What are the normal prices for each, and how do you adjust them? One of my games has prices that seem odd. Any thoughts?

If your refering to twgs current version
(old dos versions same but on a slight differant schedual)
About every 28 days fig price goes from highist
to lowist.
And shield prices go from lowist to highist.
Oposite of each other.

I forget low price .. I think 110 to high of 290
I might need to recheck those , or someone can test this
on their server by ajusting the date to get those values.

Dos works the same , but on differant date starts & ends.
This was changed in twgs v3.12.23~25 If memory serves.

Hope this helps.

I seam to remember this from someplace as the fig and shield price data

Class 0 Ports Highest prices for Fighters = 239 Shields = 189
Lowest prices for Fighters = 160 Shields = 110

But i am getting old so the memory might be off just a bit. : )

Ok Zen that makes sense, it correlates to my findings, thus far. One thing I noticed as I double-checked the outcome was that the Holds would sometimes round up and down by 1 from the previously given figure, also this occurred for both the Fighters and Shields figures as well. So, there is a little bug or some slight randomness to the price routine. Additionally, the combined total of Fighters and Shields seems to always equal: 349.



--- 4-28 H/F/S 217/161/188
-1 4-29 H/F/S 199/160/189 -Start of Fighter low/Shield high-
-2 4-30 H/F/S 181/160/189
-3 5-01 H/F/S 166/160/189
-4 5-02 H/F/S 155/160/189
-5 5-03 H/F/S 150/160/189 -Start of Hold low to high-
-6 5-04 H/F/S 151/160/189
-7 5-05 H/F/S 158/160/189 -End of Fighter low/Shield high-
-8 5-06 H/F/S 171/161/188
-9 5-07 H/F/S 187/162/187
10 5-08 H/F/S 205/163/186
11 5-09 H/F/S 221/164/185
12 5-10 H/F/S 236/166/183
13 5-11 H/F/S 245/167/182
14 5-12 H/F/S 249/169/180 -Start of Hold high to low-
15 5-13 H/F/S 247/171/178
16 5-14 H/F/S 239/173/176
17 5-15 H/F/S 225/175/174
18 5-16 H/F/S 208/178/171
19 5-17 H/F/S 191/180/169
20 5-18 H/F/S 174/183/166
21 5-19 H/F/S 160/185/164
22 5-20 H/F/S 152/188/161
23 5-21 H/F/S 150/191/158 -Start of Hold low to high-
24 5-22 H/F/S 154/194/155
25 5-23 H/F/S 163/197/152
26 5-24 H/F/S 178/199/150
27 5-25 H/F/S 195/202/147
28 5-26 H/F/S 213/205/144
29 5-27 H/F/S 229/208/141
30 5-28 H/F/S 241/211/138
31 5-29 H/F/S 248/214/135
32 5-30 H/F/S 249/216/133 -Start of Hold high to low-
33 5-31 H/F/S 243/219/130
34 6-01 H/F/S 232/221/128
35 6-02 H/F/S 217/224/125
36 6-03 H/F/S 199/226/123
37 6-04 H/F/S 182/228/121
38 6-05 H/F/S 166/230/119
39 6-06 H/F/S 155/232/117
40 6-07 H/F/S 150/233/116 -Start of Hold low to high-
41 6-08 H/F/S 151/235/114
42 6-09 H/F/S 158/236/113
43 6-10 H/F/S 170/237/112
44 6-11 H/F/S 186/238/111
45 6-12 H/F/S 204/239/110 -Start of Fighter high/Shield low-
46 6-13 H/F/S 221/239/110
47 6-14 H/F/S 236/239/110
48 6-15 H/F/S 246/239/110
49 6-16 H/F/S 249/239/110 -Start of Hold high to low-
50 6-17 H/F/S 247/239/110
51 6-18 H/F/S 238/239/110 -End of Fighter high/Shield low-
--- 6-19 H/F/S 225/238/111
* Holds/Fighters/Shields

quote:Originally posted by RexxCrow

Ok Zen that makes sense, it correlates to my findings, thus far. One thing I noticed as I double-checked the outcome was that the Holds would sometimes round up and down by 1 from the previously given figure, also this occurred for both the Fighters and Shields figures as well. So, there is a little bug or some slight randomness to the price routine. Additionally, the combined total of Fighters and Shields seems to always equal: 349.



