well i turned it off but i still can't connect to port 23 I did however connect to your two games running on port 2002 which i could not do before. though it did nothing for my sever I still can not telnet to my external ip on my router and get into tws
-John

You can set exceptions on the firewall and the other security programs to allow the telnet access out from your system and in on only the ports you set for it to allow too. Jeez I almost forgot about that, you have to also set exceptions for the security software, hehe, sorry.

John,

Click Here

for detailed, step by step instructions on how to open the ports you need to open.

nice Cernnunos thats the site I used to configure my port forwarding before I think i am just going to get an spliter and take my router out of the line because it is casuing so many issues. Once that is done then i think we will be golden. I just don't really have anyone to test it out right now since it is 10:31 lol my friends might think i am a little crazy calling them now.
A side question that is completely besides the point Thrawn how did you get a menu screen to look like that mine is all gray and lame.. lol Thanks again guys for all the help I probly would have smashed my computer and drowned it in a lake without you guys + I learned a load along the way lol.
-John

In the TWGS when you click Configure, go to Settings tab. There you can specify your Startup and Description screen. I have start.ans and desc.ans which are ansi screen files. When you create these files, they go in the directory your TWGS is located. You can create these using The Draw or Pablo Draw.

Thrawn rocks, that's pretty much it.
Hehe.

AZ- were you still not able to get it to work?
If you send me a PM with your # I will call you and walk you through it.

yeah it still won't work I sent you my number lol I got a hub from best buy and hoped that it would take my wireless router out of the loop but somthing else must be causing the issue.
-John
p.s and yes Thawns menu screen is amazing that must have taken quit a while to make.

If you need a ansi made for your TWGS let me know, I can make one for you. Anything from real simple to very detailed. Or you can use this program yourself to make your own, it is called PabloDraw, it is windows based and free, I used to use TheDraw, but it is DOS based and sometimes can be a pain to use, Pablo is windows based, easy and powerful.

Link:
http://pablo.etoxn.ca/PabloDraw.aspx