont have to try to invade all at once, all of the time. Get a clue bro"
sigh, i'd put jhereg's knowledge of the game up against yours anyday "bro"
i cant find it, but you said something about "ranking levels" and such... well i used this thing i like to call common sense (check out kmart, you might find some there your size) and well it seems to me that your ranking system well.. wouldn't work. let alone make a universe larger than 20k. good luck with that. please post at http://www.twgs.org so we can continue this conversation.

Slim


Ok "buddy", first off, i'm not your "Bro" ok? Second, why are you so intimidated? Look, i dont need to tell you anything to prove my worth, i've been playing twars since i was 13, im 27 now. Your a funny guy you get all mad so im gonna stop talking to you. :) bye now

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quote:Originally posted by Draconis

Nah, I'm an idiot. Everybody knows it. What is a photon anyway?

Jhereg


Hehe, A photon you see, is this thing people use to cheeze thier way into sectors with planets. :P Ask Slim Shady about it, he seems to know cheez. lol

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Oh yah, that was that thing they put in because they are part of the game? Oh yah. Forgot. Sorry, kinda newb to all this. Anyway, as people have said, good luck. I kinda feel for people like you, because you remind me of SGO. You open your mouth, and show a lack of knowledge, and when people point it out, you claim they are intimidated. Slim may be Butt from time to time, but has been helping alot of newer players in TW for the last few months, so if nothing else, he has shown he has a fair knowledge of the game, and is trying to BRING something to the game. Could you keep us in the loop on your 40k+ sector game?

Jhereg


Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:25 am
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Okay, sure why not. I noticed you took the time to belittle Slim, but you didn't answer his questions (or most people's technical questions I have noticed). Will you be addressing any of the questions or technical issues?

Jhereg


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You sound distrot, you afraid someone might have a greater understand of th6e game than you?
AHHAHAHAHAH..OHAHAHAHAH...OHAHAHAHAH...(wipes eyes)

OMG

Trust me, iu know what im doing
AHAHAHAHAHAH..OHAHAHAHA... dear lord plz stop your killing me

Oh good post good post I needed a good laff tonight

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Your touchy and playing off and on maybe and casually, nobody knows you from what i get. You aren't taking suggestions your just saying you have a plan you said you'de appreciate feedback. You don't seem to be accepting it very well. And if you want people to play your game when you accompish it you better not be so rude to your potential audience, namely the people giving you feedback are curious about it so why alienate them?

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quote:Originally posted by Draconis

Oh yah, that was that thing they put in because they are part of the game? Oh yah. Forgot. Sorry, kinda newb to all this. Anyway, as people have said, good luck. I kinda feel for people like you, because you remind me of SGO. You open your mouth, and show a lack of knowledge, and when people point it out, you claim they are intimidated. Slim may be Butt from time to time, but has been helping alot of newer players in TW for the last few months, so if nothing else, he has shown he has a fair knowledge of the game, and is trying to BRING something to the game. Could you keep us in the loop on your 40k+ sector game?

Jhereg



What are you two bedbuddies? The guy bashed my idea, then started to rag on me. Look are you a total geek? Get a clue man its just a game, and if i didn't know what i was doing WHY would i possibly waste my time? You guys think your hot shots, but you look like some sore crybabies to me.

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quote:Originally posted by Draconis

Okay, sure why not. I noticed you took the time to belittle Slim, but you didn't answer his questions (or most people's technical questions I have noticed). Will you be addressing any of the questions or technical issues?

Jhereg


oh god your serious? im not gonna say the same thing 20 times cause a few of you are slow. Slim won the "You are starting to anoy, so leave me alone" award, and now you've joined him. I asked for feedback, not someones shrude attempts at belittling someone he really knows nothing about. So plz, keep your "intuitive" comments to yourselves.

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quote:Originally posted by Krimsonblade

You sound distrot, you afraid someone might have a greater understand of th6e game than you?
AHHAHAHAHAH..OHAHAHAHAH...OHAHAHAHAH...(wipes eyes)

OMG

Trust me, iu know what im doing
AHAHAHAHAHAH..OHAHAHAHA... dear lord plz stop your killing me

Oh good post good post I needed a good laff tonight


Is everyone here like you drac and slim? Obviously i am in the central ring of compensating morons trying to prove thier intelligence? hahahah thats funny

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