--- 4-28 H/F/S 217/161/188
-1 4-29 H/F/S 199/160/189 -Start of Fighter low/Shield high-
-2 4-30 H/F/S 181/160/189
-3 5-01 H/F/S 166/160/189
-4 5-02 H/F/S 155/160/189
-5 5-03 H/F/S 150/160/189 -Start of Hold low to high-
-6 5-04 H/F/S 151/160/189
-7 5-05 H/F/S 158/160/189 -End of Fighter low/Shield high-
-8 5-06 H/F/S 171/161/188
-9 5-07 H/F/S 187/162/187
10 5-08 H/F/S 205/163/186
11 5-09 H/F/S 221/164/185
12 5-10 H/F/S 236/166/183
13 5-11 H/F/S 245/167/182
14 5-12 H/F/S 249/169/180 -Start of Hold high to low-
15 5-13 H/F/S 247/171/178
16 5-14 H/F/S 239/173/176
17 5-15 H/F/S 225/175/174
18 5-16 H/F/S 208/178/171
19 5-17 H/F/S 191/180/169
20 5-18 H/F/S 174/183/166
21 5-19 H/F/S 160/185/164
22 5-20 H/F/S 152/188/161
23 5-21 H/F/S 150/191/158 -Start of Hold low to high-
24 5-22 H/F/S 154/194/155
25 5-23 H/F/S 163/197/152
26 5-24 H/F/S 178/199/150
27 5-25 H/F/S 195/202/147
28 5-26 H/F/S 213/205/144
29 5-27 H/F/S 229/208/141
30 5-28 H/F/S 241/211/138
31 5-29 H/F/S 248/214/135
32 5-30 H/F/S 249/216/133 -Start of Hold high to low-
33 5-31 H/F/S 243/219/130
34 6-01 H/F/S 232/221/128
35 6-02 H/F/S 217/224/125
36 6-03 H/F/S 199/226/123
37 6-04 H/F/S 182/228/121
38 6-05 H/F/S 166/230/119
39 6-06 H/F/S 155/232/117
40 6-07 H/F/S 150/233/116 -Start of Hold low to high-
41 6-08 H/F/S 151/235/114
42 6-09 H/F/S 158/236/113
43 6-10 H/F/S 170/237/112
44 6-11 H/F/S 186/238/111
45 6-12 H/F/S 204/239/110 -Start of Fighter high/Shield low-
46 6-13 H/F/S 221/239/110
47 6-14 H/F/S 236/239/110
48 6-15 H/F/S 246/239/110
49 6-16 H/F/S 249/239/110 -Start of Hold high to low-
50 6-17 H/F/S 247/239/110
51 6-18 H/F/S 238/239/110 -End of Fighter high/Shield low-
--- 6-19 H/F/S 225/238/111
* Holds/Fighters/Shields


you know you can just goto grimmytrader's underground tool's and he has a fig pricer that can give you the price on any day.. just seems easyer

Very well done [:)]

Answered and showed work .. add that to the glossery [;)]

I had not noted the randon jumps , I thought it was more of a smooth 2-3 days increase and decrease to acure.
But since the work is shown .. thats the proof I need.

Again .. nice job to arive at that answer [:P]

Wow. Thanks PPL.

Here is a quick sum up of all the information I have compiled. I don't know how relevant any of this actually is, as I still have no idea how the formula works, (I thought it was going to be a easy, instead I found my stuck on stupid! [xx(])

--------F&S:--Sum always: 349
---=99 =79 =79 Difference between F/S and H is: 20; difference between S & F and H is: 59.
H 249 239 189
L 150 160 110
----H---F---S


Holds cycle every 9 days.
F/S cycles every (45?) or (79?) days?
4.6 cycles (79) per 365
8.1 cycles (45) per 365

1
Jan 31
Feb 28
March 31
T: 90 Days
2
April 30
May 31
June 30
T: 91 Days
3
July 31
Aug 31
Sept 30
T: 92 Days
4
Oct 31
Nov 30
Dec 31
T: 92 Days

quote:Originally posted by RexxCrow

Here is a quick sum up of all the information I have compiled. I don't know how relevant any of this actually is, as I still have no idea how the formula works, (I thought it was going to be a easy, instead I found my stuck on stupid! [xx(])

--------F&S:--Sum always: 349
---=99 =79 =79 Difference between F/S and H is: 20; difference between S & F and H is: 59.
H 249 239 189
L 150 160 110
----H---F---S


Holds cycle every 9 days.
F/S cycles every (45?) or (79?) days?
4.6 cycles (79) per 365
8.1 cycles (45) per 365

1
Jan 31
Feb 28
March 31
T: 90 Days
2
April 30
May 31
June 30
T: 91 Days
3
July 31
Aug 31
Sept 30
T: 92 Days
4
Oct 31
Nov 30
Dec 31
T: 92 Days


Maybe looking at what you got .. its a 45-46 day cycle
That is why it breaks down to 2 cycles in a 90 day period.
As you have noticed.

Anyways alot mote info then I know before [:)]

quote:Originally posted by RexxCrow

Here is a quick sum up of all the information I have compiled. I don't know how relevant any of this actually is, as I still have no idea how the formula works, (I thought it was going to be a easy, instead I found my stuck on stupid! [xx(])

--------F&S:--Sum always: 349
---=99 =79 =79 Difference between F/S and H is: 20; difference between S & F and H is: 59.
H 249 239 189
L 150 160 110
----H---F---S


Holds cycle every 9 days.
F/S cycles every (45?) or (79?) days?
4.6 cycles (79) per 365
8.1 cycles (45) per 365

1
Jan 31
Feb 28
March 31
T: 90 Days
2
April 30
May 31
June 30
T: 91 Days
3
July 31
Aug 31
Sept 30
T: 92 Days
4
Oct 31
Nov 30
Dec 31
T: 92 Days


Input your values into Excel and graph it and you will see a sine wave I believe. I have never been very good with math of this type, but the data seems to make a nice wave.

               / Promethius / Enigma / Wolfen /

"A man who has no skills can be taught, a man who has no honor has nothing."

I have been tweaking around with this and have noted a few things, which might be useful if anybody has any good ideas or experience working with things like this? I think I am on to something, but am still not really sure? I am thinking maybe several more cycles would be needed to determine a pattern through “extensive” testing. [:P]

---------H / F / S
-----1 199/160/189 -Start of Fighter low/Shield high- (Start Day: 4/29/2006)
-----2 181/160/189
-----3 166/160/189
-----4 155/160/189
-----5 150/160/189 -Start of Hold low to high-
-----6 151/160/189
-----7 158/160/189 -End of Fighter low/Shield high-
---1 2 171/161/188
---2 3 187/162/187
---3 4 205/163/186
---4 5 221/164/185 – by 1
-----6 236/166/183
-----7 245/167/182 - by 1
-----8 249/169/180 -Start of Hold high to low- - by 1
-----9 247/171/178 – by 1
----10 239/173/176 – by 1
--- 11 225/175/174 – by 2
--- 12 208/178/171 – by 1
--- 13 191/180/169 – by 2
--- 14 174/183/166 – by 1
--- 15 160/185/164 – by 2
--- 16 152/188/161 – by 2
--- 17 150/191/158 -Start of Hold low to high- - by 2
--- 18 154/194/155 – by 2
--- 19 163/197/152 - by 1
--- 20 178/199/150 - by 2---
--- 21 195/202/147 - by 2
--- 22 213/205/144 - by 2
--- 23 229/208/141 - by 2
--- 24 241/211/138 - by 2
--- 25 248/214/135 - by 1
--- 26 249/216/133 -Start of Hold high to low- - by 2
--- 27 243/219/130 - by 1
--- 28 232/221/128 - by 2
--- 29 217/224/125 - by 1
--- 30 199/226/123 - by 1
--- 31 182/228/121 - by 1
--- 32 166/230/119 - by 1
--- 33 155/232/117
--- 34 150/233/116 -Start of Hold low to high- - 1
--1 35 151/235/114
--2 36 158/236/113
--3 37 170/237/112
--4 38 186/238/111
--- 39 204/239/110 -Start of Fighter high/Shield low-
---- 2 221/239/110
---- 3 236/239/110
---- 4 246/239/110
---- 5 249/239/110 -Start of Hold high to low-
---- 6 247/239/110
---- 7 238/239/110 -End of Fighter high/Shield low- (End Day: 6/18/2006)* Holds/Fighters/Shields


Notes
* 51 total days in cycle: (51-14) = 37 days; not including the 7-day still price at the start and end of each cycle a total of 14-days.
** 37-8 = 29; not including the 8-flowing price days at the star and end of the cycle after and before the high/low prices begin each for 7-days.
*** This leaving 29-total days of 0-2 credit price changes, exactly one month, although the cycles do not correlate along with the months.
**** Working from the top and the bottom meeting in the middle there is almost a perfect pattern; the break is highlighted above in red right in the middle where they meet, following as:

Down - Up
---1 - 1
---0 - 0
---1 - 1
---1 - 1
---1 - 1
---1 - 1
---2 - 2
---1 - 1
---2 - 2
---1 - 1
---2 - 2
---2 - 2
---2 - 2
---2 - 2
--- 1 - 2

NOTE - Also when you do: 197-160 = 37 and 189-152 = 37; you will notice 37 is the number of days in the cycle however, when you do the bottom half 239-199 = 40 and 150 – 110 = 40. Thus, not sure how much relevance this has, if any?